Method of calculating enclosure

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Vimarmot

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Method of calculating enclosure
« on: 31 Jan 2015, 05:55 am »
I have a couple of 15inch sub woofers that i took out of my old house (ib sub)  that i'd like to try in a box configuration.  Ive calculated the volume required from the speaker specs.  My issue is i dont know how to transfer this to width, length and height.  Anybody provide a website or guide on how to do this?

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Re: Method of calculating enclosure
« Reply #1 on: 3 Feb 2015, 05:47 pm »
 I always took the width x length x depth to come up with sq inches. One hundred and forty  four sq. inches equals a sq foot. Is that what you needed? If not let me know. Some people will tell you that the room behind the driver doesn't matter but, it does. I always tried to keep the depth at least 150% of the driver depth, from mounting ring to back of the magnet. That depth isn't written in stone though, it's just my personal goal when I start out. Depending on the place you have to set them up can cause a change in any dimension, but what you subtract from any dimension has to be added to another dimension and that could be confusing since the other two dimensions are different. If you'll remember that when you subtract a certain amount of sq. inches from one dimension it has to be made up for those sq. inches elsewhere.
I hope I haven't confused you even more.  Year's ago I built subs to fit in some tight places in personal vehicles. I got Vance Dickerson's? The loudspeaker cook book and honed in on the info on subs. They are still publishing newer versions of The cook book so, you may want to get one. When I bought mine it was about $30. May have been some of the best money I ever spent.
One question. Is the total Q of the driver/drivers in the range of the type of box you'd like to build. If I recall correctly a driver that works in a sealed enclosure needs to be in a certain range of total Q. A driver spec'd for a ported sub will usually not be the best one for a sealed or open baffle application. If I recall correctly the total Q of a driver spec'd for a sealed enclosure is pretty close to the total Q of an open baffle application also. If you buy the cook book you won't have to depend on much from other's. The cook book will advise on what type of sound you like by a Q number. The lower the Q, this Q isn't the same total Q of the driver, the tighter the sub will sound., boomy-tight bass. I've built boxes that would give a Q of .3-1.5. I always liked a Q of .6-.7 for vehicles as the cabin gain would help give  8-10db of more output than it setting in open space. Remember though that the smaller the enclosure the more power you'll need and the low end output will suffer also. I generally like a home sub Q of apprx. .5-.6. I can't stand much bass from 80-130hertz, as those frequencies really bother me.
 

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Re: Method of calculating enclosure
« Reply #2 on: 3 Feb 2015, 06:00 pm »
I always took the width x length x depth to come up with sq inches.

Sorry Harley, but WxLxD= cubic inches. 
Regardless, this isn't hard.  You say you have a recommended volume- convert it to cubic inches.  Take the width of the woofer and add an 1-2 inches to make sure the baffle is wide enough for it to fit into comfortably (don't forget to take into account the width of the lumber as it overlaps), pick a length, and solve for depth. Add as necessary for internal braces.
V= WxLxD  so D=v/wl

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Re: Method of calculating enclosure
« Reply #3 on: 3 Feb 2015, 06:11 pm »
There are a number of speaker enclosure calculators available online, such as this one:

http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Calculator/Volume/

It takes into account material thickness, driver and port displacement, etc.  It will take a bit of trial and error inputting dimensions to arrive at the specified volume, but once you do you can then start varying a particular dimension (you might have a certain width, height or depth requirement for example) then change the other dimension(s) until you arrive back to the desired volume.

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Re: Method of calculating enclosure
« Reply #4 on: 3 Feb 2015, 06:22 pm »
Sclark,
 That's what happens when I try to explain something as simple, to us, yet going from brain to keyboard stuff happens. Btw, when I was building subs I didn't have the luxury of pc program. Pc's where just starting to come to market for mass consumption. I gotta get out of the 90's. And here I thought I had. Still the cookbook will make most all of this fairly simple.
I forgot this, but Danny at the GR circle is very knowledgeable on most things related to speakers. He's probably forgotten more than I have remembered.

Vimarmot

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Re: Method of calculating enclosure
« Reply #5 on: 3 Feb 2015, 08:27 pm »
I started with the Q that the drivers recommended and then calculated the volume with that in mind.  I kind of wanted a couple of coffee table type boxes, but was unsure how to best figure out the true best dimensions.  The above has given me some ideas, and I'll work from there.  Thanks very much.

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Re: Method of calculating enclosure
« Reply #6 on: 4 Feb 2015, 08:42 pm »
 I went with what I know about subs and just zoned out about using software to figure it out. :scratch: If you haven't been in this hobby/sickness for a while then familiarize yourself with the hobby before adventuring into speaker building. Good luck and check back if something is confusing. I had to go over some sections of the cookbook 2,3 times before I got it to become kinda simple.

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Re: Method of calculating enclosure
« Reply #7 on: 4 Feb 2015, 08:56 pm »
I have a couple of 15inch sub woofers that i took out of my old house (ib sub)  that i'd like to try in a box configuration.  Ive calculated the volume required from the speaker specs.  My issue is i dont know how to transfer this to width, length and height.  Anybody provide a website or guide on how to do this?
What is the volume you found?
What is the baffle cutout hole for this woofer?