Got rid of my rack

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JLM

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Got rid of my rack
« on: 8 Jul 2015, 12:23 pm »
At the beginning of 2015 I had an Ikea nightstand (about 20 inches x 20 inches x 15 inches deep) with a total of four shelves located in the center of the front wall filled with gear.  The nightstand is heavily built, super cheap, and after mounting the caster posts left the wheels off to provide "spikes".  After downsizing I'm left with small remote controlled DAC/pre and pair of mono-blocks.  Room/near-field setup follows Cardas so speakers/chair are in a 68 inch equilateral triangle with the chair about 10 feet from the front wall in a 8 ft x 13 ft x 21 ft room.  Six GIK 244 panels are located in front corners and at first front/side wall reflection points.

My tiny rack was looking stupidly bare.  Note that I use an iMac via long/cheap optical cable from the office in the back of the room or a MacBook via 3 meter USB cable from the listening chair.  Was reminded from my readings that bass energy builds up in room corners and intersections of walls to walls/floor/ceilings) and accordingly found a 44 inch length of shelving left over from our house build.  Amateurishly added spikes and a few coats of finish (don't make me try to post an image) for a simple support of the DAC/pre-amp and mono-blocks that I pulled a couple of feet away from the wall/floor intersection.  Thought about buying a "real" big boy audiophile approved 2 inch thick custom maple shelf but decided to try this "proof of concept" (cheap) solution first.  Note that I've tried various tweaks over the years with results varying from no to nearly no improvements.  If you call this a tweak, it's the best I've ever tried (not a tweak-alcoholic,  but have tried a variety with almost zero effect).

The look now is more audiophile approved (wires all over the floor) but more importantly after 40 years in audio I've got my first "low rider" component setup (it'd been years since I'd seen purist/nuts lay all their gear across the floor and chuckled as I imaged them playing twister trying to get to each component).  With this simple system wires aren't bunched up and are laid out (directly on the carpet - gasp) to minimize crossings and to do it at 90 degree angles.  But the soundstage that frankly had been strangely/disappointingly small has blossomed to fill the space between speakers.  I'm very pleasantly surprised the difference that moving from a tiny rack to no rack has made.  Try it!   :scratch:    :thumb:
« Last Edit: 9 Jul 2015, 10:55 pm by JLM »

jimtranr

Re: Got rid of my rack
« Reply #1 on: 9 Jul 2015, 02:32 am »
I'd love to try it, but I'm afraid the gear I have to house won't allow that minimalist a setup. Nonetheless, I'm going have to sit down and design and build at least a semi-lowboy rack to reduce the speaker boundary interference response issues which afflict the right front corner of my listening--er, living/dining--room. Hope to have a wrap on that project by end of summer. Your post just added impetus to that goal.

Phil A

Re: Got rid of my rack
« Reply #2 on: 9 Jul 2015, 02:36 am »
I have a lower rack in the new place (vs. what I had in the old) and yes it has helped.  I've simplified the integrated 2-channel/HT too so there are a couple of less things vs. the old set-up but it is worth it.

Early B.

Re: Got rid of my rack
« Reply #3 on: 9 Jul 2015, 05:22 am »
I recently dismantled an audio rack that was just to the right and behind the right speaker. I put the amp on the floor and stacked the other components on the rear wall in a built-in cabinet. Better sound now emanates from that corner of the room. It wasn't a free upgrade because I had to buy a 2M IC cable from the amp to the pre. I'd love to put all of my components on the floor in between the speakers and in front of the fireplace mantle, but that idea quickly got vetoed by you-know-who.   

JackD201

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« Reply #4 on: 9 Jul 2015, 05:48 am »
I remember the feeling well JLM. In my old place I had no choice but to put the racks between the speakers. When we moved I was finally able to move source and pre to my left hand side leaving only the mono blocks in the middle. The improvement in soundstage very easily made up for the need to have long ICs to the amps. Perhaps leaving just the amps in front will be your next step. Crouching is hell on the back and we're not getting any younger!  :green:

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Re: Got rid of my rack
« Reply #5 on: 9 Jul 2015, 10:48 am »
With laptop source (on my lap), remote control on the DAC/pre-amp, and very energy efficient digital mono-blocks the setup doesn't require any bending over.   :thumb:

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Re: Got rid of my rack
« Reply #6 on: 9 Jul 2015, 12:38 pm »

Glad to hear your results. If I have gear in between the speakers it's at floor level. But my normal is to have 25' of speaker cable and put the gear off to the side. People have no idea how much they are messing up their soundstage with a tower of gear in between their speakers, reflecting sound.


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Re: Got rid of my rack
« Reply #7 on: 9 Jul 2015, 03:33 pm »
With laptop source (on my lap), remote control on the DAC/pre-amp, and very energy efficient digital mono-blocks the setup doesn't require any bending over.   :thumb:

Nice  :thumb: