Does anyone remember those three HT2 on a'gon a year or two ago? Their veneer was stained a reddish color. While they were initially priced low, they sold for much more than their listed price, TTBOMK. I think 20% off the original price is pretty good for a speaker that sells substantially below "retail" from the manufacturer. Every once in a while, however, an extremely underpriced pair might be seen, although they get scooped up very quickly. Those MurphyBlasters that were listed last week or the week before didn't last more than a day, I believe.