Jantzen Audio's Audio-Grade Superes Resistors? Or other Mills substitute?

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Bo Dacious

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With Mills resistors seemingly difficult to source -- or at least I find availability spotty, I can occasionally find some values and not others, I am looking for alternatives for cross-overs.

Does anyone have any experience with Jantzen Audio's "Superes" Resistors?  The prices are reasonable with good availability (at least on PartsExpress).  Are they a good substitute for hard-to-find Mills resistors?
Alternatively, what about Mundorf resistors -- the M-Resist Supreme 20w (expensive) and the M-Resist Classic Copper-Nickel 10w (priced comparably to Mills)?  While the Supreme's better be better, are Jantzen's Superes comparable to the Mundorf Classic at a 30% price discount? Dayton Audio's "Precision Series" resistors (apparently wirewound) are much cheaper still but ar they any good?

I have no way to test these in any reliable way, so I am hoping someone here has some experience they can share. 
Finally, does resistor quality make more or less of a difference in a bass circuit that a treble/mid circuit?
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I.Greyhound Fan

Parts connexion has mills resistors in stock.  They are a warmer sounding resistor.

Bo Dacious

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Thanks.
I'm not sure increasing warmth is something I am necessarily after.  I am probably more interested in clarity, detail and neutrality.
To be sure, Mills resistors are the ones I've been familiar with for years, and I most recently used them in a pair of satellite speakers.  But I am curious to know how the others compare.  From what I can find, the Mundorf M-Resist Supremes are "brighter".  The Jantzen Superes Resistors are thought to be clear and neutral, as well as exceptional value.  The problem with choice of all these different resistors, is having sufficient information to make an informed choice -- especially when it is difficult for people to audition each one.  So if there are those of you who have compared or have some perspective on this, it would be great to see if some kind of consensus emerges. 

I assume, and please correct me if this is incorrect, is that the differences in resistors (particularly those of the same type) would be less less audible in bass low-pass circuits that in tweeter circuits.  Perhaps in my tweeter circuit I should just open my wallet and put in Path resistors - which I suspect would be wasted in the bass low-pass board.

Finally, in this era of crazy tariffs and trade wars, I wonder if ordering from Parts Connexion in Canada would be a problem.

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Finally, in this era of crazy tariffs and trade wars, I wonder if ordering from Parts Connexion in Canada would be a problem
I don't know about that direction (Canada to US), but I know from US to Canada I had a surcharge (counter tariff) of 25% when I bought a Double Trouble sub in March.

Mary

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Mouser and Digikey have stock of several sizes of the Mills resistors.

I.Greyhound Fan

The Vishay-Dale resistors are similar to the Mills but brighter.  I have used both in Xovers.  Other resistors for electronics are Audio Note and Tantalum.

Here is a great place to buy various resistors.  I have bought from them before and they ship quickly to the U.S.

https://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/mills.html

I have used Duelund resistors with my Magnepans.  The sound very clear and detailed.

https://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/duelund_cast_resistors.html  You can also get them at Parts Connexion.  Parts Connexion has a U.S. warehouse.  Give them a call and see if there is an import tariff.


Bo Dacious

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Mouser and Digikey have stock of several sizes of the Mills resistors.

I've spent a lot of time search for these through both places and have not found them.  Search through these sites with 10's of millions of products is a time-consuming challenge.  Even selecting the brand "Mills/Vishay" or "Vishay/Mills" doesn't come up with the relevant products.   

I am also aware that the original Mills resistors are no longer available, since being acquired by Vishay (some dwindling NOS supplies exist).  New production Vishy-Mills resistors, as I've read, are apparently a little different, but should be pretty close.

Jon L

The Vishay-Dale resistors are similar to the Mills but brighter.

Interesting.  I find the Vishay RS axial resistors pretty neutral (compared to bypass).  Vishay Naked S102 metal foil resistor, yeah a bit bright 8)




Mary

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Vishay purchased Mill in 2011. The Mills are identified, in mouser anyway, as Vishay Mills.  Here is a link to the Mouser page of Mills resistors.

https://www.mouser.com/c/?q=vishay%20mills

Bo Dacious

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Here is a great place to buy various resistors.  I have bought from them before and they ship quickly to the U.S.

https://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/mills.html

Looks like HifiCollective prices on Mills resistors are virtually twice what they are at US/Canada suppliers.



Bo Dacious

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Vishay purchased Mill in 2011. The Mills are identified, in mouser anyway, as Vishay Mills.  Here is a link to the Mouser page of Mills resistors.

https://www.mouser.com/c/?q=vishay%20mills

Thanks.  Here is there listing for one value that I need -- 8 weeks lead time and potentially subject to tariffs (not to mention having to order 1,000 pieces):


Danny Richie

We finally had some high quality resistors made for us. We ordered about 20,000 of them. They sound great, and are only $4.00 each.

I.Greyhound Fan

I've spent a lot of time search for these through both places and have not found them.  Search through these sites with 10's of millions of products is a time-consuming challenge.  Even selecting the brand "Mills/Vishay" or "Vishay/Mills" doesn't come up with the relevant products.   

I am also aware that the original Mills resistors are no longer available, since being acquired by Vishay (some dwindling NOS supplies exist).  New production Vishy-Mills resistors, as I've read, are apparently a little different, but should be pretty close.

The Vishay-Dale resistors sound bright.  The Mills are warmer.  I have compared them both when modding a cross over to a pair of PSB B6 speakers. 

Bo Dacious

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We finally had some high quality resistors made for us. We ordered about 20,000 of them. They sound great, and are only $4.00 each.
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