I loved them when I was in college ('72-'78), and still enjoy those first 7 albums a lot. Saw them live at Southern Illinois University when they toured in support of the Vices album, and they were pretty awful. Sloppy playing and singing and horrible arena sound. Still loved their records, though, until I started to lose interest around the time Minute by Minute came out. The songs just stopped appealing to me for some reason. It wasn't a McDonald thing, since Streets and Fault Line remain two of my favorites.