Must control the RAGE!!!

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sts9fan

Must control the RAGE!!!
« on: 21 Oct 2010, 04:48 pm »
Yesterday I had a crappy day at work.  One thing that always makes me feel better is to work on a project.  I am nearly done with a little set of fostex monitors using the FE103en.  I just need to wire them up, mount the crossover, attach the driver and glue on the side.  Last night I wire the first one up, hook it to my test system to check it out before closing it up.  Everything sounds great.  Then I head back to the work bench to screw in the driver.  As usual I am rushing, the screwdriver slips and destroys the driver.  Oh joy.  Of course they are out of stock at Madisound.  My new rule is to cover the driver with a thin board when attaching.  I guess I will start the next project while I wait for the next batch to arrive at madisound.
Good times

Kris 

srb

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #1 on: 21 Oct 2010, 05:03 pm »
Then I head back to the work bench to screw in the driver.  As usual I am rushing, the screwdriver slips and destroys the driver.

Something I like to do is swap out standard phillips head screws for hex head screws.
 
Steve

sts9fan

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #2 on: 21 Oct 2010, 05:12 pm »
That would do it.  Or I can just slow the ^#%@&@ down. 

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Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #3 on: 21 Oct 2010, 05:21 pm »
Option 2 would be cheaper, and more logical.

You should've been sitting with me the day I was installing the Skiing Ninja replacement xovers in my L main, and pulled 2 wires free of the inductor, at the ribbon/tape end! To say I cursed was an understatement.

Needless to say, I worked much slower when installing the xover in the R main. And I let a week pass.

And I made sure to do it early in the day when I was alert.

wushuliu

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #4 on: 21 Oct 2010, 09:05 pm »
That would do it.  Or I can just slow the ^#%@&@ down.

Sorry to hear that man. I understand. I am always moving/thinking too fast w/ my projects and I have a mortal fear of doing the same when messing w/ speakers to the point where I force myself to take deep breaths for a few secs and then *try* to take my time.

Hope today goes better.

JohnR

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #5 on: 22 Oct 2010, 01:33 am »
Ouch! I've not managed to do that yet but the hex head screws sound like a good idea.

Johnny2Bad

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #6 on: 10 Nov 2010, 04:52 am »
If you're going to substitute a positive drive fastener (Hex head, Robertson/Scrulox, etc) keep in mind the torque you apply to the fastener. Positive drive fasteners will allow you to over-torque the assembly. Slotted, JIS, or Phillips head screws are deliberately designed to cam out when you apply too much torque.


The JIS fastener looks broadly like a Phillips head, but is different and you won't be able to apply the correct torque if you use the wrong driver. Few people actually have the JIS drivers in North America but it's worth the investment if you disassemble anything. Even more so that applies to slotted drivers, where there are ... I dunno ... maybe a thousand different drivers ...  to fit specific slotted screw sizes. They were still very commonly used in manufactured products in the UK until the Metric System saved us from them (don't ever say the Metric System didn't do anything for America ...). The JIS (Japan Industrial Standard) is often found in electronics, but more consistently in Cameras, laptops, etc.


If you're assembling speakers or cabinets by hand, a very handy thing to have around is a bar of soap (Ivory, etc). Simply drag the last few threads of the screw over the soap bar before you start assembly ... you don't need much so if practically any amount sticks, you're good to go. You can dampen the bar a bit if you want, but dry is OK too. It will significantly reduce the friction and the assembly will tighten up quite nicely. You'll have to insure there's no residue on the head of the screw or the wood if you intend to paint, etc.

Ericus Rex

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #7 on: 10 Nov 2010, 01:17 pm »
Good info!

sts9fan

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #8 on: 10 Nov 2010, 01:53 pm »
I was finally able to get the driver.  Should be here today.  Must go slow!

MaxCast

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #9 on: 10 Nov 2010, 02:19 pm »
Don't drop the soap.  :icon_lol:

Wind Chaser

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #10 on: 10 Nov 2010, 02:38 pm »
Don't drop the soap.  :icon_lol:

 :scratch:  Wouldn't that be the least of his concerns?

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Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #11 on: 11 Nov 2010, 06:36 am »
I hate it when that happens. For a long time now, i put my other hand in the sacrificial position and always hand tighten. I also use brass robertson screws. You have to be careful about overtorquing them because if you do the head snaps off.

dave

sts9fan

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #12 on: 11 Nov 2010, 01:43 pm »
New driver in place!  Now all I need to do is glue the sides on and I am cooking.  That's exactly my new technique Dave.  One hand basically over the driver almost touchinbg the screw. 

Johnny2Bad

Re: Must control the RAGE!!!
« Reply #13 on: 11 Nov 2010, 09:56 pm »
... For a long time now, i put my other hand in the sacrificial position and always hand tighten. ...
dave


RE: "sacrificial position"


That is a near-perfect description. Or, as my foreman once said ... "Stop bleeding on the facia!"