Why did you purchase a tower speaker over a monitor?

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JerryLove

Re: Why did you purchase a tower speaker over a monitor?
« Reply #20 on: 9 Jan 2014, 06:09 pm »
What led you to decide to buy a tower instead of a monitor? [Allow me to clarify a bit. I'm not asking why you chose a SS8 over a Silk monitor. I'm asking why an SS8 over the M7 monitor; Silk Tower over the Silk monitor; Veracity HT-1 TL over Veracity HT-1, etc.]  Did you feel there was a difference in sound? Was it purely esthetics? Was it a space limitation? Greater efficiency? Heck, did ego play a part?
Because I heard and fell in love with the SCST.

The Silk monitor, still unnamed at that point, was in the same room. Why didn't I get that.

1) Sounded constrained. This might have been resolved with a sub (likely was), but I *knew* what the SCST sounded like.
2) Would have needed stands. Not only would that have hurt the aesthetic, but would have driven up the cost to match the (more capable) SCST.

I bought towers because.
1) The speaker I happened to fall in love with was a tower.
2) The tower saved me getting stands.

dflee

Re: Why did you purchase a tower speaker over a monitor?
« Reply #21 on: 10 Jan 2014, 02:38 am »
You need to hear it done right.

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Re: Why did you purchase a tower speaker over a monitor?
« Reply #22 on: 10 Jan 2014, 09:55 am »
As case for monitors:

Love TL, but too much can overload your room (had monster/great TL's 30 years ago that only sounded good in 20,000 cu. ft.).  Note that TL monitors exist (that sound extremely good).

According to Floyd E. Toole (recommend reading 'Sound Reproduction') in-room bass can only done correctly with multiple subwoofers spread around the room (search AC for 'swam').


One point against monitors not mentioned is 'tip over'.  Years ago my 5 pound cat knocked over a 10"x10"x20" speaker on 12" stands.  With Jim and his customization potential, the simply answer is to build matching/weighted pedestals that are integrated or fastened to the monitors.

Gzerro

Re: Why did you purchase a tower speaker over a monitor?
« Reply #23 on: 10 Jan 2014, 05:53 pm »
As case for monitors:

Love TL, but too much can overload your room (had monster/great TL's 30 years ago that only sounded good in 20,000 cu. ft.).  Note that TL monitors exist (that sound extremely good).

According to Floyd E. Toole (recommend reading 'Sound Reproduction') in-room bass can only done correctly with multiple subwoofers spread around the room (search AC for 'swam').


"Only done correctly" I think is an exaggeration of what Toole intended. I doubt Mr. Toole would say people listening to a pair of tower speakers are "doing it wrong". He was primarily focused on obtaining an even bass response at all listening positions in a room, which doesn't necessarily apply to rooms setup primarily for one or two listeners.

For many, having a less than flat bass response is an acceptable trade-off for eliminating the expense, added complexity and aesthetic issues subwoofers present. In many rooms is possible to get a reasonably flat bass response at the primary listening position without subwoofers, especially if you use some sort of room EQ (although flat response around the entire room is admittedly more difficult).

In terms of the OPs question of Towers vs Monitors, using Tower speakers doesn't eliminate the possibility of adding subwoofers. In some rooms the option of a lower cross-over point may be an advantage, and a larger cabinet often brings greater efficiency. In the case of Salk speakers, the beautiful veneer work just doesn't look as impressive on a monitor as on a tower.

That being said, I love my two Salk Subwoofers. I just wouldn't go so far as to say monitors + subs it is the "only correct solution" for 100% of listeners and rooms.

As in all things there are trade-offs and compromises.


Paul K.

Re: Why did you purchase a tower speaker over a monitor?
« Reply #24 on: 10 Jan 2014, 07:02 pm »
I don't believe that TLs overload rooms anymore than any other kind of bass enclosure design and I can't imagine that many people have 8-foot high rooms that are 50 feet on each side, or whatever other dimensions are needed to get to your 20,000 ft3 number! :o  Additionally some people have claimed that TL bass is slow (????) or, that, TLs don't sound good in rooms with 8-foot ceilings.   What's most important, based on my design and building experience, to getting articulate bass out of a TL is the overall shape of the bass response and how much BSC is used.  Now for my disclaimer:  I might be blessed because in the last two homes I've lived in since 1991, in which I started building and using TL speakers I've designed, my audio rooms have been the living rooms, and both had/have 2-story, sloped ceilings.  OTOH, when I take my DIY TL speakers to various events, their bass reproduction sound just the same and just as good in those different venues (often with 8-foot to 10-foot ceilings) as they do in my home.
Paul

As case for monitors:

Love TL, but too much can overload your room (had monster/great TL's 30 years ago that only sounded good in 20,000 cu. ft.).  Note that TL monitors exist (that sound extremely good).

According to Floyd E. Toole (recommend reading 'Sound Reproduction') in-room bass can only done correctly with multiple subwoofers spread around the room (search AC for 'swam').


One point against monitors not mentioned is 'tip over'.  Years ago my 5 pound cat knocked over a 10"x10"x20" speaker on 12" stands.  With Jim and his customization potential, the simply answer is to build matching/weighted pedestals that are integrated or fastened to the monitors.