Do Jitter Reduction Devices Help?

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hmen

Do Jitter Reduction Devices Help?
« on: 22 Jun 2003, 07:51 pm »
I was wondering if anybody could share their experiences with, or opinions of jitter recduction devices. I just saw one on audiogon pretty cheap and picked it up. It's the MSB Digital Director and it claims to reduce jitter by 99.99%. I figure even if it doesn't help the system sound better I can still use it's digital switching facility so it won't be a total loss.   My system consists of a Yamaha CD player, MSB dac, AES/Cary Super Preamp DJH, 2 Decware Zen Triode Amps and VMPS RM2. Will I actually notice a difference or am I setting myself up for the placebo effect? A while back I wouldn't have doubted that it would help but the I've read so many posts about miracle tweaks and devices that I'm beginng to question everything.

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« Reply #1 on: 22 Jun 2003, 08:43 pm »
hmen,

I think the value of the MSB Digital Decoder is far more effective as a digital source switcher versus a jitter reducer.  Any digital in -> digital out component has receivers (one to input the digital sound, and one to output the digital signal).  Anytime you're inputting and outputting digital signals, there's going to be a minimal level of jitter present.  

This amount of jitter is not going to be any less (most likely more) than a current generation $300-400 audiophile CD player (versus DVD/CD player).  
In fact, given the age of the technology of the Digital Director, you're probably better off with a newer CD player if the concern is where to budget your funds.

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« Reply #2 on: 22 Jun 2003, 09:02 pm »
You will get better sound improvement and cleaner, less fatiguing presentation if you use a proper power filter.  I am auditioning the DeZorel that's going around here and have been totally impressed by its performance.  Also, damping vibrations in your CDP/transport will reduce edginess and glare.  Dynamat Extreme works really well--also good cones like the \ones I use (Goldmund).

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« Reply #3 on: 22 Jun 2003, 09:02 pm »
You will get better sound improvement and cleaner, less fatiguing presentation if you use a proper power filter.  I am auditioning the DeZorel that's going around here and have been totally impressed by its performance.  Also, damping vibrations in your CDP/transport will reduce edginess and glare.  Dynamat Extreme works really well--also good cones like the ones I use (Goldmund).

hmen

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« Reply #4 on: 22 Jun 2003, 09:46 pm »
Psychicanimal - What is Dynamat Extreme and where do I get it? Thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: 22 Jun 2003, 11:11 pm »
Dynamat Extreme is a vibration dampening material sold for car audio applications.  Works exremely well and can be purchased from Crutchfield or any good car stereo equipment dealer.

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« Reply #6 on: 22 Jun 2003, 11:15 pm »
Another thing to consider is after-market clocks. I use Guido Tentś XO which also has a facility for improving performance on SPDIF connections.

Not sure this is what you're after though.

Rocket

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« Reply #7 on: 23 Jun 2003, 01:26 am »
hi,

is there a website for this clock.

regards

rocket

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« Reply #8 on: 23 Jun 2003, 01:27 am »
h-

I'd expect many newer dacs will have better jitter reduction than an older dedicated units pluged in between dac and transport. Wwithout knowing your set-up, who knows what tweaks, cords etc. may improve your sound! What are you using?

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« Reply #9 on: 23 Jun 2003, 01:39 am »
Psychicanimal-do you have any suggestion on how to properly setup with cones, 3 or 4 cones?  What if the bottom CDP isn't flat.  What to do in this case?

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« Reply #10 on: 23 Jun 2003, 01:57 am »
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Psychicanimal-do you have any suggestion on how to properly setup with cones, 3 or 4 cones?  What if the bottom CDP isn't flat.  What to do in this case?

regards,
-Howard


Almost always use three cones vs four.  All you need to do is find the flat spots in the underside of your CDP.  If you can't, then you can use a specialty shelf as suport and cones under.  Make it work!

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« Reply #11 on: 23 Jun 2003, 07:08 am »
Another, cheaper option (particularly handy if the bottom of your component isn't flat) is here...