Pacman vs. Mayweather

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jimdgoulding

Pacman vs. Mayweather
« on: 18 Nov 2011, 04:49 pm »
Looks like there will be another Marquez match first.  But, Mayweather will happen cause there is too much money involved for it not to.  Now, I think Mayweather can win easily.  Don't shoot me . . he's taller, has longer reach and all the skills, speed and versatility a fighter could want.  But, looming around the fight will be the inevitability of the ole rubber match.  You know what I mean.  Both fighters and lots of other people have something to gain from a second fight, or a third, or a fourth.  It saddens me to say this, but championships are overated at this level.  They are both champions already.  What else is there.  Well, more wealth is what there is. 

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #1 on: 18 Nov 2011, 08:00 pm »
From what I'm reading, I think Pacman's team want the Mayweather fight.  It's his promoter that doesn't seem to want it.  Perhaps he's losing confidence in his fighter's chances of winning the fight.  In my opinion and from a business point of view, it would be wise to cash in on the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight now before it's too late.  The same promoter lost the Gamboa-Lopez fight because he made the mistake of waiting too long and Lopez lost and now that fight is gone.

I don't know if you noticed it but in the post interview after the Marquez fight when Pacman was asked if the Mayweather fight will happen he gave a more direct answer this time: "Let's get it on, let's make that fight happen."  Which is odd because he used to give us the textbook answer: "I'll fight whoever my promoter gives me to fight."

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #2 on: 18 Nov 2011, 09:30 pm »
Pacman has wanted this fight for a long time.  Unlike Floyd, he has never dodged an opponent.  Floyd likes to beat his hand-picked opponents and then run his mouth about being "undefeated".  Championship belts don't mean much in today's boxing world because many of the "champs" are not fighting the best in their division because of the politics involved. 

If the fight ever happens (it's going to happen eventually because there is too much money at stake), I hope Manny still has enough gas in the tank to put this guy away.  Floyd is too smart to stand and slug, and will probably resort to dancing around and trying to steal rounds.  He's so fast and so good defensively, Manny will have a hard time getting to him.  Either way, I'll pay to see it and pray Manny kicks this punk's butt!

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #3 on: 18 Nov 2011, 10:46 pm »
Pacman's teams is finally having it their way.  With this last controversial fight with JMM, they got another fight and Mayweather.  Money will literally be flowing for them.  I believe Manny is the only one who can beat Mayweather because he has the most powerful punch in the weight class with speed to boot.  Granted, May is a better technical boxer, but he better not let Manny hit him because he is a finisher and has killer instinct.  Pay attention to how many power punches Manny throws in a fight - several hundred.  And we've all seen the faces of his opponents every time he gets a chance to connect his punches. 

When Mosley hit Mayweather once, his knees buckled.  Meanwhile Mosley admitted that when we went down against Pacman, he said he's never been hit with such power before.  Pacman can walk right into a punch, and he'll just raise both his arms and then pound them together and continue.

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #4 on: 18 Nov 2011, 10:54 pm »
Pacman's teams is finally having it their way.  With this last controversial fight with JMM, they got another fight and Mayweather.  Money will literally be flowing for them.  I believe Manny is the only one who can beat Mayweather because he has the most powerful punch in the weight class with speed to boot.  Granted, May is a better technical boxer, but he better not let Manny hit him because he is a finisher and has killer instinct.  Pay attention to how many power punches Manny throws in a fight - several hundred.  And we've all seen the faces of his opponents every time he gets a chance to connect his punches. 

When Mosley hit Mayweather once, his knees buckled.  Meanwhile Mosley admitted that when we went down against Pacman, he said he's never been hit with such power before.  Pacman can walk right into a punch, and he'll just raise both his arms and then pound them together and continue.

I am a Manny fan, as I have stated earlier, so I'm completely biased.  I'm also a boxing fan and have seen every one of Mayweather's fights.  He hits harder than anyone Manny has ever fought and is bigger and stronger (and faster) than anyone Mayweather has ever fought.  He's also smarter than anyone Manny has ever fought.  If he hits Manny on the chin or if Manny walks right into a punch, the only thing he will be pounding his hands on will be his head after he is helped off the matt.  Thankfully, Manny is too smart to try to walk through punches from a guy like Mayweather.  He will have to fight smart, with everything he has if he is going to win.  I think he can and hope he does but don't kid yourself.  He'll have to fight his best fight ever to beat Floyd. 


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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #5 on: 18 Nov 2011, 11:05 pm »
This will be the first fight I ever buy on PPV.

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #6 on: 18 Nov 2011, 11:08 pm »
Looks like there will be another Marquez match first.  But, Mayweather will happen cause there is too much money involved for it not to.  Now, I think Mayweather can win easily.  Don't shoot me . . he's taller, has longer reach and all the skills, speed and versatility a fighter could want.  But, looming around the fight will be the inevitability of the ole rubber match.  You know what I mean.  Both fighters and lots of other people have something to gain from a second fight, or a third, or a fourth.  It saddens me to say this, but championships are overated at this level.  They are both champions already.  What else is there.  Well, more wealth is what there is.

 No way. Mayweather is rich, Manny is rich, and both will make unbelievable amounts of money from just this one fight, and will continue to do so after, regardless of outcome.
 
 Floyd will want to retain his undefeated string. Manny has his reputation at stake. There will be no rubber match. This will be one for the history books.

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #7 on: 18 Nov 2011, 11:42 pm »
They better get it on while people still want to see the fight. If they take any longer it will become some sort of exhibition match between two old guys. Sort of like watching retired NBA players against a local basketball team. They will always have their names but who wants to watch them when they are no longer at their best? Not me.

jimdgoulding

Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #8 on: 19 Nov 2011, 12:08 am »
I'm with that, Jack, and would love a one fight/no rematch contract, RClark- that's shouts of integrity to me- and would make for an even bigger gate.  Real he-man stuff that the public would eat up.  Never happen in a thousand years. 

dB Cooper

Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #9 on: 24 Nov 2011, 07:01 pm »
A no-rematch clause will never happen as long as one guy's nickname is "Money". Hopefully a fourth JMM fight won't happen either. What's the point?

I am much less sanguine about Manny's chances against Floyd these days after seeing Vs JMM III. It seems boxing is not as high on Manny's to-do list as it once was. It better be if he wants to beat Floyd. And as I've said elsewhere, he can't try to outbox Floyd- he needs to make a fight out of it. He needs to velcro himself to Mayweather's chest and not even throw a head shot until about the fourth round. I see Manny having the advantage on the inside and Floyd on the outside.

Good God, I want Manny to knock Mayweather out...

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #10 on: 25 Nov 2011, 02:35 am »
Just thinking out loud...  I go back and forth on this fight.  DelaHoya and Castillo gave Mayweather his best challenges by letting their hands go.  An old DelaHoya was one round on one card from a draw with Mayweather.  Castillo did very well by going to the body (some had him winning the fight).  On the other hand Margarito, slow as molasses Margarito, landed 43 punches on Pacquiao in the second round of their fight...

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #11 on: 28 Nov 2011, 12:29 pm »
...but finished the fight so beat up that they almost didn't let him fight Cotto a year later. Castillo is a good blueprint. He couldn't make that blueprint prevail, but Manny might. Floyd wants to box, not fight. Manny just needs to keep his hands going and not get tricked into headhunting. WORK THE BODY.

jimdgoulding

Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #12 on: 6 Dec 2011, 02:53 pm »
I'm not for a 4th Manny vs. Juan Manuel fight, either.  It's the proverbial beating a horse to death.  Make the Mayweather fight and give the public what they want.  That's what the sport should do, but will they is anybody's guess.  Is this sport, money comes before integrity. 

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #13 on: 7 Dec 2011, 12:40 am »
Isn't integrity an afterthought of money  :lol:?

But seriously now.  You speak about "the sport of boxing" as if it was a league like baseball or football.  Boxing is comprised of many free agents who often don't like each other and can't agree.  If money was first the fight would be made.  A lot of people will be set for life when that fight is made...

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #14 on: 28 Dec 2011, 01:40 am »
Floyd is going to serve 3 months for beating his spouse.  Scum.   http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/170827-did-mayweathers-jail-sentence-ko-his-shot-at-pacquiao

jimdgoulding

Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #15 on: 11 Jan 2012, 06:40 pm »
Heard on ESPN this morning that Floyd has sent Manny an email:  "Let's get it on, punk", or words to that effect.  May 5th was suggested.  Floyd doesn't begin serving his sentence till after that.  Now, let's see what Manny does.

dB Cooper

Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #16 on: 11 Jan 2012, 10:11 pm »
Now it's Arum hemming and hawing. I don't know wtf it is that this fight can't be made. All of the principals should be drummed out of the business if they can't get this done. No wonder boxing has all but disappeared off the radar of most sports fans.

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Re: Pacman vs. Mayweather
« Reply #17 on: 12 Jan 2012, 02:15 am »
All of the principals should be drummed out of the business if they can't get this done.

Agreed.  If they don't do this fight I don't want to see either of them anymore. 

I re watched Pac Marquez and I know style's make fights but I think Pacquiao is in for an unhappy night against Mayweather...