Crossover parts and Education

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BrandonB

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Crossover parts and Education
« on: 20 Jun 2023, 02:26 pm »
I have been following Hobbs in his NX-studio build thread while he switches out crossover parts and talks about the changes in sound.  Tyson and Hobbs both have put a large coke can size Caps instead of bypassing a less expensive larger cap with a smaller cap witch saves money and space.  How much of a difference in sound do you get from going from a bypass cap to a large coke can sized cap.  I also seen where Hobbs and a few other people in the forum have bypassed a large cap with a silver cap and a copper cap to get clarity and smoothness.  When you are.bypassing a cap do you add the Capacitance together or is it so small that it doesn't matter?  I have seen bits and pieces of this topic in other threads but it seemsbthis  is almost another form of tube rolling or should it be called cap rolling?

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Early B.

Re: Crossover parts and Education
« Reply #2 on: 20 Jun 2023, 07:45 pm »
I've rolled some caps, but cap rolling should be considered as a final tweak. Instead of buying expensive caps, a better use of your money is maxing out on top-quality speakers, components, and cables.   

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« Reply #3 on: 20 Jun 2023, 07:52 pm »
I recommend building out a speaker with the stock parts first and use it for a while before considering any parts upgrades.

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« Reply #4 on: 20 Jun 2023, 08:52 pm »
You can buy a lot of room treatments for the price of a couple of Dueland caps.   Everyone has to decide where to put your money... unless  money is no object. 

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« Reply #5 on: 20 Jun 2023, 10:00 pm »
I recommend building out a speaker with the stock parts first and use it for a while before considering any parts upgrades.

I are gree with Tyson

The speaker designer's parts choices are an important part of the voicing of the speaker. GR kit parts are decent quality and high value for the price so thats the best place to start. Iff you have ultra high end electronics cables and room treatment and cursed with a golden ear and need your violin tone to be as perfect as possible then by all means upgrade the caps.  But when you upgrade one thing it usually reveals other flaws needing upgrading too. So you might better just upgrade the whole speaker, so the whole speaker system works together to support the higher resolution. Not just over-improved caps.

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« Reply #6 on: 20 Jun 2023, 10:29 pm »
If you have ultra high end electronics cables and room treatment and cursed with a golden ear and need your violin tone to be as perfect as possible then by all means upgrade the caps.  But when you upgrade one thing it usually reveals other flaws needing upgrading too. So you might better just upgrade the whole speaker, so the whole speaker system works together to support the higher resolution. Not just over-improved caps.

Yep. I learned that lesson the hard way. A few years ago, I poured a bunch of money into upgrading my crossovers. The sound improved a bit, but what I really needed was a speaker upgrade. I sold the speakers, but I didn't recoup any of my money from the crossover upgrade.

 

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« Reply #7 on: 20 Jun 2023, 10:44 pm »
The by-pass cap can alter the sound as much as the main cap in some cases. Hobbs has been burning in a group of by-pass caps and we are about to have a little by-pass cap shoot out.

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« Reply #8 on: 21 Jun 2023, 12:54 am »
The by-pass cap can alter the sound as much as the main cap in some cases. Hobbs has been burning in a group of by-pass caps and we are about to have a little by-pass cap shoot out.

Ok. Now this is interesting and begs a YouTube video of what you did, why you did it, and what the results were

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« Reply #9 on: 21 Jun 2023, 03:35 am »
Ok. Now this is interesting and begs a YouTube video of what you did, why you did it, and what the results were

Great Idea!