VH Audio, Ridge St or Audience for XLR ICs

JoshK · « **Reply #20 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 01:30 am »

Quote from: kana813

With the amp and speakers JoshK uses, it not surprising he doesn't like them.

That's right, they revealed their blatant flaw. Too revealing of a setup. I've heard them more than one time on my system and more than one system.

mcrespo71 · « **Reply #21 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 03:53 am »

For what it's worth, I love the sound of the Audience AU24 cables, though I don't own them. Just trust your ears.

Michael

Psychicanimal · « **Reply #22 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 11:43 am »

Quote from: JoshK

I am going to say something that is very non-audiophile kosher, but be very weary of cables that effect the audioband to any great degree. I think your gear is top notch so I think you should avoid tuning or taming your system with cables. I would try to focus on cables that let your system be your system and try to make the cables 'unnoticeable'.

The most sensible comment so far...

If power delivery, vibration control and room acoustics are not dealt with properly one will end with *Band Aid* cables. That's why I think the Audience is so popular. Highly revealling silver cables like the VenHaus and Ridge Street will be ruled out. So will be the *emotional* component of the music.

What'll be left is great "Hi Fi" sound...

My system deals sucessfully with all the above and is 100% solid state and 100% silver wiring througout (silver plated copper speaker wire) past the DAC (Pulsar digital). It can be done, but it takes effort. Nobody can give recipes. It's all system dependent, individual-driven and a slow process. Take it or leave it.

doug s. · « **Reply #23 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 05:29 pm »

i am firmly in the camp of using cabling that is as revealing & as neutral as possible. which is why i like the pure silver alphacore cabling. it does nothing but pass the signal, imo. haven't heard these others, so i can't comment on them. but, i have no desire to change, either,

& the alpha-core cables are somewhat reasonably priced, even new. used, they're a bargain, imo...

doug s.

Bingenito · « **Reply #24 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 05:29 pm »

BTW- what the hell is a monkey coffin?

doug s. · « **Reply #25 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 05:31 pm »

Quote from: Bingenito

BTW- what the hell is a monkey coffin?

it's a derogatory (to some folks) comment about speakers that are big boxes...

doug s.

JoshK · « **Reply #26 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 05:45 pm »

Quote from: kana813

"Um....first off you didn't sell me the RS cable plans."

JoshK- If you're the same JoshK that works for the MS wire house, than
I sold you the plans. Instead of cash, I asked for some CDs I couldn't find locally. Still wondering if the big screen between the big speakers improves their imaging?

Exactly, that isn't exactly selling now is it? The big screen is about 4 feet behind the speakers. No problems with imaging as many can attest to.

I don't work for MS wire house. I work for Morgan Stanley Investment Mgmt.

Bingenito · « **Reply #27 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 09:27 pm »

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Well then, let's go make the decision for Benito:

Get the Audience!!!

Wow... That is what I have been waiting for all along someone who can strongly recommend something. Now try being serious about it.

People that are indecisive or refuse to take a firm stance irritate me.

This is not directed towards anyone in particular but I have noticed that someone will ask a question about gear and get flooded with responses that XYZ product is system dependant, blah, blah, blah.

Since synergy is important can we all agree that just about everything is system dependant and stop responding stating the obvious just for the sake of responding?

If you have heard the cable, amp, preamp, etc what associated equipment did you use and what did you think of it compared to similar products.

Since we cannot afford to try every product or product combination we have to rely on others who share the same interests to provide some guidance. I think that is one of the reasons forums like this exist in the first place but I could be wrong.

JoshK · « **Reply #28 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 09:41 pm »

Sorry for being off topic Bryan. I stated my opinion and it isn't without a lot of experience to back it up. Others have stated theirs and I didn't crap on them for their opinion because that is theirs to own. *

Try out the cables that you are receiving from Wayne and if you still have the Audience on hand, test them out in comparison. If you like the Audience better, fine that is your opinion to live it. Is it wrong? No, I might not agree with it but we each have our own criteria. I knew that you were looking for cables that would make the least impact on the sound of your system and in my experience those are not the Audience. This was advice, take it for what its worth. *

* Edits by Carlman. I had to edit out some sensitive info here.

Bingenito · « **Reply #29 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 10:05 pm »

My comment was directed to people who do not contribute. Josh, Zybar and a few others have been very helpful.

Bingenito · « **Reply #30 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 10:40 pm »

OK the rest of the thread has been moved to fight club because some people can't get along and play nice with others.

Hard to believe the topic of interconnects can have that affect but o well.

Wayne from Boulder Cable is sending me 2 pairs of balanced summits. I plan to borrow 2 pairs of Ascoustic Zen Silver Ref II and maybe some Au24s.

Thank you to all that have contributed!

Carlman · « **Reply #31 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 10:51 pm »

Bin... just trying to help keep the thread to the subject at hand. I tried to be fair and have the thread still make sense.

It's rare that a cable discussion stays civil. I wonder if there's a cooking forum where people argue about the type of flour they use to make noodles?

Bingenito · « **Reply #32 on:** 2 Nov 2004, 11:10 pm »

Wow normally you have to resort to momma jokes. I will take your word that cable comments are just as effective in starting a fight.

Thanks for cleaning things up!

Bingenito · « **Reply #33 on:** 3 Nov 2004, 12:16 am »

Cyrotweaks is sending me 2 pairs of balanced CT Silver Reference MKII for demo.

It will be interesting to compare the Boulder Summits to the Cyrotweaks.

Anyone local to Charlotte, NC have a few pairs of balanced cables they would like to bring by for a

If so we can schedule a date. I would prefer to keep the demo limited to a couple of people that bring cables and music.

Marbles · « **Reply #34 on:** 3 Nov 2004, 12:30 am »

Quote from: Bingenito

Cyrotweaks is sending me 2 pairs of balanced CT Silver Reference MKII for demo.

It will be interesting to compare the Boulder Summits to the Cyrotweaks.

Anyone local to Charlotte, NC have a few pairs of balanced cables they would like to bring by for a If so we can schedule a date. I would prefer to keep the demo limited to a couple of people that bring cables and music.

I've just heard the single ended versions of both cables and think if the balanced are as good, you will be VERY pleased with both.

TheChairGuy · « **Reply #35 on:** 3 Nov 2004, 04:41 am »

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have you tried alpha-core tq2-ag? *extremely* neutral, imo, & not too spendy, especially if ya find 'em used...

doug s.

I haven't heard much of what you guys are talking (nor really want to spend too much time auditioning IC's), but I mostly agree with doug s. on this one. The Alpha-Cores TQ2's are awfully good on several set-ups I've had here...the top end has great substance, in particular, and the rest is very acceptable.

Cheap, too, at $125 or so a 0.5 meter and, I think, $180 for a meter. Perhaps best of all, no (like zero) break-in time to enjoy, or not enjoy, it.

Ulas · « **Reply #36 on:** 3 Nov 2004, 07:11 pm »

Bingenito, I’d like to know how you narrowed your interconnect choice to the three finalist you listed when you started this thread and why you decided to rely in the recommendations of strangers to make your final choice?

Bingenito · « **Reply #37 on:** 4 Nov 2004, 02:55 am »

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Bingenito, I’d like to know how you narrowed your interconnect choice to the three finalist you listed when you started this thread and why you decided to rely in the recommendations of strangers to make your final choice?

The list of three cables were based on what I have heard and recommendations from others.

No final choice has been made