A couple of days a go I said I could live with these speakers, now after a longer session with them I am convinced they will be my first choice and keepers for sure. Open baffle bass is a revelation. No matter what speakers I may build in the future ob bass will be for me. Today I played a variety of music including Mozart, Dire straits, Led zeppelin, Dancing Fantasy ( who? ) Bob James, Queen, UB40, Aswad ( superb musical bass ), Sade, Joe Nichols, Erlend Oye, etc. I also took some simple measurements, bearing in mind I am bi amping, with 3.5w 2A3 set mono's and pre for the 8" full range and 25w valve hybrid integrated for the eminence alpha's adjustment was necessary to get a balance. I checked the spl from the 8" at 120hz - 75db, at 100hz- 79db and 90hz- 71db. The 15" was 85db flat response from 120hz down to 20hz, at the listening position approx 3 metres. Room is approx 5m x 5m hardwood floor on concrete.