VSAC 2003 and more

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Wayne1

VSAC 2003 and more
« on: 9 Oct 2003, 12:13 am »
I returned from VSAC last night after driving in from Boise.

It was a very interesting trip. The drive (over 40 hours out and back) wasn't too bad. I did enjoy the trip west more than the trip to Ohio. I was by myself, so not having to put up with Pez for the entire time may have added to the fun factor :D

The rooms were terrible. Absolutely the worst I have encountered in my short time at audio shows. There were exhibitors right next to each other and the walls and floors were very easily excited. The hallways would bounce as you walked by.

The Bolder Cable/ Teres Audio room was right next to Electron Luv. Those guys from Salt Lake tend to play their music rather loud. The new amp Josh built uses a Russian RF transmitter tube that was putting out on a LOT of Frequencies. Not only could you easily hear the music coming through the wall, when I tried to use the phone to check in at home, I could hear their music through the receiver.

It took me until Sunday morning to really get the room tamed. The first day the sub was far too boomy. I got rid of most of it by Saturday afternoon. Sunday was the best sound but there weren't many folks coming by and we shut down and started packing up by 2:00 pm.

davehg stopped by after I had shut down. It was fun to talk to him, even for just a short while. Bubba came by twice and we had a few beverages and talked video on Sunday afternoon/evening.

I had a great time meeting Jim Hagerman and we were able to do some business. Jim has decided to concentrate on his half kit business and building the Trumpet phono preamp. He is no longer going to supply a finished version of the Cornet phono preamp. We have agreed that I will offer a finished version of the Cornet for those who wish to use Jim's design but do not care to build it themselves.

I also got to meet Chris Brady's brothers. These two guys do much of the actual fabrication work for the Teres turntable. There is a good possibility that I might be able to have them build some cases for the phono preamp. I also might have them make a new case for the DI/O. All of this still needs to be finalized and I will not have any product for delivery for a few months. I will post here when these projects become reality.

The Cornet does sound absouletly awesome with the right tubes. Jim sold the Trumpet we were using on Saturday. I brought out a version of the Cornet that Marbles bought. He sent it to me to do some upgrades and to install step-up transformers. I didn't get around to installing them before I left, but John Chapman lent me a pair of his TX-103s built into a nice case.

A great guy who was hanging out in the room, just happened to have a pair of NOS Tungsram 12AX7s that we put in the Cornet. The sound was truly transformed from the Sylvania's that I was using. It was really close to what we were getting from the Trumpet.

I think the one item that excited me the most was learning that there will be an audio fest here in Denver next year in October. Ron Welborne is helping to put it together. I do hope that more members from AC will make the trek out here.

Ron has asked for some ideas to set this fest apart form others. I have offered to look into making a special batch of beer just for this get together. I believe I can get one of the local brepubs to let me come in and brew it. I will need some help with making sure it is all consumed. I will have to make at least 15 kegs worth.

I will post some pictures from our room later on. In the meantime check out the shots from 6moons http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/vsac03/vsac_10.html

Marbles

Re: VSAC 2003 and more
« Reply #1 on: 9 Oct 2003, 12:44 am »
Quote from: Wayne1
A great guy who was hanging out in the room, just happened to have a pair of NOS Tungsram 12AX7s that we put in the Cornet. The sound was truly transformed from the Sylvania's that I was using. It was really close to what we were getting from the Trumpet.
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OK, where do I get those???

Glad you had a great time..good luck with those business opportunities.

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« Reply #2 on: 9 Oct 2003, 12:58 am »
Man I wish I could have gone it sure would have beat being at work this week (and weekend).  That Teres table just looks insane (in a good way).

Wayne1

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« Reply #3 on: 9 Oct 2003, 03:12 am »
Here is a nice shot of the Teres 340 on Chris' sandbox that was used for isolation. Note the Bybee inline purifiers used on the input of the Hagerman step-up transformer :)



Here is a shot of the show rig. Bybee power cords were used on the power amps



Here is a shot of Marbles' Cornet with Bent Audio MU step-up transformers with the Bybees on the inputs.



Marbles,

I believe Kevin Deal of Upscale Audio has those tubes. I think the guy said they were around $35.00 EACH.

Marbles

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« Reply #4 on: 9 Oct 2003, 03:25 am »
In case anyone is interested, Wayne will install the (from Bent Audio) S&B TX103 step -up transformers at the inputs INSIDE the case.  He will also install Bybees inside the case and change the input/output wiring to Nitro.

This should eliminate several conectors and reduce cable lengths etc..It should come out sounding better after these upgrades  :P   I can hardly wait!

Thanks for the heads up on Upscale Audio.

bubba966

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« Reply #5 on: 9 Oct 2003, 06:23 am »
Well, this was the first audio show I've ever been to. And while I was seriously out of my element as I don't do music only (be it 2 channel or MC), I still enjoyed myself overall.

I only got to listen to Waynes setup Saturday morning & once again a few hours later. So I didn't get to hear it when he had it setup better on Sunday.

But I will say that I did find it to be sounding quite good when I listened. I listened both to the Teres, and the XA-777ES. The Teres didn't just look damn good (the pics don't do it justice), it sounded damn good as well!

Wayne was nice enough to do some swapping of the digitals in the setup. He was using a silver bullet/cryo'd cable w/inline Bybee. I brought with me the Cryo'd Napalm Ultra (silver bullets, 2 Bybee's, full ERS wrap, & cryo) digital he built me. I definitely felt the CNU digital was better. I'm happy with my cable... :mrgreen:

I also enjoyed yappin' & drinkin' with Wayne Sunday evening. I'm sure we woulda been there for a while longer, but he had to leave.

Oh, and Wayne was absolutely right about the horrid rooms. It was waaaaay to easy to hear (or feel) what the guy next door was playing. And Wayne also demo'd for me how bad the room was buy clapping once after he'd tore down the 8th Nerve room treatments. Needless to say, I've now got to look into some 8th Nerve product as it made a huge difference in Wayne's room.

Pez

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« Reply #6 on: 11 Oct 2003, 03:29 am »
Sounds like you guys had fun. :) It's a good thing I lent Wayne all that extra room treatment  :o I wonder if it would have sounded better if you had someone who knows how to listen set-up the room like MAF :roll: :P

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« Reply #7 on: 11 Oct 2003, 02:25 pm »
Hey,  wait a minute, he took my room treatment , too  :o  Overdamped?  Jason, i wish I had your ears as long as it did't involve you face :lol: