[Canyoneagle]

Fanatical?
I was ANAL about filling voids.
I would think as long as you've killed any resonance, you're fine.

Enjoy the music!

Michael

[Alwayswantmore]

Interesting with the sand-filled stands... I made some Maple ones for my Omega XRS. I haven't compared them to a "dead" stand like yours though...

Nice. Look like Mapleshade footers too. Where did you pick up a beautiful hunk of wood like that?

[DaveC113]

Thanks for the kind words... the Maple I got on ebay, the seller's id is antlersexpress. I got another chunk of it for an amplifier chassis. For the stands, the wood was only about $30 inc. shipping, and the footers are 16 oz plumb bobs, harbor freight was closing them out for $3.99 each. I got a dozen, wish I would have bought more!

[Alwayswantmore]

Thanks for the kind words... the Maple I got on ebay, the seller's id is antlersexpress. I got another chunk of it for an amplifier chassis. For the stands, the wood was only about $30 inc. shipping, and the footers are 16 oz plumb bobs, harbor freight was closing them out for $3.99 each. I got a dozen, wish I would have bought more!

Thanks. You got a steal for those prices.

[lonewolfny42]

Michael....
Is there another spot where you could put that chair thats between your speakers  ?

Enjoy....

              Chris

[tanchiro58]

Yes, and those glass windows!!! How is your sound bouncing against these windows?

[Canyoneagle]

The windows are definitely an issue, especially with the shades pulled back.  The other major issue is the shape of the vaulted ceiling (a big horn).
We are likely to be moving to Coeur D'Alene Idaho in the next 3 months, so I doubt that I'll do much room treatment until I know for sure about the move.
I wondered about the chair - I initially thought that the chair back would help buffer/offset the reflections from the glass.  I can move the chair for listening sessions and see if it helps.
I've also considered hanging a heavy blanket in front of the windows during listening time.

One thing's for sure, when (if) we go house hunting in Idaho, I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for the audio-suitability of the houses.   
I'll probably look to set up the system in a 'den' with few windows and so forth (versus the more open and glassy 'living room' space).  My wife would probably have difficulty with the idea of a 'man cave' in the basement - she'd want the system to be accessible.  Who knows, though.  If we get a house with no 'den' space I might be able to sell the idea of an audio room (call it a 'downstairs den')  aa

Please keep any comments coming on the current setup, if there seem to be some easy (and temporary) ways to treat the room

Warmly,
Michael

[rajacat]

Micheal,

Just get some GIK acoustical panels. They are easily moved and you could set them (the 2" ones) on the window stools at night or whenever you want to have a "serious" listening session. When you move to your new house just take them with you.

-Roy

[Canyoneagle]

Roy-
Thanks for the reminder on these treatments.  I had previously checked out the site (about a year ago), but your posting has given me the motivation to go ahead and get a few tweaks.
I think 3 of the 2" panels up front, plus 2 each at the 1st reflection points on the side walls will be the first step for me.  My current ceiling configuration is a bit perplexing (sloped upwards from the wall behind the speakers to a peak at 16' above the listening position, with a vertical wall extending downwards to 8' ...... see my previous post on this thread with the diagram), but I am thinking of a temporary fix based on a recommendation from the Audionervosa site. My ceiling is essentially a horn, so I need to tame the undesireable aspects of the room horn (over my head).  I am thinking about options, including a few of the GIK panels placed appropriately (I assume this would be a linear reflection - geometric calculaton to find the reflection pont on the ceiling from the center of the driver and the 'ear' level at the listening position - please advise if I need to adjust my thinking).

Okay, I have promised a potential buyer that I would hook up the compact hemps with the sig 30, so NOW is the time.......

[tanchiro58]

....The other major issue is the shape of the vaulted ceiling (a big horn).

Michael,

In my case it is different. When I reconfigured my listening room which also has vaulted ceiling by moving the speakers to the direction of the bighorns-like shape the musics are getting better and better. In other words the VR1s sound like a floor standing speakers and I do not need any room treatment.

The best treatment for the glass windows is wooden shutters.

Tan

[Canyoneagle]

I've been slammed at work lately, and haven't had much time to post.

However, I DID have a chance to hook up the compact hemps to the sig 30, and here are my impressions:

My first realization was how much of a difference the amp can make.  I really feel that the speakers were not able to be fully realized until they were played through proper amplification, in this case, the RWA Sig 30/30.2.

WOW.

Everything is better.  Imaging, detail, frequency response,  emotion,  EVERYTHING.

When compared to the MaxHemps, the bass is tighter and faster, but not quite as extended (although it is surprisingly deep and present).

The first disc I played is one of my current faves: Mickey Hart's "global Drum Project".
The dynamics were markedly improved when compared to sessions with my little 6 watt SLA tripath.  The subtleties of voices and instruments were noticeably better with the sig 30/30.2.
It is difficult to compare the hemptones to the max's.  They are different speakers entirely, but also from a similar lineage.
The max's sound smoother through the entire range, but lack the 'punch' that the hemptones posess.
The max's have a broader, deeper soundstage at (what in my imperfect room) appears to be a slight sacrifice in pinpoint imaging.  The hemptones seem to have a razorlike imaging that is amazing to hear, with an impressive depth of soundstage, but they lack the smoothness of the Max's.

Tradeoffs everywhere, but my conclusion is that both speakers are fabulous.  Both are extremely musical, despite my analytical descriptions above.  Both are incredibly revealing, which is astounding with well-recorded material and intolerable with poorly recorded material.  These are not forgiving speakers, but they are incredibly rewarding with good source material and front end.

Bear in mind my room is far from perfect.

Okay, that's enough for now......

Warmly,
Michael

[rajacat]

I'd really be curious how the Hemp Bipoles  compare to the larger Hemps. They do need some 4-5 feet breathing room behind them to be at their best. I prefer  to run them in the dipole mode. The 4'-1/2" drivers do produce a surprising amount of bass. ZLS has a custom set of Hemp Dipoles in larger cabinets which, no doubt, produce even more bass. I'm currently running them with a couple of the little Trends 10.1s which have some simple mods and are battery powered. The little drivers really produce a nice organic tone, image well and fill my room with an expansive soundstage. I'll soon have some tube monoblocks  aa which will be frosting on the cake. 

-Roy