Rush: Moving Pictures 24bit/96KHz HD Tracks download!

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Tony1

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« Reply #20 on: 11 Apr 2011, 06:04 am »
Is there any difference between the Bluray and DVDA versions? or do both have the same resolution?

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« Reply #21 on: 13 Apr 2011, 09:18 pm »
Is there any difference between the Bluray and DVDA versions? or do both have the same resolution?

The DVD-A contains 96/24 PCM (both 2-channel + 5.1) plus a Dolby Digital 5.1 track.

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« Reply #22 on: 14 Apr 2011, 07:16 pm »
Just got this...

I initially had this on vinyl when I had a TT rig and I was very sad to not be able to listen to this album with the quality I had on vinyl when I sold my TT and vinyl rig.

I only have MAC, so I didn't know how to rip the DVD-A, so for 18 dollars I said what the hell, and made my first foray into digital downloading with HDtracks...

I used MAXX to convert the FLAC to 24bit AIFF, and have been streaming it to my PS Audio Perfect Wave Bridge/DAC.

The sound is just as good as I remember it from the vinyl, without all the clicks and pops that were rampant on my 20 year old copy that I had bought used from a garage sale.

I think the high end extension is where I am noticing the most difference between this version and the other digital copy of this album that I have.

I have always been gravely disappointed with the Moving Pictures CD that I own in terms of sound quality compared to the original vinyl.

All I can say now is that I hope that every record company jumps on board and starts making all of the music in 24bit/96+.

The difference is excellent, and I can't stop streaming this thing over and over again.
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I am going to stalk HDtracks for more stuff that I might enjoy listening to.

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« Reply #23 on: 14 Apr 2011, 08:01 pm »
I can highly recommend some of the 192K recordings from 2L, they are excellently recorded and will certainly show you how good Hi-Rez downloads can be.

My last visit to the HDTracks site cost me $300 for a bunch of Hi-Rez albums, but it was worth it :thumb:

werd

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« Reply #24 on: 26 Apr 2011, 10:32 pm »
This is a hi rez reference. I have two hard copies of this recording. I used both to compare. The redbook was transfered to wav. using EAC. This is a cd wav. from a copy of this recording i bought years ago. The other is the recently released DVD -A. I used DVD audio extractor to put these files on my HD. Both are wav. One is 2496 and the other 1644.

Back to back the difference  is night and day. The hi rez is best described as clean and powerful. The redbook sounds crammed and confused. Where it really hits home are in Neil's drums. In hirez his snare is king. Its godly - it really is. He is the pacemaker god. Its take the beats and points the song in the forward direction. everything seems bound around it. Absolute musical masterpiece. It shows how great Neil is at keeping a beat and yet showing off with intricate drum rolls. Its so good. The redbook is good but it does a lot less for Neil's presence. His drum kit is there but it seems to fight for control over everything else.

I love this hi rez and its great to show off the differences between redbook and hi rez.

kenreau

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« Reply #25 on: 27 Apr 2011, 09:54 pm »
MPs' is one of my favorite Rush albums. 

Fwiw, this past year, I was on a quest to get the complete Rush catalog for my music library.  Hanging out at the SH forum, I read the best sounding digitial versions of most of their albums (pre-1990's +/-) were reportedly the original / earlier CDs from either Anthem Records Canadian or original West Germany Mercury "Atomic" CD's (A number of them share the exact mastering). 

I already had most of the titles on the early and  mid-90's "remasters" series.  As mentioned here as well, most of the CDs sound quality leaves a lot to be desired.  Flat, cold, compressed, sterile sq.  While still not ideal, the Anthem and W.German Atomics are significantly better sounding than any of the versions or "remasters" I had.  Less compression & probably earlier generation of source tapes are the typical reasons given.  Short of a high quality needle drop from a nice early vinyl pressing, these are reportedly as good as they get...  until now?

Werd - I'm curious, which redbook CD pressing version were you using for comparison?  I've really got my fingers crossed this 24/96 release is a significant sonic improvement.  I'm still just a little leary with about a 50/50 split of opinions and the high price tag.

Also - for the Rush fans, I thought I recently read the band will be touring this summer and playing MP all the way through?  Did anyone else see that???

Thx
Kenreau






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« Reply #26 on: 27 Apr 2011, 10:01 pm »
When I did my comparison, I used the MFSL version of the MP CD.  The MFSL version was better to me than the original German CD release.

The HiRez version just sounded overall more like music than the MFSL version. 

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« Reply #27 on: 27 Apr 2011, 10:15 pm »
MPs' is one of my favorite Rush albums. 

Fwiw, this past year, I was on a quest to get the complete Rush catalog for my music library.  Hanging out at the SH forum, I read the best sounding digitial versions of most of their albums (pre-1990's +/-) were reportedly the original / earlier CDs from either Anthem Records Canadian or original West Germany Mercury "Atomic" CD's (A number of them share the exact mastering). 

I already had most of the titles on the early and  mid-90's "remasters" series.  As mentioned here as well, most of the CDs sound quality leaves a lot to be desired.  Flat, cold, compressed, sterile sq.  While still not ideal, the Anthem and W.German Atomics are significantly better sounding than any of the versions or "remasters" I had.  Less compression & probably earlier generation of source tapes are the typical reasons given.  Short of a high quality needle drop from a nice early vinyl pressing, these are reportedly as good as they get...  until now?

Werd - I'm curious, which redbook CD pressing version were you using for comparison?  I've really got my fingers crossed this 24/96 release is a significant sonic improvement.  I'm still just a little leary with about a 50/50 split of opinions and the high price tag.

Also - for the Rush fans, I thought I recently read the band will be touring this summer and playing MP all the way through?  Did anyone else see that???

Thx
Kenreau

I saw Rush play in Boston at TD Garden this past Fall.  They did indeed play all of Moving Pictures (this was the second time I heard them play a complete album - the first time was 2112).  There were some technical difficulties at the end of the show when Alex's guitar stopped working and he got very creative:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_mbYzM8axo

My initial listen to the hi-rez version of Moving Pictures (I ripped it from the DVD-A) wasn't as positive as many people here.  In fact, I thought it sounded worse than the remastered cd version that was part of the package.  I'll have to listen again in a few weeks after I get my amps and preamp back from the manufacturer.

George

werd

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« Reply #28 on: 27 Apr 2011, 10:15 pm »
MPs' is one of my favorite Rush albums. 

Fwiw, this past year, I was on a quest to get the complete Rush catalog for my music library.  Hanging out at the SH forum, I read the best sounding digitial versions of most of their albums (pre-1990's +/-) were reportedly the original / earlier CDs from either Anthem Records Canadian or original West Germany Mercury "Atomic" CD's (A number of them share the exact mastering). 

I already had most of the titles on the early and  mid-90's "remasters" series.  As mentioned here as well, most of the CDs sound quality leaves a lot to be desired.  Flat, cold, compressed, sterile sq.  While still not ideal, the Anthem and W.German Atomics are significantly better sounding than any of the versions or "remasters" I had.  Less compression & probably earlier generation of source tapes are the typical reasons given.  Short of a high quality needle drop from a nice early vinyl pressing, these are reportedly as good as they get...  until now?

Werd - I'm curious, which redbook CD pressing version were you using for comparison?  I've really got my fingers crossed this 24/96 release is a significant sonic improvement.  I'm still just a little leary with about a 50/50 split of opinions and the high price tag.

Also - for the Rush fans, I thought I recently read the band will be touring this summer and playing MP all the way through?  Did anyone else see that???

Thx
Kenreau

Hi

Its an Anthem recording. Its funny the cd case claims its ADD mastering while the cd claims its AAd mastering  :scratch:.

kenreau

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« Reply #29 on: 28 Apr 2011, 05:21 pm »
Hi

Its an Anthem recording. Its funny the cd case claims its ADD mastering while the cd claims its AAd mastering  :scratch:.

Well, you and HAL are certainly using the right cd versions for comparisons.  The ADD vs AAD doesn't suprise me too much given its a first pressing cd.  I imagine there wasn't a lot of industry standards & q.c. in place as this new format was ramping up.

kenreau

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« Reply #30 on: 28 Apr 2011, 05:29 pm »
I saw Rush play in Boston at TD Garden this past Fall.  They did indeed play all of Moving Pictures (this was the second time I heard them play a complete album - the first time was 2112).  There were some technical difficulties at the end of the show when Alex's guitar stopped working and he got very creative:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_mbYzM8axo

My initial listen to the hi-rez version of Moving Pictures (I ripped it from the DVD-A) wasn't as positive as many people here.  In fact, I thought it sounded worse than the remastered cd version that was part of the package.  I'll have to listen again in a few weeks after I get my amps and preamp back from the manufacturer.

George

Good to know, thanks George.  I'm still on the fence with laying down my green$ for it.  That youtube clip was entertaining and nice to see their good nature taking it all in stride.  Reminds me of watching the Beyond the Lighted Stage documentary - they are a genuine good group of humans and friends having a great time,  leading a great life.

Thx
Kenreau

MarkM

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« Reply #31 on: 28 Apr 2011, 08:31 pm »
My initial listen to the hi-rez version of Moving Pictures (I ripped it from the DVD-A) wasn't as positive as many people here.  In fact, I thought it sounded worse than the remastered cd version that was part of the package.  I'll have to listen again in a few weeks after I get my amps and preamp back from the manufacturer.

George

This has been my feeling as well.   I have only listened to the ripped stereo hi rez(DVD-A) and was disappointed after listening to it a couple of times.  I kep't thinking the hi rez has to sound better than this?  Ripped the accompaning remastered cd for a comparo and couldn't believe it sounded better.  Better seperation, less edge and made me want to crank it up like I was 14 again. :lol: 

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« Reply #32 on: 28 Apr 2011, 08:44 pm »
What is interesting about the observations so far is that the folks downloading the files from HD Tracks like them and the ones ripping them from the DVD-A do not. 

I used EAC to rip the MFSL CD just for reference. 

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« Reply #33 on: 28 Apr 2011, 09:17 pm »
What is interesting about the observations so far is that the folks downloading the files from HD Tracks like them and the ones ripping them from the DVD-A do not. 

I used EAC to rip the MFSL CD just for reference.

Can't imagine that they are different, but I'll probably have a chance to find out in a few weeks.

George

werd

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« Reply #34 on: 28 Apr 2011, 09:58 pm »
Hello

Using EAC i took the bonus cd from my DVDA i just bought and ripped into wav. This is the same recording as my orig. I will report if it comes up different after extended listening but i doubt it. The difference between the Hi rez and redbook are noteworthy. The hi rez is cleaned up and just sounds more powerful. THis 2496 recording is primo cranked up. Its fabulous, the cymbals on the redbook are phasey and just seem to do nothing. The hi rez are placed and full bodied with purpose, its just way better. Like i said this recording is reference for hi rez marketing. Back to back they show how hi rez can get your gear sounding better.

kenreau

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« Reply #35 on: 29 Apr 2011, 10:25 pm »
Hello

Using EAC i took the bonus cd from my DVDA i just bought and ripped into wav. This is the same recording as my orig. I will report if it comes up different after extended listening but i doubt it. The difference between the Hi rez and redbook are noteworthy. The hi rez is cleaned up and just sounds more powerful. THis 2496 recording is primo cranked up. Its fabulous, the cymbals on the redbook are phasey and just seem to do nothing. The hi rez are placed and full bodied with purpose, its just way better. Like i said this recording is reference for hi rez marketing. Back to back they show how hi rez can get your gear sounding better.

Werd,

What are you using for playback hardware?  Does your redbook player upsample or play native nos? 

Kenreau

werd

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« Reply #36 on: 29 Apr 2011, 10:46 pm »
Werd,

What are you using for playback hardware?  Does your redbook player upsample or play native nos? 

Kenreau

Hi

I am using a Bryston BDP into a BDA dac. I go from redbook to hi rez instantaneous.

It plays native files from 44.1 to 192/176khz. The dac accurately displays frequency.

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« Reply #37 on: 20 May 2011, 03:12 am »
There is NO DOUBT that this is the best release of this classic recording. I am a sucker for remasters, etc. I have them all; vinyl and cd. No contest, this is the best hands down. Just listen to YYZ ONCE for that breaking glass.

Less congestion, more fluid, better dimensionality. Great stuff.

System:

Heavily modded Lite-DAC 60.
Parasound A21
VMPS RM30Ms
DIY Pass Labs B1 Buffer.
Squezzebox Transporter as transport.

Also listened using an Asus Essence STX soundcard and ATH-AD700 headphones; heaven.

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« Reply #38 on: 6 Aug 2011, 06:33 pm »
There is NO DOUBT that this is the best release of this classic recording. I am a sucker for remasters, etc. I have them all; vinyl and cd. No contest, this is the best hands down. Just listen to YYZ ONCE for that breaking glass.

Less congestion, more fluid, better dimensionality. Great stuff.


Agreed. I waited a while to buy this but am glad I finally got the d'ld from HDTracks. It utterly crushes my redbook copy and the vinyl. So much more clarity and depth. I think I'm finally hearing pretty close to what the boys were hearing in the mastering studio.