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Title: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: Christo22 on 12 Jan 2019, 01:40 pm

Just ordered a pair of Model T Signatures with passive external crossovers.
Two options now:
1. Passive with a pair of 28b3?
2. Or for the same price...an active setup with a BAX1 and smaller amps. I already have a 4b3 that I would just keep.

...That’s the reason why I went with Sigs. Flexibility... and to be able to ask myself that type of question...
😂😂
What do you think?

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: JLM on 12 Jan 2019, 02:03 pm

Have run 3 different active speakers over the last 15 years and would never go back.

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: bud1451 on 12 Jan 2019, 03:09 pm

I had a 4b3 powering a set of Model T Signatures with no issues whatsoever. Unless you listen extremely loud or have a very large room I’m sure you’ll be more than happy with your current amp powering the sigs.

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: Christo22 on 12 Jan 2019, 03:11 pm

Ok.
Are you using the Bryston cables with your crossover?
I did order a set.

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: bud1451 on 12 Jan 2019, 03:18 pm

Quote from: Christo22 on 12 Jan 2019, 03:11 pm

Ok.
Are you using the Bryston cables with your crossover?
I did order a set.

No just some regular 10 gauge speaker cables

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: Christo22 on 12 Jan 2019, 03:26 pm

Ok.
How did you mange then to get the one that goes from your 4b3 single pair to the crossover triple pair?

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: bud1451 on 12 Jan 2019, 03:35 pm

The PAX 1 external crossover comes with jumpers for single wire from amp or you can biwire or triwire from amp...remove some or all jumpers from crossover.

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: Christo22 on 12 Jan 2019, 03:46 pm

Ok.
Dam*!
Maybe I should just go that way then...
Have already a very nice pair of XLO Signature shotguns.
So if I get you right, should I return my passive crossovers and custom cables.
Buy a BAX now... and be even closer to my active setup...
Right?

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: bud1451 on 12 Jan 2019, 03:55 pm

OOPS.....I meant PAX 1 passive crossover not BAX 1......

But if you really want to go active then all you need is a couple 2.5b3 or 3b3

I was active with 2 3bsst and a 4bsst but unfortunately couldn’t afford the cubed series.

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: bud1451 on 12 Jan 2019, 04:00 pm

Just a thought buy 2 more amps now and passively triamp into the pax ...later on buy the Bax

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: Christo22 on 12 Jan 2019, 04:11 pm

Ok. What is your setup now?
PAX1?
It’s confusing.
You still have your Model T?

PX1... that’s what I got right now.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=188936)

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: Christo22 on 12 Jan 2019, 04:32 pm

Found it online.
Just a regular cable will work.
See picture.
You still needs 3 pairs from the Xover to the Model Ts.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=188939)

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: bud1451 on 12 Jan 2019, 04:39 pm

I’ve owned the Model T internal passive & the Signatures both active & passive, also the Mini Ts. Bryston makes an excellent speaker, I recommend them to everyone. I have since moved on as I like to try different speakers.
Passive triamping isn’t the best but you’ll be one step closer to active.... my opinion a couple of 2.5b3 and  your 4b3 will be sufficient but you could go with the 3b3 if funds permit.

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: Christo22 on 12 Jan 2019, 04:48 pm

Same here.
Had the Mini Ts twice. (Appart & house).
Also had the Model Ts internal passive. 
Tried other things and going back to Bryston.
... so I also agree that Bryston via Axiom build very good speakers. 😉

Until I have the money to get a BAX-1 and extra amps, I’ll use the diagram above.

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: adol290 on 12 Jan 2019, 06:51 pm

I had the Model T passive with the 28b.

Then went to the Model T SIgnature version passive. Better sound in my ears.

Then to the Model T active with the BAX-1 crossover. Used a pair of 7b3's for the bottom end,
 and a pair of 4b3's for the mid and highs. By far this is the best sounding setup.

So I would highly recommend going active as opposed to 28b's with the passive version.
You will not be disappointed.

BTW. I also tried a 4b3 for the Bass on the active model T's. The Bass was not nearly as
 good compared to having the 7b3's on the bass.

Title: Re: Model T Signature with 28b3 or Active?
Post by: Christo22 on 18 Jan 2019, 01:51 am

Ok. Thanks adol290.
Great overview.
Already have a 4b3.
I was thinking more of a second 4b3 for the MIDS and maybe a 2.5b3 for the HIGHS.
++ room friendly going that way...