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Bob Reynolds

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New Product Suggestion
« on: 22 Aug 2006, 08:04 pm »
Since many people work at computers all day, having a nice audio system can make the work day more enjoyable. I've been trying to locate a solid state amp in the 10W to 15W range for my office system. I'm currently using a 2.5W SET amp that I'd like to replace.

How much work would it be to turn a D100 into a D10?

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kfr01

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« Reply #1 on: 22 Aug 2006, 11:56 pm »
Why would you want to decrease watts? 

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Re: New Product Suggestion
« Reply #2 on: 23 Aug 2006, 12:14 am »
Why would you want to decrease watts? 

Sorry, I left out a critical detail -- the speakers are sitting on the desktop only 30 inches away.


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« Reply #3 on: 23 Aug 2006, 12:34 am »
Right, why not just buy the D100? 

A little headroom never hurt anybody.

If you're looking to cut cost, how about a t-amp.

CIAudio

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« Reply #4 on: 23 Aug 2006, 04:04 am »
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Since many people work at computers all day, having a nice audio system can make the work day more enjoyable. I've been trying to locate a solid state amp in the 10W to 15W range for my office system. I'm currently using a 2.5W SET amp that I'd like to replace.

How much work would it be to turn a D100 into a D10?

It wouldn't save a whole lot to make a lower power version. I am working on a smaller package/less expensive 2 x 100 stereo amplifier, but don't know if it will actually become a product. I'm really making it because I need a new test amp for my bench  :icon_lol:

As kfr01 mentioned, one of the lil T amps would probably work fine for your computer setup.

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Re: New Product Suggestion
« Reply #5 on: 23 Aug 2006, 02:49 pm »
Right, why not just buy the D100? 

A little headroom never hurt anybody.

If you're looking to cut cost, how about a t-amp.

Because with that many watts I'll have limited fine level control. I previously used a NAD C320BEE (50wpc) and I ended up with two volume settings -- too low and too high.

The 2.5W SET amp plays much louder than I ever care to listen, so even 10W will be plenty.

I'm not really looking to cut cost. My alternative at the moment is the $1500 Sugden power amp (25wpc) and I'm afraid I'll be back with the same level setting problem.

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« Reply #6 on: 23 Aug 2006, 02:54 pm »
It wouldn't save a whole lot to make a lower power version. I am working on a smaller package/less expensive 2 x 100 stereo amplifier, but don't know if it will actually become a product. I'm really making it because I need a new test amp for my bench  :icon_lol:

As kfr01 mentioned, one of the lil T amps would probably work fine for your computer setup.

Thanks for the reply.

Since I have $1800 in the system not counting the Decware SET amp, I have a tough time considering one of the T-amps. Looks like Sugden is my best option.

Best regards,
Bob

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« Reply #7 on: 23 Aug 2006, 02:55 pm »

How about some attenuators along with your current amp?  I used Rothwell's inline attenuators in my system a while back - they take about 10db off the volume, I think.  No obvious impact on dynamics, either (at least to my ears, in my humble system).

If I can find mine, I could even send them along so you could try them out.

Chad

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« Reply #8 on: 23 Aug 2006, 02:59 pm »

How about some attenuators along with your current amp?  I used Rothwell's inline attenuators in my system a while back - they take about 10db off the volume, I think.  No obvious impact on dynamics, either (at least to my ears, in my humble system).

If I can find mine, I could even send them along so you could try them out.

Chad

I tried the Rothwell inline attenuators -- nice products. I even had him make up a custom 20dB pair after trying the 10dB set. I'll probably end up using them with the Sugden.

CIAudio

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« Reply #9 on: 23 Aug 2006, 06:59 pm »
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Because with that many watts I'll have limited fine level control. I previously used a NAD C320BEE (50wpc) and I ended up with two volume settings -- too low and too high.

We could always build you a pair of D-100's with reduced gain  :D

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« Reply #10 on: 23 Aug 2006, 07:14 pm »
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Because with that many watts I'll have limited fine level control. I previously used a NAD C320BEE (50wpc) and I ended up with two volume settings -- too low and too high.

We could always build you a pair of D-100's with reduced gain  :D

That's a good thought. Can you give me some ideas on how to determine an appropriate gain?


CIAudio

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« Reply #11 on: 23 Aug 2006, 07:55 pm »
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That's a good thought. Can you give me some ideas on how to determine an appropriate gain?

Call me and we can discuss it...shouldn't be hard to figure out.

-Dusty-

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« Reply #12 on: 23 Aug 2006, 08:42 pm »
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That's a good thought. Can you give me some ideas on how to determine an appropriate gain?

Call me and we can discuss it...shouldn't be hard to figure out.

-Dusty-

Thanks Dusty. Let me give it some thought for a day before I call you. I don't want to waste your time.

-- Bob

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« Reply #13 on: 4 Sep 2006, 11:31 am »
Here's another new product suggestion:

Combining the power supply with DAC/phono/headphone units since they're so recommended together anyway.  This should save cost and complication. 


Bob,

NuForce offers a small digital integrated, probably at a better price than Dusty can custom it for.  (Keep Dusty working on stuff I want.   :wink:)

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« Reply #14 on: 23 Sep 2006, 09:51 am »
How about a TVC passive pre-amp?

CIAudio

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« Reply #15 on: 23 Sep 2006, 02:33 pm »
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How about a TVC passive pre-amp?

Personally, I prefer good potentiometer based passives.

There's no real reason for us to make a TVC, there are already several companies who use S&B transformer/rotary switch if you like that type.

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« Reply #16 on: 23 Sep 2006, 04:04 pm »
Thanks for all the additional product suggestions and to Dusty for offerring to build a D-100 with custom gain for me. After quite a bit of thought I have decided that I don't want a switching amp on my desktop.

I have chosen an ATI AT602. It has input level adjustments that allows me to operate my passive volume control in a range where I have more level control.

Thanks to all,
Bob