GR-T6 Tweeter Is Impressive

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FredT300B

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« on: 28 Apr 2006, 01:58 pm »
If you're a SET amp lover like me you may have been frustrated by the absence of affordable high sensitivity speakers that sound good. I've built a few high sensitivity speakers, and most were either line arrays or Fostex-based single drivers. Line arrays are a good choice, but even if you use inexpensive drivers they're pricey because of the number of drivers needed. Fostex-based single driver speakers can be built economically and are a good choice for some, but they have too many compromises to suit my taste (weak bass, shouty treble, and too little cone excursion to play very loud without distortion).

A couple of months ago Danny brought a standmount speaker using an Eminence Alpha 8 woofer and a GR-T6 tweeter to a Dallas Audio Club meeting. The sound was very impressive, especially the tweeter, but they had too much baffle step compensation to be suitable for use with 3 watt SET amps. After hearing these speakers I decided to build a pair using a larger floorstanding enclosure, 1st order crossover, and no bsc to take full advantage of the Alpha 8's 95dB sensitivity. They're front-ported to permit close to the wall placement. The enclosures are 36"H, 9-1/4"W, 12-3/4"D.

I took them to last week's Dallas Audio Club meeting and their reception by other members was very positive, especially considering their $200-$300/pr construction cost. I believe the Eminence/GR driver combination would be a good choice for anybody else looking for an affordable high sensitivity speaker. This veneered pair cost about $300 to build. The actual parts cost (excluding the enclosures) ranges from about $90 per speaker if you use inexpensive crossover parts (Jantzen air core inductors, Solen cap, Dayton resistors) to about $110 if you substitute  Alpha Core inductors, Sonicaps, and Mills resistors (these speakers are good enough to justify the upgrade, especially the Sonicaps). Picture at this link:

http://fredt300b.smugmug.com/gallery/132721/1/66687024

FredT300B

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« Reply #1 on: 28 Apr 2006, 05:33 pm »
Forgot to mention, we'll have these speakers plus a modded DAC-60 in the Dallas Audio Club room at the Great Plains Audio Fest in Tulsa OK on the weekend of May 5-7.

http://www.greatplainsaudiofest.com/

Danny Richie

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« Reply #2 on: 28 Apr 2006, 09:01 pm »
The pair you heard in Dallas used a very step crossover at 1,500Hz, and yes they did have full baffle step compensation and were 91db sensitivity.

They did turn out surprising good. I still might offer them as a kit if any are interested.

FredT300B

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« Reply #3 on: 29 Apr 2006, 12:06 pm »
Quote from: Danny
The pair you heard in Dallas used a very step crossover at 1,500Hz, and yes they did have full baffle step compensation and were 91db sensitivity.

They did turn out surprising good. I still might offer them as a kit if any are interested.


Audio meetings are noisy so I didn't have a chance to do any critical listening, but they did sound very good. The 8" woofer with bsc moves a lot of air and has very impressive bass, easily equal to the Vandersteen 2Ce Sig's I used to have, and the tweeter seemed comparable to those I hear in mainstream speakers in the $2K range. Their 91dB sensitivity would make them a great match for some of the 40-50 watt solid state integrateds (NAD, Arcam, Creek, etc) you can pick up on Audiogon for about $300. If you built a pair and took them to the RMAF so people can hear them I suspect they would become a popular addition to the GR line.

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« Reply #4 on: 1 May 2006, 07:25 pm »
didn't we also hear a Speaker with the 8" driver & a BG NEO 3?

It was a Floor stander not a Stand Mounted Monitor.

I would imagine that it too would be Tube friendly
maybe even SET friendly.


What I'd like is for someone to mate a Neo-3PDR into
a wave guide....and match it up to something similar
to the alpha 8---alpha 10".  Make it a medium sized
Floor stander for good sensitivity & efficiiency.  PHY
driver....

Or how about an open backed Neo with nice 8"
drivers on an open baffle.

Danny Richie

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« Reply #5 on: 1 May 2006, 09:31 pm »
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didn't we also hear a Speaker with the 8" driver & a BG NEO 3?


Yes you did. Same woofer, different tweeter.

Carl V

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« Reply #6 on: 1 May 2006, 11:06 pm »
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Forgot to mention, we'll have these speakers plus a modded DAC-60 in the Dallas Audio Club room at the Great Plains Audio Fest in Tulsa OK on the weekend of May 5-7.

http://www.greatplainsaudiofest.com/


I'll be there.

I look forward to hearing these & many other designs.

jon_010101

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« Reply #7 on: 2 May 2006, 12:35 am »
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didn't we also hear a Speaker with the 8" driver & a BG NEO 3?


I'd definitely buy a pair of in a "large standmount" configuration.  Alternatively, a high-efficiency Neo+PHL speaker would be really nice too.

tg3

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« Reply #8 on: 12 May 2006, 08:30 pm »
I got to listen to the Alpha 8/GR-T6 system in Tulsa. Single cap and inductor in the XO. A very nice speaker to just sit and listen. Good job.    :thumb: