Things I'd like to see from Bryston

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Kei

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« on: 14 Jul 2004, 11:39 pm »
I know this goes against most audiophile thinking but I'd buy it if only Bryston made it...

An EQ... either analog or digital, but preferably digital...
 
or even better...

Tone controls (ie. bass/treble) on the preamps/integrateds...

or even better...
 
a 5-band equalizer on the new B100 integrated!

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« Reply #1 on: 15 Jul 2004, 10:10 am »
Come to think of it, isn't it time for a new 2 channel pre-amp?

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« Reply #2 on: 15 Jul 2004, 10:27 am »
If you're going to get into digital EQ then there's an awful lot more you can do than just add a tone control. Even a 31-band graphic equaliser is just scratching the surface of what's possible. You really want things like:
  • Parametric EQ
  • Dynamic EQ (i.e. parametric, but depending on volume as well as frequency)
  • Correction for listening to soundtracks at less than reference volumes
  • And for the ultimate, you need something like a TACT system that can correct in the time domain as well the frequency domain.[/list:u]But sadly James T doesn't seem to be a big fan of EQ functions. To some extent I understand why. He's right to say, for example, that to attempt to correct for room effects by adjusting the signal can be a problem, on the grounds that it only works well at one particular point in the room. But if I were listening alone, that wouldn't be an issue!

    But, more than that, I'd love to see the ability to adjust to different loudspeaker frequency response curves, or (as mentioned above) compensate for the effect on speakers and on the ear of playing a movie at less than reference volume.

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« Reply #3 on: 15 Jul 2004, 08:58 pm »
A simple dynamic adjustment for loudness with volume to compensate for Fletcher-Munson would be such great thing. I just can't get myself to watch movies at reference levels and damage my hearing just to recreate the right sound.

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« Reply #4 on: 15 Jul 2004, 09:00 pm »
A dvd player would be nice

nicolasb

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« Reply #5 on: 16 Jul 2004, 10:30 am »
Quote from: thxultra
A dvd player would be nice

Oh, well, if we're going to mention things in this thread other than EQ, then there's loads of things one might wish for. :)
  • A DVD player, and a digital connection (HDMI or Firewire) to allow encrypted DVD-A to be converted (and e.g. bass-managed) in the SP1.7. Possibly SACD-compatibility. Possibly HD-DVD or BluRay. Definitely with some kind of digital video output, such as HDMI. (SDI is potentially even better, but there are legal issues!)
  • The same upsampling (and, thereby, jitter removal) stage on the SP1.7's digital inputs as is currently found in the BP25DA and B60DA.
  • 5.1 A/D conversion and bass management.
  • Interesting post-processing algorithms like Logic 7, Trifield....
  • Independent cross-over frequencies for each channel.
  • Fix the "lose stuff in the LFE channel if your cross-over frequency is below 80Hz" issue.
  • Dolby Headphone.
  • A stereo downmix at the tape output (with optional Dolby Headphone processing) regardless of what the main 7 channels are doing.[/list:u]

    And loads of other things. But they've probably all been raised in other threads!  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #6 on: 16 Jul 2004, 01:32 pm »
Quote from: thxultra
A dvd player would be nice


I am assuming that it would be a high-end DVD player with the best picture and sound combined.  It should also cost $250.  :lol:

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« Reply #7 on: 16 Jul 2004, 02:49 pm »
Quote from: Levi
Quote from: thxultra
A dvd player would be nice


I am assuming that it would be a high-end DVD player with the best picture and sound combined.  It should also cost $250.  :lol:

We-ell, maybe what they ought to do is produce a digital-only player designed to work with an SP1.7, connecting to it with an aysnchronous, high-bandwidth digital link (e.g. Firewire).

See, then you can omit audio DACs entirely, omit video DACs entirely, forget about all forms of output port except SDI for video and the aforementioned audio firewire output, not bother with any deinterlacing circuitry, forget about the need to eliminate jitter on the audio output, and eliminate any digital processing other than MPEG-2 decoding (e.g. stereo downmixing of 5.1, etc.)

You could probably make a damn good player and sell it for $250 if it was designed like that. But not that many people would actually buy it. :(

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« Reply #8 on: 17 Jul 2004, 02:32 am »
I've always wanted to see a high end Bryston analog tuner.  I believe it would make a great addition to their lineup and would take a profitable chunk of market share.  Many Bryston system owners would snap them up and, if well designed sonically and aesthetically, would introduce tuner fans around the world to the Bryston family (perhaps garnering more business for their existing products  :wink:

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« Reply #9 on: 17 Jul 2004, 08:01 am »
Yeah! And a DAB tuner would be cool too!  :)

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« Reply #10 on: 17 Jul 2004, 11:21 am »
Can we not just settle for a DVD/CD transport with perhaps HDMI.  Forget SACD & DVD-Audio.  Let's keep those as options.

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« Reply #11 on: 18 Jul 2004, 10:27 pm »
Quote from: BeeBop
Come to think of it, isn't it time for a new 2 channel pre-amp?


I'm with you, a really nice hi-end preamp.  The good ol' BP25 isn't bad but it's not as good as the amps (although I hear the BP-25DAC is some hot stuff).

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« Reply #12 on: 10 Aug 2004, 12:23 pm »
Yeah I see there is a lot of Bryston aficionados here.  But I think before making a DVD or anything else Bryston should have amended one or two current designs.  Namely:

1. A headphone amp in BP25 - thin, bright sound easily beaten by a cheap dedicated headphone amp like an old Audio Alchemy.

2. Binding posts to accept large spades  from Cardas and other reputed manufacturers - dtch that stupid Canadian safety regulations! ( i think it has amended in some newer models).

3. Two (actually I would like to see three) pairs of speaker outputs to allow a better Bi-/tri- amping.

3. A better and bigger outboard power supply and a better quality chord leading to a pre-amp.

4. Try to use less negative feedback and finally accept that a pin-point 3D soundstage whic most studio enginees do not care of is actually an attribute of every high-end SS (apart from Bryston).

5. Please add  "right" and "left" to amp outputs No1 and No 2 , I am tired of guessing which is which.  

Having said hat all kudos to Bryston for a great gear, it might have been lot worse.

Oh, yes, and please extend your transferrable warranty to 50 yeas, 20 is not enough, isn't it? My grandson may have got into troubles with my amp some day - it's NOT FAIR!!!

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« Reply #13 on: 11 Aug 2004, 11:55 am »
Point to be made:

To suggest that 3-dimensional soundstaging is not a concern of recording engineers is simply not corrrect. I learned about 3D from my experience with recording engineers in studios over 30 years ago. Long before my audiophile friends even understood what the term meant.

james