Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?

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cloudbaseracer

Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« on: 28 Sep 2010, 03:25 am »
I see a lot of talk on this site about the Tranquility and the Wyred 4 Sound DAC's but not much on the Benchmark.  I have read nothing but exceptional reviews from many different magazines and this prompts me to look into it.  I do not currently have a pre-amp or DAC so it is intriguing to me that I can get both in such a modestly priced system that seems to be stellar by all accounts.

So....

Are there any negatives that I should consider with this unit? 

Why would I choose the tranquility or Wyred over the Benchmark?

Thanks,

James

denjo

Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #1 on: 28 Sep 2010, 10:30 am »
The Tranquility cannot be used as a preamp but the W4S DAC-2 and Benchmark DAC1 HDR can. Good question! I wonder why Benchmark seems to get side-stepped by audiophiles while many professionals use it for recording purposes.

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Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #2 on: 28 Sep 2010, 02:48 pm »
The Benchmark is not side stepped by audiophiles.  Plenty bought and sold every day by discerning 2-channel enthusiasts, just check out Audiogon.

To some people, the Benchmark is slightly edgy, a little thin sounding, somewhat clinical, which drives dissatisfaction long term and leads them to say that it isn't very musical (whatever that means to you).

For others, it's quite good.  And all they will ever want.

Other points:

I doubt the HDR as a preamp is much to write home about.

The headphone outputs on the regular DAC is so harsh that listening through headphones shreds my ears in less than a minute.

The USB implementation is known to be inferior to SPDIF direct.

Despite their claims of being jitter immune, there was considerable improvement when I used the Empirical Audio Off Ramp.  Before the Off Ramp, I could not listen in my system for more than 15 minutes without listener fatigue.

Having owned one, I think it's a great value so long as you aren't easily affected by listener fatigue.  Even if you are, system synergy may play a bigger part.  If you are listening to, for example, a warm, lush Leben then the Benchmark may be just what the doctor ordered.



cloudbaseracer

Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #3 on: 28 Sep 2010, 03:08 pm »
Currently I am only interested in using the SPDIF connections because I have heard of issues with USB. 

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Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #4 on: 28 Sep 2010, 03:10 pm »
What does the rest of your system look like and what are you currently using as a source?

Mariusz

Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #5 on: 28 Sep 2010, 04:55 pm »
Nothing should stop you from trying out gear that you feel might be right for you.  Without burning your fingers ones or twice, how will you know what your taste is like.  If you are not too familiar with dedicated DACs, I would advise to buy "used" at lowest price. 

As to Benchmark DAC & sound - it's a matter of a preferences and associated gear.  Personally, that DAC is not my cup of tea.  YMMV

Mariusz

cloudbaseracer

Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #6 on: 29 Sep 2010, 03:16 am »
What does the rest of your system look like and what are you currently using as a source?

Emerald Physics CS2
Sqeezbox Touch
Berhinger modified for all digital processing and output with 3x SPDIF board
(2) Panasonic SA-XR 700 running all digital

I also have a cheap INDAY switcher that I am sure is crap but I need some way to select inputs.

I am looking to change probably everything in my system except for the Squeezebox Touch. I plan on starting a few more threads on some of my other decision pieces.  Currently this looks like:

GedLee Abbey (maybe Abbey +)
4 subs of some sort (as Geddes suggests)
Benchmark HDR DAC1 or similar DAC that can be used as a pre-amp
Wyred 4 Sound multi-channel amp or Sunfire (used) or ????? Really open on the amp.


Another option is to skip the DAC and amp and get the NAD M2 and let it do all the processing.  Of course I would have to find a way to power the subs with additional power if I went this way.

Really about the only thing I am set on would be the Abbey's as they have awesome reviews from every single person that has experienced them.   I hope to hear them soon.

My challenge is my room which is absolutely huge at 30' x 41' with ceilings going from 11' to 18'.  It is an old converted church and I believe is hard to get to the sound great.  The CS2's sound great but they just cannot fill this room so I am searching for more.

Thanks,

James

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Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #7 on: 29 Sep 2010, 04:52 am »
cloudbaseracer....
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My challenge is my room which is absolutely huge at 30' x 41' with ceilings going from 11' to 18'.  It is an old converted church and I believe is hard to get to the sound great.

I remember your photos......how did it turn out....thanks. :thumb:

denjo

Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #8 on: 29 Sep 2010, 10:30 am »
Awesome to stay in a renovated church! The acoustics must be quite good so even a modest system should sound quite good!

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Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #9 on: 29 Sep 2010, 11:03 am »
Awesome space (potentially). Please post some pics when the renovations are complete. I drive by an empty church daily and wonder what it would be like to renovate it for a home.

cloudbaseracer

Re: Why Not A Benchmark DAC1 HDR?
« Reply #10 on: 29 Sep 2010, 10:43 pm »
Guys,

Just started a new thread and it has some pictures........

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=86356.new#new

Thanks,

James