[hifiaudio3]

But when I select the files (with the 96khz / 6 channel or the 2 channel 192khz  -  from Best of REM dvd-a)    the encoder just flies through the tracks and gives me 4kb files...  what could I be doing wrong?

[ted_b]

Hmm...their website certainly reads like it supports protected MLP, etc now.  I'll have to download the update and report back. 

[hifiaudio3]

I ended up using DVD-audio explorer and it worked like a charm to extract the songs to WAV and FLAC...  except...  my Denon receiver (avr-5308) that I use to stream FLAC from the computer doesnt seem to like these high res FLAC files...  I get sound output,  but it is seemingly random output and seems almost like its playing in slow motion..  very drawn out sounds that dont sound anything like the real song...  i will keep messing with it.

[ted_b]

Sounds like the word clock has not been changed/synched to the new 24/xx resolution and bit depth..

[BPT]

I updated my old Extractor to the new version and ripped a Blue Man DVD-A at 24/96 and it worked great.
Chris H.

[hifiaudio3]

Sounds like the word clock has not been changed/synched to the new 24/xx resolution and bit depth..

is that something I have the ability to change / fix?

[ted_b]

Your computer would need to do that.  Some HiREz (greater than 16/44) FLAC decoders have a bug (SqueezeServer did for almost a year) that causes things like this.  Try a different codec (WAV, AIFF,e tc.).

[hifiaudio3]

ugh ...  I guess its just some sort of incompatibility with the receiver.  Even ripping it to a 192khz 24bit wav produces the same messed up  "slow motion"  sound.  I guess the receiver can take regular FLAC but not high resolution.

Funny..  it recognizes 192khz PCM just fine coming off a dvd-a player.

[BPT]

Do your other hi-rez tunes play OK or is this your first attampt at playing hi-rez from your computer?

[hifiaudio3]

This is the first attemp at playing dvd-a high rez .. . but it plays fine if i play it back on the computer itself,  and it of course plays fine going from the dvd-a player out to the receiver,  but not if I try to stream it through the receiver's DLNA server from the computer,  or if I put the file on a USB stick and connect that directly to the receiver.

[KiwiBobs]

I downloaded the latest version and was able to rip a DVD-Audio containing MLP 48/24 and a Chesky DVD-V containing LPCM 96/24.

One bug/quirk was that when if you specify the sample rate to be the same as the source then the ripped file is the same sample rate. But if the source is 96Khz and you specify 96Khz (instead of "same as source") you end up with 88.2 Khz.

I have not used DVD Audio Explorer but from reading the manual, DVD Audio Extractor seems much simpler. I was simply presented with my 10 tracks and then next dialog box, I selected the sample rate, bit depth and number of channels.

[KiwiBobs]

Since DVD Audio Extractor does not present you with multiple titles that appear on a DVD-Audio disk, I wondered what is automatically chosen for you.

So I re-ripped two DVD-Audio disks with DVDAExplorer which allowed me to select the 6 Channel or Stereo title.

My first comparison was R.E.M Out Of Time. Big difference in sound quality. From the comparison I can tell DVD Audio Extractor had extracted the 6 channel and converts it to Stereo. Selecting the Stereo title using DVDAExplorer gave me a much better sounding mix and resolution.

My next comparison was Graham Nash Songs For Survivors which contains a SMART embedded two channel. Same result much better audio quality from DVDAExplorer.

I then used foobar to playback the Multi-Channel R.E.M from the DVD itself using the foo_input_dvda.dll plug-in and compared this to the DVD Audio Extractor rip. Same mix but the foobar playback was much higher quality. You could tell instantly.

I am now using DVDAExplorer for any DVD-Audio disks. Has any compared the DVDAExplorer rip to playback on a DVD-Audio player?


I just hope DVD Audio Extractor is not degrading the DVD-V disks in a similar manner. Has anyone compared the DVD Audio Extractor rip to playback on a DVD player?

[ted_b]

Since DVD Audio Extractor does not present you with multiple titles that appear on a DVD-Audio disk, I wondered what is automatically chosen for you.

So I re-ripped two DVD-Audio disks with DVDAExplorer which allowed me to select the 6 Channel or Stereo title.

My first comparison was R.E.M Out Of Time. Big difference in sound quality. DVD Audio Extractor extracts the 6 channel and converts it to Stereo. Selecting the Stereo title using DVD Audio Extractor gave me a much better stereo mix and resolution.

My next comparison was Graham Nash Songs For Survivors which contains a SMART embedded two channel. Again much better audio quality from DVDAExplorer.

I then used foobar to playback the Multi-Channel R.E.M and compared this to the DVD Audio Extractor rip. Same mix but the foobar playback was much higher quality. You could tell instantly.

I am now using DVDAExplorer for any DVD-Audio disks. Has any compared the DVDAExplorer rip to playack on a DVD-Audio player?


I just hope DVD Audio Extractor is not degrading the DVD-V disks in a similar manner. Has any compared the DVD Audio Extractor rip to playack on a DVD player?

I'm confused by your posts.  For example, in the case of the REM examples you reference he same software in both examples.  You also reference foobar and yet don't state which is "the foobar playback" source?  The links and comparisons are too confusing.

Net/net, I use DVDAExpplorer for all that is DVD-A (unless simply making a DVD-A copy "iso" image...then I use DVDFab7..much easier and much more compatible with MLP (i.e doesn't require downrezing like HD Audio Solo).  DVDFab7 is also good for DTS rips.

When ripping from DVD-V, then DVD Audio Extractor is the software I use. 

Tutorials are in the stickies.

[KiwiBobs]

Sorry for the confusion. I updated my post. I hope that is clearer.

Bottom line: Follow Ted's stickies for the best sound quality.