[Dracule1]

Interesting thread guys.  I have been interested in upgrading my recepticle and looked into the Furutech and PS Audio Power Port recepticles.  Wish I had read this thread before purchasing the PS Audio Power Port.  Does anyone have experience with the Power Port?  Thanks.

[Midnite Mick]

If that is what they call their receptacle (power port) then I remember reading a post of someone on another forum that lived in an apartment and he said it made a huge difference.

If that is not the receptacle,then.............disregard.

Mike

[jmourik]

What's a good place to buy the Furutech recepticle?

[Dyak]

Hey Dracule1, et al,

I have no personal experience with the Power Ports.

Though I do read the DIY/Tweak forum on a daily basis in AA (audio asylum).  I've read numerous posts about the PS Audio Power Port outlets.....most were not positive.  The ones that were positive, were usually in reference to an upgrade from a "generic" outlet.  I've also read many posts where people were ready to give-away/sell their UOs, UPCs, etc....the universal suggestion/solution that I've read in AA is to change out the stock (Power Port) outlets for an "audio grade" outlet....most of the responses of those who have tried this "tweak" have ranged from happy to ecstatic with the improvement in performance.

Below is a link that 'Duster' from AA posted in regards to a similar question....Keep in mind that Duster really "talks up" the Oyaide and Furutech outlets (his own personal preference, in his system(s) I presume?) but he is also one of the more respected and prolific posters on AA in regards to outlets and cords.  He has tested and compared quite a few outlets, cords, and connectors....   I, personally, feel that he's rather candid, balanced, and fair in his assessments and discussions on AA.  It may be worth a search of the AudioAsylum Tweak/DIY page to get more a range of views..... and maybe post a question there after doing some digging on your own.

http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/140119.html

Best of Luck,

Doug

Jmourik, check this page....others may have a better price, but I do not know.  http://www.vhaudio.com/acreceptacles.html   I've bought lots of gear from Chris VH... he's a good guy (IMHO).

[michaelv]

I have PS Audio UO (Ultimate Outlet) which has power port in it. The port is actually Hubbell and i don't know if there is a big different between Hubbell or Furutech.  I read in Cable Asylum forum that some prefer to replace power port by Furutech  which i think i will do the same for my UO.

One thing i experience is that replacing my old receptacle by Furutech increases the dynamic , especially the low end which i missed in my system. Eventually, i will replace all power cables  with Furutech plug (luckily, i have only 3 cables...)

You can also find Furutech on cryo-parts.com or vhaudio.com

[michaelv]

I read  in cable asylum that some people use either  Quantum electroclear and audioprism Quietline filter .  I was wondering whether anyone has tried them to further suppress the line noise? I hope to hear opinion if someone has tried these toys..

[gooberdude]

i've listenend to a few systems with them in place, but never played with any myself.


One very odd attribute of the Oyaide system i use is the sheer lack of noise.  Before, i could hear a slight hum when either my dishwasher or clothes drier were running, now its silent.   Before, i could tell a diff between day listening and late night sessions - not anymore.    No idea how Oyaide or any other mfgr makes the outlets passively remove some grunge, but they do.

just my observation.  Oyaide does mention this, but i figured it was nonsense.  After experiencing this stuff the last 6 months i'm convinced though.

if anyone lives in an area with 'bad electricity' they should try out outlets as well...i've spoken with a few guys who only listen at night due to this.

matt

[michaelv]

gooberdude, it's interesting to hear that.

I've just talked to one of my friends who has a hum inside Arcam cdp. He swears that the hum reduced almost 90% when he plugs the Quietline into the power conditioner. I'm not sure whether the problem of cdp transformer hum is coming from the power conditioner  or not.

I actually hear very slight noise or hum coming from the speaker when i turn the volume up to 12 o'clock without playing anything. I guess i the power line is ok.

[ctviggen]

DC in a transformer will cause hum.  Check the DC level of the AC line.

[Dyak]

Hey MichaelV,

I've tried 3 of the ElectroClears.  These and the Quietlines, to the best of my recollection are just "parallel filtration".  They use capacitors in parallel to reduce noise on the electrical line.

In my experience, 3-of these did not do much for me. 

When I plugged them into the same line that my gear is plugged into I noticed a dramatic loss of dynamics, punch, gestalt, etc....   Not good.  After some more reading I found that they are best used around the house on the same line as noisy appliances (fridge, fluorescent lights, dimmer switches, etc...).  Scattered about the house, for me it seems that it would take at least 6, maybe more, to have a significant benefit.  Now, keep in mind that I use a tweaked Monster power conditioner which already quiets the line noise pretty well...so it may work for others...?

Presently, I am using 2 of the ElectroClears on my power distr. for my PC ...personal computer....(that I use EAC on)....along with a Z-Sleeve (AWESOME product for use w/audio gear!!!...on power cords, ICs, etc...) and a DIY RGPC....I've used EAC (Exact Audio Copy) to "remaster" (rip and burn) most of my CD collection with some nice improvements in sound quality.  The QLs may (?) be helping here, but I can't be certain.  See the links in this AA post to learn about EAC and such...   http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/digital/messages/126347.html

If you are confident w/DIY AC stuff, there are some recipes for making these parallel filters on the audioasylum Tweaks/DIY section.  You gotta do a search over there.... I may try doing this, since its so cheap in relative terms to the commercial units.   

Jon Risch (http://www.geocities.com/jonrisch/index2.htm) has some great DIY designs for all sorts of stuff (bass traps, room lenses, etc....) including directions for creating a very good in-line power filter, but some of the parts are tough to acquire.....DIYcable.com has a filter already pre-assembled, that uses nearly the same directions/specs as Jon's design.  http://www.diycable.com/main/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=536

For a CD/DVD player, a DIY isolation transformer may do just the trick (Jon Risch design also!).... http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=tweaks&m=43988

Best of luck, and please be VERY SAFE!!!

Doug

[carusoracer]

Thanks to the forum for making me dig out my Furutech outlet that had been sitting in its box for almost a year...My system has never sounded better. I listened Sat and Sun for hours and found myself going through new and old CD's just to hear how they sound

It a considerable improvement over my cryoed Hubble. Great product

[jmourik]

Well, reading through this thread I'm thinking, hmmm, maybe I should try one of those Furutechs. But then I'm wondering, should I just got for either a Shunyata or an Oyaide. So now I'm in doubt again... grrrr...

jan

[michaelv]

I bet Oyaide will be better than Furutech (cu) , but my budget is limit. That's why i went with Furutech and i'm happy. I guess the system will be better if i change my power cable (at least changing the male/female plug) with Furutech connector.

[carusoracer]

I bet Oyaide will be better than Furutech (cu) , but my budget is limit. That's why i went with Furutech and i'm happy. I guess the system will be better if i change my power cable (at least changing the male/female plug) with Furutech connector.

I tried they least expensive Oyaide outlet in a BPT PPC and it was very lean. I understand the upper models are better.

[Jon L]

I bet Oyaide will be better than Furutech (cu) , but my budget is limit. That's why i went with Furutech and i'm happy. I guess the system will be better if i change my power cable (at least changing the male/female plug) with Furutech connector.

I tried they least expensive Oyaide outlet in a BPT PPC and it was very lean. I understand the upper models are better.

You tried the unplated Oyaide? 

I can tell you that their top-model palladium/gold outlet is very lean in the bass also..

[michaelv]

I tried they least expensive Oyaide outlet in a BPT PPC and it was very lean. I understand the upper models are better.

I agree, but the lowest model is still way beyond my budget... . I eventually will upgrade it. In the meantime, i try to replace all pc i have. My current set up is: CDP --> PS audio UO (Signal cable), Integrated Amp --> PS Audio UO (XLO Ref2 10A), and PS Audio UO --> wall outlet (SignalCable).

Since i replace the wall outlet by Furutech, i get more bass, but i still feel that the dynamic is kind of choking. Therefore, i decide to diy Flavor 4 from vhaudio for Integrated amp, and replace pc plug for XLO (current it has hubbell) to see if there is any improvement.  If so, the rest of system will be Flavor 4 too.  Will keep posted.

[gooberdude]

Hey MichaelV,

Be sure to let the Furu outlet burn-in for a month b4 installing a new power cord.

The Fi-15 Cu outlet was weird for me because it had bass right from the start, typically the bottom end is the last attribute to show up (and how I gauge whether or not burn-in is complete for many components).   The dynamics will open up over the next few weeks for sure as the outlet mellows...

If you were to put a new pc in place now, it might be difficult to know what it is doing to the sound.  everything would sound pretty sluggish for 3-4 weeks IMO.    If you have a home tower computer, let the new Flavor 4 cord power your pc for a week before installing it on your integrated.   Once the Furu outlet is burned in you can fully enjoy listening to the Flavor 4 as it burns-in.    Power cords and outlets both seem to require one full month of burn-in time before sounding right...

The unplated brass Oyaide outlet isn't too good supposedly, I ordered one from a trusted vendor and he e-mailed me back telling me not to buy it.    The SWO-XXX outlets + P-079 plugs seem to be the perfect match for my set-up.

no affiliation.    my 2 cents...

[michaelv]

I've just finished making VH audio Flavor 4. It takes me almost 1.5 hour to finish.  Furutech FI-11  is actually easier to install with large gauge cable.  I know that i have to burn in the cable before plugging it in the system, but i can't resist the temptation.. So, first impression: Clean, detail and huge soundstage. Bass is tight but not well defined . This  is probably due to burn-in time.   I connect Flavor 4 from integrated amp to PS audio UO .

Tomorrow , i'm going to order two more furutech FI-11 plugs to replace the plug on my XLO Ref2 type 10A and Signal cable.

By the way, does anyone know which type of cable from Signalcable PC? It's large cable (10 gauge).

thanks.