[Adamay]

I'm curious what power conditioners/filters/regenerators Nuforce owners are using with their amps.  I'm especially interested in hearing comparisons among different conditioners.  I know Nuforce recommends the Blacknoise conditioner.  I'd be interested in hearing how other conditioners perform in comparison.  (I'm currently using a PS Audio UPC-200, which is an improvement over no conditioner; but I suspect I can do better.)  Thanks in advance.

[beachbum]

I;m using a brick wall pw2raud AC filter that was recommended by Nuforce. I also use PS audio noise harvesters, and AudioPrism quitelines around the house along with dedicated lines.

[Caar]

Isotek Titan.
But wondering about dedicated lines somewhere in the future...

[Adamay]

Thanks.  To what extent did the Brickwall and Isotek units improve the sound?  I hear reports that the Blacknoise unit and balanced power conditioners yield jaw-dropping improvements over no conditioner.  Frankly, my PS Audio condition only makes a noticeable improvement, not a really big one, which is why I'm looking around.  How much of an improvement did you get, and in what areas--bass, midrange, treble, black background, etc.  Thanks again for your replies.

[Caar]

Well, I'm not that much of a jaw-dropping type of addicted audio guy myself.
Quantum leaps I got only a couple of times - when I moved to NuForce gear or when I changed some tubes in valve pre+amps or when I migrated to electrostatics, not much more.
What I can say is that with Titan I sense an absolut black background and perfect grip from the NuForces.
Bass, to me, is at 100% (not 90% nor 110%) of what I think it should be.
The same for midrange and upper frequencies.
But the contribution for this result is mainly the system - NuForce+loudspeakers+source.
My reference is with the live music I hear, at concerts (female vocal jazz, mostly).
In the end, adding the Titan made a subtile difference not a dramatic one.
But at this level that's the best we can expect, in my opinion.
And by implementing the conditioner I stopped wondering about possible benefits from such equipment and got ready to move ahead to the next level aa

[albertcamus]

Hello,
I tried system&magic miniblack filter, I heard no difference on my system, I think there is a little one but too hard to hear clearly for me.
I tried Isotek minisub in a shop where there was problems on current quality (ground problems), the improvment was impressive, everything was much cleaner.
Now I own an Isotek Sigmas, there is an improvment but much less important than what I heard in the shop. Guitars, violins, etc. are cleaner.
I don't really hear improvements on voices but didn't test very much. The gain is the same than when I changed the power cords (isotek elite) but filter costs x10.

[rustydoglim]

We have blacknoise products available for audition
We are considering selling BlackNoise direct from our online store since no dealers will carry them due to the recession 

I will provide an updated pricing (lower than what's on the website) very soon. I am currently traveling.

Jason

[schw06]

I'll be the third Isotek user with positive results. I own the Sigmas and have found it makes a dramatic improvement in my system however, it's effect is on the source more than the amps. There is a used sigmas on audiogon from the dealer that I purchased mine from and it's a great deal.
Dave

[Caar]

Hi Jason,
I'me really interested in the 8 sockets distributor Black Noise (230V, 50Hz).
Would NuForce sell Black Noise also for Europe?
Price "lower than what's on the web site" - that's appealing !
By the way, thanks for sending a plastic WBT ring. That's what I call very good service.

Carlos

[rustydoglim]

The US BlackNoise is 110V. Contact Systems and Magic in Italy directly (http://www.systemsandmagic.com/) for 220V to 240V AC system.

[Caar]

Ok, but then "lower than what's on the website" is kaput.
Anyway, I think I'll buy it, seems to be a good product in all aspects.
Carlos