XLS Encore assembly questions

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vvc

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XLS Encore assembly questions
« on: 7 Dec 2019, 11:46 pm »
Hi all,
I've got myself a project: X_LS Encore kit + No-Res and CNC-ed cabinet kit from Peter Rawlings
This is going to be my first project in audio, so I have some basic questions.

In his assembling video Peter puts all sides together in one go whereas in some other assembly theads I see in the forum, people leave one side open. My guess is that it is for easier installation of crossover board and to be able to put no-res. I can think of putting crossover board into place before assembling cabinet, is it a good idea?
What about no-res:
  - Put it before assembling cabinet? But then installing those angular braces would be slightly more diiffcult?
  - Assemble cabinet except of single side. When done, put crossover board and apply no-res?
  - Perhaps impossible: assemble cabinet and insert no-res through the speaker hole. I would imagine you'd have to have surgeons hands to be able to to that with one hand in constrained space.

What should not be covered with no-res? I would imagine that the bottom, where crossover board is is not covered. Or maybe cover the bottom except the actual space where board is?
What about front panel, I could not find any build which would show what is done to the front panel in terms of no-res. Cover it and cut out circles for speakers?


Danny Richie

Re: XLS Encore assembly questions
« Reply #1 on: 8 Dec 2019, 02:07 am »
You can easily install the crossover and all of the No Rez through the woofer hole.

And apply No Rez everywhere, except the front baffle (nothing left of it to resonant), and where you place the crossover. I mount the crossover first and then if there is room you can add a thin strip of No Rez in front of it.

Peter J

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Re: XLS Encore assembly questions
« Reply #2 on: 8 Dec 2019, 03:20 am »
VVC, I imagine one could apply the No Rez prior to assembly, but I wouldn't encourage it for a first build. I think it would add complexity that would be better saved for later. Some larger cabinets have inaccessible areas once box is assembled...I suspect that's what you've seen.  The way I designed this, it's better to do all assembly in one fell swoop just like I show in video. As Danny pointed out, No Rez and crossover are easily installed later.

I'd encourage a couple of things. Do a dry run to get the rhythm and sequence of assembly down before adding glue to the equation. Run screws in and out of pilot hole for crossover board before cabinet assembly. That way when you go to put the  board in place inside box, the threads will already be cut and make insertion that much easier.

Bear in mind that the No Rez doesn't have to be in large continuous pieces. The effectiveness will be the same if you installed a side in, say, four quadrants.  It also doesn't have to be pretty to be effective nor does it have to cover 100% of a panel. It's about how it damps the panel resonance, not so much continuous coverage. Make sure surface is free of dust, and be deliberate when you place it, the adhesive is really aggressive which makes repositioning a bunch harder.  I do dry runs here as well, to make sure what I've cut fits before pulling release paper off.

Captainhemo

Re: XLS Encore assembly questions
« Reply #3 on: 9 Dec 2019, 05:44 pm »
The woofer hole/cutout is  5.875"  so  keep your cross over board  around  the  5.5"  mark so there is a  little wiggle room when you  slip it  through the  cutout. It isn't  difficutl to get it in.
Another  tip on the no rez is rub it down with as much preasure as you  can after  you  have it positioned... it's preasure sensitive  adhesive so the  more  it's   "pushed"  the more it  sticks.   
I think this is importa

jaynt especially  with the raw MDF
Enjoy  your  build   :)

Gearguy

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Re: XLS Encore assembly questions
« Reply #4 on: 10 Dec 2019, 02:51 am »
VWC,

Not having the wisdom of these posts, I applied the No-Res prior to assembly. I wanted to be sure it was stuck down. It did work out ok, but Peter is correct, the brace installation and assembly was more complicated. One of my braces didn't adhere and I had to to reglue it... a bit messy.

Be sure you have enough clamps. I don't think you can ever have too many... at least eight for one cabinet. Have fun!

Jmitchell3

Re: XLS Encore assembly questions
« Reply #5 on: 10 Dec 2019, 03:30 am »
The woofer hole/cutout is  5.875"  so  keep your cross over board  around  the  5.5"  mark so there is a  little wiggle room when you  slip it  through the  cutout. It isn't  difficutl to get it in.
Another  tip on the no rez is rub it down with as much preasure as you  can after  you  have it positioned... it's preasure sensitive  adhesive so the  more  it's   "pushed"  the more it  sticks.   
I think this is importa

jaynt especially  with the raw MDF
Enjoy  your  build   :)

Is that woofer hole size  different than the 5.75” on the build plans on the website? I’m probably missing something...

Danny Richie

Re: XLS Encore assembly questions
« Reply #6 on: 10 Dec 2019, 04:34 am »
Is that woofer hole size  different than the 5.75” on the build plans on the website? I’m probably missing something...

You're right. It's 5.75".

Captainhemo

Re: XLS Encore assembly questions
« Reply #7 on: 11 Dec 2019, 06:00 pm »
Sorry,  I have the   .875  burned into my head  from   entering   the  radius (2.875")

jay