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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => Planar Circle => Topic started by: SteveFord on 3 Oct 2010, 01:39 pm

Title: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 3 Oct 2010, 01:39 pm: The downstairs which my neighbors don't seem to enjoy as much as I do

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36550)

and the attic which has been converted into a monster master bedroom

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36547)

a Maggie-based home theater room for my better half is in the planning stages which means my tax refund is already spent.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: flintstone on 3 Oct 2010, 02:11 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=10385)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=8996)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=11123)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=8993)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=11124)

Apogee Duetta Signature, and Apogee MiniGrand

Dave
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Post by: hi5harry on 3 Oct 2010, 03:05 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=35160)
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Post by: flintstone on 3 Oct 2010, 03:08 pm: Lots of tubes so far :green:

Dave
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 4 Oct 2010, 12:16 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36588)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36589)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36590)
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Post by: Mariusz on 4 Oct 2010, 12:33 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=32480)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: lonewolfny42 on 4 Oct 2010, 06:34 am: Planar Porn - we want to see!

NSFW...... :jester:

Magneplanar 20.1 ....

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36605)

Magneplanar 1.6 .....

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36606)

Maggie's outdoors.... :wink:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36607)

Analysis Audio Omega....

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36608)

............................... :beer:
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Post by: ajzepp on 4 Oct 2010, 08:29 am: Chris, I bet those 20.1 Maggies sounded amazing with that Vandersteen sub! :thumb:
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 4 Oct 2010, 10:28 am: Low WAF Factor on the 20.1s - here's a PM from my better half:

Those speakers are a bit large, don't get any ideas or we will need a bigger house!

She speaks, I listen. Sometimes.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 4 Oct 2010, 03:47 pm: Quote from: hi5harry on 3 Oct 2010, 03:05 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=35160)

Those sure are nice looking ESL's. Is their bass output really as good as the Soundlab literature says? I haven't heard those speakers them myself.
Charlie
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Post by: steve k on 4 Oct 2010, 08:21 pm: Modded IIIA's biamped on Mye stands.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=32858)
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Post by: hi5harry on 4 Oct 2010, 10:51 pm: Hey Jazzman,
They are actually an Italian designed electrostat called " the Legato". I have had Soundlabs in the past and I like these a lot better. They are Koa wood with marble and I believe they are 1 of only 4 pair made. The builder had to quit for health reasons.
I really enjoyed your article on how you built your speakers. Talk about pride of ownership! This Planer Circle is going to be fun. Regards, Frank
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: JRace on 5 Oct 2010, 09:38 pm: Here's an old pic of my room, before reno's..

(http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/download/file.php?id=762)
Summit X / Stage / Descent i
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: AVnerdguy on 5 Oct 2010, 10:42 pm: Maggie 1.7 with Mye Sound stands

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36669)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: ebag4 on 5 Oct 2010, 10:59 pm: I am seeing a number of these systems with the speakers set up within a couple of feet from the frontwall. Being dipolars should'nt these be set up in a similar manner to OBs, away from the frontwall about 4' or so? If not, why are they different?

Thanks,
Ed
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 5 Oct 2010, 11:35 pm: Beautiful stuff, guys, keep them coming!

Ebag4,
Usually a couple feet out is good. Here's a link to the Magnepan Owner's Manuals

http://www.magnepan.com/product_manuals

and they have a pretty good description on set up.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: AVnerdguy on 6 Oct 2010, 12:49 am: Quote from: ebag4 on 5 Oct 2010, 10:59 pm
I am seeing a number of these systems with the speakers set up within a couple of feet from the frontwall. Being dipolars should'nt these be set up in a similar manner to OBs, away from the frontwall about 4' or so? If not, why are they different?

Thanks,
Ed

You are correct. Due to traffic patterns I have the actual listening position marked out on the floor and I move them out when critical listening. The stands make it very easy to move. I also added some damping materials behind them on the wall - not in photos. That helps as well.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: flintstone on 6 Oct 2010, 01:01 am: Quote from: ebag4 on 5 Oct 2010, 10:59 pm
I am seeing a number of these systems with the speakers set up within a couple of feet from the frontwall. Being dipolars should'nt these be set up in a similar manner to OBs, away from the frontwall about 4' or so? If not, why are they different?

Thanks,
Ed

My Apogee are 5 feet out............they sound very good there.

Dave
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: audioseduction on 6 Oct 2010, 01:52 am: Here is my dedicated 2CH system using Summit X for transducers. More details here...
http://www.martinloganowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1844 (http://www.martinloganowners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1844)

(http://www.audioseduction.com/photos/musicbox1.jpg)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: flintstone on 6 Oct 2010, 02:50 am: None of these Apogee speaker systems are mine, but I wish they were :green:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36681)

Apogee Grand

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36682)

Rebuilt Apogee Scintilla

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36683)

Rebuilt Apogee Fullrange

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36684)

New Apogee Definitive

Dave
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: JRace on 6 Oct 2010, 02:55 pm: Quote from: ebag4 on 5 Oct 2010, 10:59 pm
I am seeing a number of these systems with the speakers set up within a couple of feet from the frontwall. Being dipolars should'nt these be set up in a similar manner to OBs, away from the frontwall about 4' or so? If not, why are they different?

Thanks,
Ed
Mine look close..but they are 4' (from the panel) to the wall.
Hard to judge with that pictures perspective.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: ebag4 on 6 Oct 2010, 03:05 pm: Thanks for the replys guys. I certainly understand having to move speakers around for domestic reasons. I was just curious how the OBs were subject to negative effects when placed too close to the frontwall while the planers weren't. It sounds like most of you are running your planers out from the wall.

Thanks again,
Ed
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: AVnerdguy on 6 Oct 2010, 03:14 pm: Quote from: ebag4 on 6 Oct 2010, 03:05 pm
Thanks for the replys guys. I certainly understand having to move speakers around for domestic reasons. I was just curious how the OBs were subject to negative effects when placed too close to the frontwall while the planers weren't. It sounds like most of you are running your planers out from the wall.

Thanks again,
Ed

Can't speak for others but if I leave the Maggies too close to the wall they lose some of the depth and wide open soundstage - kinda close in and get beamy. By that I mean there is a limited sweet spot at my listening position and I can change the placement of instruments by moving my position by a few feet one way or the other. When I get them out from the wall (about 3-4') the stage gets wider and that effect disappears. They still sound great when against the wall but not as good as they can.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Donald on 7 Oct 2010, 12:45 am: Newbie,

Not sure how to post pictures yet. However, hope link works. 18' Velodyne hidden in there also. http://s417.photobucket.com/albums/pp256/mdeal13797/Home%20Stereo/?action=view&current=IMG_3171.jpg#!oZZ1QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs417.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp256%2Fmdeal13797%2FHome%2520Stereo%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_3171.jpg%26
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: timind on 7 Oct 2010, 01:12 am: (http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp256/mdeal13797/Home%20Stereo/IMG_3171.jpg)

Here ya go.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Donald on 7 Oct 2010, 01:28 am: Thank you.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: hi5harry on 10 Oct 2010, 12:59 am: the rear channels, also in Koa wood and also quite large, they need some work. And a better shot of the wood and granite on the front channels
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36885)

(http://)
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Post by: J. Royce Baron on 10 Oct 2010, 01:32 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36887)
Maggie QR 1.6 Forward Tilt 5°
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Post by: SteveFord on 10 Oct 2010, 01:37 am: What kind of stands are you using for those?
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Post by: J. Royce Baron on 10 Oct 2010, 09:08 am: Sound Anchor Stands - replaced stock Anchor spikes with Herbies Threaded Stud Gliders - a must have for positioning/moving Maggies with ease when stand is either pushed or pulled by its base - the speaker simply slides on low pile carpet or hardwood - hence eliminating physical contact with panels.
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Post by: jk@home on 10 Oct 2010, 05:11 pm: Hey J., neat room treatments. I have a stack of OC703 panels that I still have to cover, before installing, for bass traps and side panels. They looks similar to what you are using. What are the other (diffraction?) panels?

I noticed you have some in front of the corner bass traps, my MMG's backwave partially shoots at the back corners also, so this is something I could try.
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Post by: twitch54 on 10 Oct 2010, 05:29 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36923)

Logan Spire's, Velodyne DD-15 sub, driven by Rogue M-180's / Plinius Sa-102 (depends on my mood !), ARC LS-26 pre, Analog VPI Aries 3, Digital Cary 303/300
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: twitch54 on 10 Oct 2010, 06:11 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36926)

CLX's that I auditioned earlier this year @ Overture, Wilmington, De
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: J. Royce Baron on 10 Oct 2010, 09:26 pm: JK ... You are correct the absorbers are indeed OC 703 – three of the absorbers are 4” centre one is 6” – the left corner is ‘Superchunked’ as are all corners in the room – diffusers are combination of T fusors/Q fusors – after much experiment with speaker placement AND front wall treatment finally settled on present arrangement.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jk@home on 10 Oct 2010, 10:06 pm: Quote from: J. Royce Baron on 10 Oct 2010, 09:26 pm
JK ... You are correct the absorbers are indeed OC 703 – three of the absorbers are 4” centre one is 6” – the left corner is ‘Superchunked’ as are all corners in the room – diffusers are combination of T fusors/Q fusors – after much experiment with speaker placement AND front wall treatment finally settled on present arrangement.

OK, they are an Auralex product. I use their "SubDude HD" platforms under my subs. Thanks, I check it out.
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Post by: PDR on 14 Oct 2010, 02:05 am: Ok.....heres my Carver Original amazings....built in 1987.....serial# 758.......Have the boxes, liners,bags.......these are as new! :D

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/PDRCanada/102_1738.jpg)

This is not where they are set up.....waiting for my dedicated room.....for all my speaks, hopefully by December it will be ready.
Dont know if 5" ribbons qualify, but here is my HT fronts. 8 on each side...Founteks.
I have arrays for the rears....12x4" drivers with 8 Dayton P2 planers per side.....have to find a pic and post a little later.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/PDRCanada/102_1579.jpg)
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Post by: J. Royce Baron on 15 Oct 2010, 10:06 am: Great job and impressive history – do you keep them company during the night? :wink:
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Post by: jk@home on 15 Oct 2010, 11:18 am: Quote from: J. Royce Baron on 15 Oct 2010, 10:06 am
Great job and impressive history – do you keep them company during the night? :wink:

Gives new meaning to the term "Planar porn" :green:

Way to go Andyr, definably a project to be proud of.

If I can ever get my "Deli framed" MMG project finished, I'll post them here. Can say that the hardwood frame mod is the way to go!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 15 Oct 2010, 12:17 pm: Quote from: twitch54 on 10 Oct 2010, 06:11 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36926)

CLX's that I auditioned earlier this year @ Overture, Wilmington, De

Talk about planar porn, I get a woody just looking at those things :lol:
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Post by: Wayner on 15 Oct 2010, 04:14 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=12630)

MartinLogan reQuests in the main listening room (digital).

Wayner
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Post by: DTB300 on 15 Oct 2010, 05:35 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37117)

Martin Logan CLSIIz's

All 4 corners of room: GIK 244 Trap in each corner (straddling) - floor to ceiling. Behind those I have 4" Bonded Acoustical Cotton floor to ceiling. Total of 8 GIK's and 8 BAC's.

Reflection Point panels on side wall and front wall behind speakers: I use 2" Bonded Acoustical Cotton reflection panels - (7 total)

Rear Wall: GIK 244 Traps behind seating position and along back wall (3 total)

Front Wall behind Sub - GIK 244 panel horizontal along floor/wall seam (1 total)

Drop ceiling: Stuffed with 5.5" Bulk Acoustical Cotton in ceiling joists
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Post by: SteveFord on 16 Oct 2010, 12:11 am: Wayner,
The Fuhrerbunker never had tunes like that!
Really nice stuff, everybody. Keep them coming.
I apologize for screwing up a couple of posts when I moved AndyR's post into a new topic (Maggie Mods).
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Post by: peck555 on 16 Oct 2010, 01:33 am: 8)WOW, nice set up's guys, my little Maggie 1.5's being driven by a carver 1.0t just doesn't seem as interesting now.
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Post by: SteveFord on 16 Oct 2010, 09:11 am: I dunno, Peck555, I'd like to see them. :D
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Post by: peck555 on 17 Oct 2010, 08:09 pm: Well, I guess I'll have to clean up and get the camera.
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Post by: twitch54 on 17 Oct 2010, 08:14 pm: Quote from: peck555 on 17 Oct 2010, 08:09 pm
Well, I guess I'll have to clean up and get the camera.

that's OK we don't want to see you....just your speaker set-up.....sorry I couldn't resist !
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Post by: jmserre on 20 Oct 2010, 11:56 pm: Pretty cool to have a 'planar' only circle.

Multi-channel music system (I think you can guess which brand I like)

Front:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37472)

Back

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37473)

More info on sound system at:

http://www.musiqueenmulticanaux.com/soundSystem.html
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Post by: Bill Baker on 21 Oct 2010, 01:01 am: King Sound Prince II..... Yep, I want a pair for testing and evaluation purposes.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37475)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37476)
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Post by: dokblues on 25 Oct 2010, 02:46 am: Thanks for the Circle Steve! Life long Maggie and Planar fan. Some Very nice pic`s so far. Here are some older ones of my little Maggies and my Lightstar.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37669)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37670)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37671)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37672)
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Post by: ajzepp on 25 Oct 2010, 06:28 am: Okay, my room is still a work in progress, but figured I'd post a few pics for the time being...still have a couple more GIK traps to put up on the walls, maybe a little greenery, and a movie poster or two. Need to break up all the black in the room, so that'll be my next project.

PS. Sorry for the dirty camera lens!

(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4097/aptmaggies1.jpg)

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/1668/aptmaggies2.jpg)

(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4968/aptmaggies3.jpg)

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4271/aptmaggies4.jpg)

As you can see, the back of the room needs some tidying up lol.
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Post by: BPT on 30 Oct 2010, 04:22 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37925)
Here is a picture of the BPT OB planar/dynamic system from RMAF 2009. Upper section is a BG RD75 in an OB with angled wings. Lower section is an OB of four DPL-15" from DIY Audio per side. Crossover and EQ is with DEQX.
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Post by: jk@home on 30 Oct 2010, 08:45 pm: Do you have any more info on the bass OB units? I'm thinking about throwing together something similar for subs to go with my MMGs.
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Post by: BPT on 30 Oct 2010, 09:56 pm: Yes. What would you like to know?
Chris H.
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Post by: jk@home on 30 Oct 2010, 11:07 pm: Hey Chris. Are they a commercial product or something you diyed/custom built? They certainly look the former. :thumb: The DPL-15 driver is now discontinued, isn't it?

Here's the idea I've been playing with, using AE-IB15s. Do you feel I should go four drivers per side?:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=87149.0
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Post by: BPT on 31 Oct 2010, 01:38 am: I built these to use at RMAF 2009 and at home.
Yes, the DPL-15s are discontinued.
The IB-15s are a nice driver and will do the job. Using 2, 3 or 4 drivers depends on the size of your room, how loud you listen and how low you want to equalize them. In an average listening room of 12x15, two should be fine. I used four because my room is 21x40 with 10' celings and I wanted to equalize them flat to 20hz.
You definitely want to use an active crossover and EQ for best results. There is a lot of cone moving around so you want a bass amp with a high damping factor like the 500/1000 watt Ice amps. Another very good choice would be Danny's SW-12-16FR (3 per side) with servo amps.
I just sent my RD75s back to BG for a rehab. They are going to replace the mylar diaphram with their new Kaladex film. Suppose to add 2dB of efficiency as well as a more linear response. Can't wait to get them back and the system cookin' again.
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Post by: jk@home on 31 Oct 2010, 02:12 am: Thanks Chris. I plan on using a Behr DCX and a Yamaha P3500S pro amp.

You did an excellent job, enjoy!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 31 Oct 2010, 11:46 pm: Quote from: dokblues on 25 Oct 2010, 02:46 am
Thanks for the Circle Steve! Life long Maggie and Planar fan. Some Very nice pic`s so far. Here are some older ones of my little Maggies and my Lightstar.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37669)

Geeze--- somebody scribbled their name all over that Lightstar but I'll take it anyway if you decide to dump that old thing. :lol:
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Post by: Jeff Ward on 1 Nov 2010, 12:46 am: Okay, I'll play. It was tough to get an acceptable angle on my HT set-up:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1159/5133380377_5263b7d26e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thispublicaddress/5133380377/)

Magnepan MMGWs in a phantom center pairing with MC-1s for mains (another set of MMGWs in the rear, stereo Martin Logan Dynamo subs. Krell Showcase into a McIntosh 7106 amp powering the set-up with Mac Mini on top, and a Cambridge universal disc player. The distortion is a bit severe because of the extreme wide angle lens. The room is about 9x16, and the TV is a 50" Panasonic plasma. Eventually, I'll paint the room a lighter color and get some traps in place but it sounds pretty good in its present "lively" condition. My main 2 channel setup won't fit well in single shot, but the 1.7s do:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/5133392969_fc8c92517e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thispublicaddress/5133392969/)

That's a Van Alstine 550EXR in the center, flanked by an REL sub. The vinyl/digital rig and preamp are at one side of the room. My records line the other side of the room, as yet unpacked or stowed. The liquor cabinet, however, is unpacked. No treatments yet, but as with the HT set-up it's not bad live right now. Speakers are about 4' from the sidewalls, and about 5-6' from the rear wall. It's a fairly long room.

As you can see, I like the classic Maggie look, so I paid the upcharge for the off-white socks and wood frame. With the walls painted about the same color, these monoliths tend to disappear in all senses of the word. I want to do the same thing, color-wise, with walls in the HT setup. There's a nice hardwood floor under the living room same as the den, so once I start budgeting for traps I'll be getting rid of the peach pepto-bismol carpet.
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Post by: weitrhino on 10 Nov 2010, 07:23 pm: My meager offering:

Those are Bob Carver's 180 watt tube monoblocks powering a pair of Carver ALS Platinums. A Carver C-16 operates the front end. The disc player is just an old Apex dragged back out when the HT was split from the 2-channel system. The tuner shown is a Carver TX-11a which has just been replaced with a TX-11b.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=38410)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=38408)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=38412)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=38414)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 11 Nov 2010, 09:16 pm: I get a hard on just looking at those Carver tube monoblocks.
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Post by: sfox50 on 14 Nov 2010, 04:26 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36200)

Magnestand MMG's in Sapele
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Post by: bpape on 14 Nov 2010, 04:34 pm: Those are some sexy looking MMGs. :thumb:

Bryan
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Post by: SteveFord on 15 Nov 2010, 01:11 am: I've got some MMGs just collecting cobwebs in the basement.
Tell us more about that project, please.
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Post by: BaMorin on 15 Nov 2010, 10:13 pm: Quote from: sfox50 on 14 Nov 2010, 04:26 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36200)

Magnestand MMG's in Sapele

Peter Gunn's work?
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Post by: sfox50 on 16 Nov 2010, 02:43 am: Yes, Peter Gunn built these for the original owner, I bought them over two years ago. The best $ I've spent on audio.
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Post by: nathanso on 16 Nov 2010, 04:19 pm: Hmm.. a planar thread with no Acoustats?!? This will fix that.. http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vbudg&1225736545 (http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vbudg&1225736545)

The photo is somewhat dated with the amp and subs having changed, but all else remains pretty much the same.
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Post by: BaMorin on 16 Nov 2010, 06:32 pm: Quote from: sfox50 on 16 Nov 2010, 02:43 am
Yes, Peter Gunn built these for the original owner, I bought them over two years ago. The best $ I've spent on audio.

I spent quite a bit of time in an email tic-tac with him about three years ago about what it would cost to have that done to my 3.6's including XOs.
Well above my earning potential.......

Good looking speakers, thanks for sharing
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Post by: ajzepp on 17 Nov 2010, 08:14 am: Quote from: nathanso on 16 Nov 2010, 04:19 pm
Hmm.. a planar thread with no Acoustats?!? This will fix that.. http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vbudg&1225736545 (http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vbudg&1225736545)

The photo is somewhat dated with the amp and subs having changed, but all else remains pretty much the same.

Wow! Beautiful!!
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Post by: Unison845 on 17 Nov 2010, 02:57 pm: These are beautiful looking speaker, very detailed which Italian are known for.
Can you tell us more about these speakers? Are these power hungry as the Soundlab? Does it have the transparency of ESL57, Beveridge, Stax, KLH9 ?
Thks.

Quote from: hi5harry on 4 Oct 2010, 10:51 pm
Hey Jazzman,
They are actually an Italian designed electrostat called " the Legato". I have had Soundlabs in the past and I like these a lot better. They are Koa wood with marble and I believe they are 1 of only 4 pair made. The builder had to quit for health reasons.
I really enjoyed your article on how you built your speakers. Talk about pride of ownership! This Planer Circle is going to be fun. Regards, Frank
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Post by: hi5harry on 18 Nov 2010, 08:53 pm: I may have been too harsh on comparing the Soundlabs against the Legato's. I think the Soundlabs are a more complete design and certainly go deeper. The Legatos have that midrange magic we all crave from planer type speakers and a soundstage that is almost holographic. They do not do deep bass at all. Maybe falling off around 40 hz. That is probably why they do well in my room. I can let my subs handle the bottom end without much interference from the massive panels.
I know almost nothing about these speakers. Around 12 years ago, I was invited to an amp-fest at an audiophile's house who was using this same speaker. Even though my amps did not sound great on them, the speakers sounded just fantastic with other amps. About 2 months ago, I got word of a pair of these speakers in storage and couldn't resist. As great as they looked, I probably would have bought them even if they sounded awful. If you remember back to the old Beveridge's and Quads, they have that "ease of presentation" that just gets under your skin. The Legatos are a lot like that, but will play insanely loud. An audiophile/ friend of mine said it best " I can tell right away what they don't do perfect, but I quit thinking about it because none of that matters".
I'm enjoying the Planar Circle way too much, so let's keep the pics coming!
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Post by: bushbison on 25 Nov 2010, 07:44 pm: ..do these count??...
These DO have planar ribbons!!! :thumb:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=39119)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=39120)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 26 Nov 2010, 03:17 am: Quote from: bushbison on 25 Nov 2010, 07:44 pm
..do these count??...
These DO have planar ribbons!!! :thumb:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=39119)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=39120)

I'm voting yes on that question. Very cool... are those roll your own or store bought?
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Post by: bushbison on 26 Nov 2010, 11:48 pm: Store bought...and VERY unfortunately for sale.... :duh: :duh:
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Post by: Ellegon on 5 Dec 2010, 12:39 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=39599)
Magnestand MG-12s.
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Post by: andyr on 5 Dec 2010, 01:20 am: Quote from: Ellegon on 5 Dec 2010, 12:39 am

Magnestand MG-12s.

Nice. What wood?

Regards,

Andy
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Post by: Ellegon on 5 Dec 2010, 02:35 am: Sorry they are figured Maple with Mulberry accents.
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Post by: hatehifi on 16 Dec 2010, 06:16 pm: Guess this is the right place to update my present LR system. They may go into my bedroom after my Zu Super Flys arrive :scratch: . In the BR I can place them closer to the side walls and, if lucky, interact better with the room than now in the LR - though I have NO qualms as to how they sound now... :singing: (meanwhile I've sorted out my installation, i.e., doesn't look so geeky :thumb: oh, and cleaned my camera's lens too :roll:)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2dcd477.jpg)
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Post by: rollo on 16 Dec 2010, 06:57 pm: Quote from: hatehifi on 16 Dec 2010, 06:16 pm
Guess this is the right place to update my present LR system. They may go into my bedroom after my Zu Super Flys arrive :scratch: . In the BR I can place them closer to the side walls and, if lucky, interact better with the room than now in the LR - though I have NO qualms as to how they sound now... :singing: (meanwhile I've sorted out my installation, i.e., doesn't look so geeky :thumb: oh, and cleaned my camera's lens too :roll:)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2dcd477.jpg)

(http://i51.tinypic.com/11tpd83.jpg)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/11108sj.jpg)

Someone needs wire management 101. :wink: You will be quite surprised as to the sonic benifits of wires not touching each other.

charles
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Post by: hatehifi on 16 Dec 2010, 08:10 pm: Yo Charles, thanks for the suggestion but thought I was clear that meanwhile it is not so geeky? That shot taken ten minutes after a re-arranging. BTW, the only signal wires you see there [below the shelf] are the leads for the Gryphon Exorcist which is disconnected at the amp when not in use and the open RCAs replaced with Black Forest caps. Exception, the digi IC from Zu to the micromega DUO.Pro dac - all signal cables are routed behind the units and if there is a junction with a power line, then at 90° and with a wad of cotton cloth as physical buffer.
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Post by: BobC on 16 Dec 2010, 08:37 pm: Here's a shot of mine! Martin Logan Ascent i's powered by Odyssey Audio.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=13211)

Plan on making some DIY accoustic panels this winter.
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Post by: I.Greyhound Fan on 25 Dec 2010, 01:26 am: Quote from: Ellegon on 5 Dec 2010, 02:35 am
Sorry they are figured Maple with Mulberry accents.
Ellegon, I would love to see a picture of the back of your Maggies. I own a pair of 1.6's and MMG's. I've been thinking of modifying the MMG's into a nicer frame as an experiment. I was wondering if your Maggies were just placed in a wooden frame around the original frame.

Thanks,

Larry
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Post by: Frank I on 5 Jan 2011, 03:50 pm: I really enjoyed looking at all these magnificent pictures. I have the MMG running with an Outlaw 2150RR and Outlaw LF1 sub with an Onkyo DX 7555 and Sony 999ES SACD player in my living room.
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Post by: ajzepp on 11 Jan 2011, 06:42 am: That's how I started with Maggies...MMGs paired with Outlaw monoblocks :thumb:

First movie I watched was Sleepy Hollow, and I'll never forget how real it sounded during this one scene where a horse drawn carriage went barraging down a gravel/stone road...it was very memorable.
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Post by: aaron smithski on 21 Jan 2011, 09:41 pm: Magnepan 3.6R's

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a339/asmithski/008.jpg?t=1295645567)

Martin Logan CLSIIa's

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a339/asmithski/P1000118.jpg?t=1295645694)

GR Research-designed LS-6's (they do use a row of planars :) )

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a339/asmithski/Picture1358.jpg?t=1295645816)

Also have a set of Carver Amazings that have never been photographed in the wild.

Not the permanent locations for any of the speakers if it wasn't obvious. :green:
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Post by: SteveFord on 27 Jan 2011, 06:25 pm: Aaron,
What are your thoughts on those Martin Logans?
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Post by: aaron smithski on 27 Jan 2011, 07:00 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 27 Jan 2011, 06:25 pm
Aaron,
What are your thoughts on those Martin Logans?

I only listened to the Logans in that spot for about 10 days and then they were banished to storage until my listening room is finished; which at the current rate of progress will be sometime in 2018. I found them on Craigslist when I was out working 550 miles from home...wasn't looking for them but after 45 minutes of listening they found me. :wink:

They are in absolute mint condition and have very limited time on the panels. The guy had them for a year before getting married and the wife didn't take too kindly to them in their small family room, so they were only allowed out for Christmas parties and a few other occasions. He said no more than a few weeks a year of use and they were kept in the original boxes until given the chance to play some music.

What these things do in the midrange is ridiculous (the good kind). They are utterly compelling. The listening space they were in is over 14,000 cu.ft. so their normal bass shyness was even more pronounced, but this works just fine for me as I planned on mating them to an 8-driver Infinite Baffle sub system in a 2200 cu.ft. room. :D

This was until the Maggies came along...

Now there will be a Footloose-style competition to see which stays.

It's going to be a battle.
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Post by: oboaudio on 10 Feb 2011, 11:03 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42619)
My hybrid speaker system
(http://)
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Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 11 Feb 2011, 12:49 am: Wow. :o

Your "control panel" is simply awe inspiring. For those of us that haven't gone to the dark side of a single remote, your solution is fantastic.

To you Sir, I salute. Now that's creativity. :thumb:

Bob - :notworthy:
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Post by: andyr on 11 Feb 2011, 02:38 am: Quote from: oboaudio on 10 Feb 2011, 11:03 pm

My hybrid speaker system
(http://)

Wow! What are these panels? :o MG-12s with some Tymp bass panels?

I would think it would sound even better if you:
a) put the inner panels vertical like the others, and
b) separated the bass panels, so you can "arc" all 3 panels (to make them the same distance away from your ears - ie. time coherence).

Regards,

Andy
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Post by: oboaudio on 11 Feb 2011, 01:54 pm: Quote from: andyr on 11 Feb 2011, 02:38 am
Wow! What are these panels? :o MG-12s with some Tymp bass panels?

I would think it would sound even better if you:
a) put the inner panels vertical like the others, and
b) separated the bass panels, so you can "arc" all 3 panels (to make them the same distance away from your ears - ie. time coherence).

Regards,

Andy
The inner panels are Martin Logan Summits (woofers disconnected). The large panels are Magneplanar Tympani IV bass panels (modified). The bass panels "are time aligned" with the electrostatic elements. Imaging, coherence, and sound-staging are superb. I use Martin Logan Summits just for the electrostatic elements (no xover
between mids and highs) and this provides considerably better imaging than one gets with Magneplanar speakers.
This combination of speakers (both dipole) results in a very large sound-stage with depth, power, transient
response, ambience, low level detail, that one cannot get with the Magneplanars alone, including the top of the line. MG-20. I Also extend the bass response to below 1 hz with the Eminent Technology TRW-17 Rotary Subwoofer. The room is
completely treated with 36 ASC tube traps and other custom made acoustical devices that results in extremely well controlled bass and imaging that is awesome. Above the screen (center channel) is a Martin Logan Logos electrostatic
speaker as well. I also have (4) rear speakers and (4) side speakers that complete the array for surround sound (feels like one is actually in the hall where the recording was made. I have been an audiophile for over 50 years and this hybrid
speaker system is extremely realistic and accurate in producing a believable sound experience.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42711)
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Post by: oboaudio on 11 Feb 2011, 02:03 pm: Another picture of my system
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42712)
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Post by: oboaudio on 11 Feb 2011, 02:46 pm: Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on 11 Feb 2011, 12:49 am
Wow. :o

Your "control panel" is simply awe inspiring. For those of us that haven't gone to the dark side of a single remote, your solution is fantastic.

To you Sir, I salute. Now that's creativity. :thumb:

Bob - :notworthy:

Thanks very much. The control panel also serves as a means to hide the large video and power cables the that come up through the floor.
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Post by: oboaudio on 11 Feb 2011, 03:32 pm: Control room on separate concrete foundation for all equipment. This gives one
easy access to all equipment and cables and provides complete isolation from
vibration.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42713)
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Post by: SteveFord on 26 Feb 2011, 04:50 pm: It appears as if mom gave birth last night.
These MMGs acquit themselves really well. Ordered up some Acme fuse holders this morning and need to get some decent stands made up for the little guys.
And replace the socks which Fido hosed down, the miserable inbred rodent.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43311)
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Post by: Wallacefl on 27 Feb 2011, 03:08 pm: Quote from: oboaudio on 10 Feb 2011, 11:03 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=42619)
My hybrid speaker system
(http://)
I am interested in such a set-up using my Martin Logan CLSZ2...assuming a limited supply of Tympany woofers...what would be a good (alternative) older Maggie to consider to try out for woofer duty only
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Post by: oboaudio on 28 Feb 2011, 02:32 pm: Magneplanar Tympani IV and Tympani ID bass panels are two panel systems and would
be my choice. These bass panels provide superb bass down to below 30 hz. The
smaller Maggies do not have enough surface area and would not extend low enough.
In my situation the Martin Logan electrostatics were good down to 270 hz and the
Magneplanar Typmpani IV bass panels from that point down to below 30 hz, followed
by the Eminent Technology Rotary woofer taking the response to below 1 hz. Finding
either of these in very good shape is not going to be easy. Also to balance and
drive the Maggie bass panels I used a Audio Research D400MKII power amp with
400 watts per channel and controlled utilizing a Mark Levinson 380S preamp. The
preamp has a volume control with .1 db increments and balancing the bass with the
Summits is precise. The Summits are driven by a Arcam AVR600 Receiver which has a
high current output and handles the capacitive load of the electrostatic speakers and
provides state of the art sound.
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Post by: SteveFord on 1 Mar 2011, 01:44 am: Our own Jazzman has been busy with a project which might prove to be of interest. He's a talented fellow, all right.

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=92003.0
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Post by: SteveFord on 8 Mar 2011, 11:02 am: Low WAF but they'll get over it.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43862)
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Post by: chauss on 9 Apr 2011, 08:49 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45387)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45388)
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Post by: SteveFord on 10 Apr 2011, 12:09 am: Better pic of Chauss' Apogees.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45392)
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Post by: oboaudio on 10 Apr 2011, 02:56 pm: Apogee Scintilla's, Stages and Hill Plasma
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45420)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 17 Apr 2011, 07:15 pm: I thought my fellow planar porn addicts here might appreciate these DIY full range electrostats built by my friend Roger (SM7UYJ) over at the DIY Audio Forum:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45731)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45732)
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Post by: SteveFord on 17 Apr 2011, 09:18 pm: Those are beautiful.
Interesting thread, too:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/planars-exotics/181041-my-2-nd-esl-attempt.html
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Post by: JRace on 6 May 2011, 08:56 pm: Beautiful!!
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Post by: kevinh on 8 May 2011, 09:03 pm: Some images of Sound Labs:

in Ray Kimber's iso mike set up front :o channels

(http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue30/images/02.-Stan-&-Sound-Labs.jpg)

(http://blog.stereophile.com/rmaf2008/Kimber-450.jpg)

(http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/3x06/denver/kimber.jpg)

(http://www.soundstage2.com/lasvegas2008/jan10a/isomike_room_pop.jpg)
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Post by: Ryo on 12 May 2011, 03:28 am: Hello world :D
I'm putting up a couple of photos of my system, the legendary Infinity IRS BETA

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2qa0jtg.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/29gmzo9.jpg)
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Post by: lancruiser on 3 Jun 2011, 03:32 pm: Hello,

Attached are pics of my planar system;

Oppo BDP-95 universal player.
Logitech Transporter
Placette Active line stage / Wyred 4 Sound STP SE preamps
Behringer DCX-2496 digiatl XO / Behringer DEQ-2496 EQ
(3) Sanders Magtech Amplifiers (Regulated power supplies, Yay!)
Sanders 10c ESL/TL hybrid loudspeaker system
Not shown (4) Aurasound NS-18 woofers to be deployed in a dipole subwoofer array

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=47419)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=47420)
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Post by: auplater on 8 Jun 2011, 12:41 am: System a few years back, home built with BG's and ATC's.. local black cherry baffles
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/auplater/stereo/FRNT.jpg)

one of 4 sonosubs in distributed array
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/auplater/stereo/P1010008.jpg)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 8 Jun 2011, 02:18 pm: Quote from: lancruiser on 3 Jun 2011, 03:32 pm
Hello,

Attached are pics of my planar system;

Oppo BDP-95 universal player.
Logitech Transporter
Placette Active line stage / Wyred 4 Sound STP SE preamps
Behringer DCX-2496 digiatl XO / Behringer DEQ-2496 EQ
(3) Sanders Magtech Amplifiers (Regulated power supplies, Yay!)
Sanders 10c ESL/TL hybrid loudspeaker system
Not shown (4) Aurasound NS-18 woofers to be deployed in a dipole subwoofer array

I would love to hear your Sanders electrostats. Curved panels are in vogue but I think flat panel stats sound better.
I've not had opportunity meet Roger Sanders or audition his speakers but he's been a great inspiration to me and a nice guy too -- we talk by phone occasionally and he's provided invaluable help with my DIY electrostat project. I have the Behringer DCX and DEQ that you're using too -- setup for 3-way, driving hybrid flat-panel electrostats and a pair of Ripole subs. I've read mixed reviews about the Behringers -- some liking them and some alleging they're below hi-fi standards unless you mod them or bypass their DAC's -- but I'm very pleased with mine, right out of the box.

Great Looking system!
Jazzman
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Post by: tdangelo on 1 Jul 2011, 09:08 pm: Analysis Audio Amphitryon with reference external crossovers.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=48362)
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Post by: megasat16 on 1 Jul 2011, 11:04 pm: Nice Speaker Porns! Apogee Planars always strike me as the best looking in the planar group. May be it's just me feeling warm and fuzzy after looking so many porn. :duh:
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Post by: Faust3D on 17 Aug 2011, 04:45 pm: Some of my planar speakers, past and present

Electrostatic

(http://www.faust3d.com/Forum/pics/HeadFi/MY_SETUP/Stax_system_11272010.jpg)

Planar tweeter

(http://www.faust3d.com/Forum/pics/HeadFi/MY_SETUP/System_2011_08_3.jpg)

(http://www.faust3d.com/Forum/pics/HeadFi/MY_SETUP/System_full_112609.jpg)
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Post by: Don_S on 17 Aug 2011, 06:19 pm: Faust3D

Welcome to AudioCircle. :thumb: I am sure many would appreciate seeing your pictures. This link tells you how to post them correctly. Lots of new kids get it wrong. :scratch:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=40968.0

Edit: OK, I see you have figured it out and updated your post. I will leave my post with the link to instructions since this topic appears to be attracting a lot of newbies. This is a great circle and I am glad it is attracting new blood.
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Post by: Faust3D on 17 Aug 2011, 08:46 pm: Sorry about that, my hosting is acting up.
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 7 Sep 2011, 09:53 pm: New photos:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=51019)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=51078)
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Post by: BobM on 19 Oct 2011, 03:13 pm: Here's my newly acquired and personally restored pair of Apogee Calipers

(http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1301672349.jpg)

and just to make it official ...

(http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3037.0;attach=1473;image)

Driven by a McCormack DNA 500, Audio Prism Mantissa preamp, Ayre CX7eMP CD, Hagerman Trumpet phonostage with a Piccolo step-up, a cloned VPI turntable, Moerch DP6 arm and Transfiguration Temper cartridge.
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Post by: BobM on 21 Oct 2011, 02:04 pm: Oh well, for those with imagination it was a picture of Lonewolf leaning on the Calipers, with a beer in hand.

Admin - you can certeinly delete the post with a bad pic URL if you wish to.
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Post by: SteveFord on 20 Nov 2011, 10:57 pm: One of the problems confronting planar speaker owners is the low WAF (wife acceptance factor). Many lady planar owners face the same dilemma.
Mine is a saint but even so, they do tend to dominate a room and resemble something from 2001: A Space Odyssey. What the hell was that thing, anyway?

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=53990)

The answer struck me like a bolt out of the blue - what is required is the ever popular doiley and a nice gernaium trick! My wife just loves it and I'll bet yours will, too.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=53991)

And with the holidays coming up, what could be more festive than adding a little fake snow courtesy of a plastic bag from the grocery store?

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=53992)

Add a couple of blinking lights and your Xmas decorating is done with a minimum of muss and fuss.
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Post by: josh358 on 21 Nov 2011, 10:21 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 20 Nov 2011, 10:57 pm
Mine is a saint but even so, they do tend to dominate a room and resemble something from 2001: A Space Odyssey. What the hell was that thing, anyway?

The monolith? A planar speaker, of course. The aliens scattered them like breadcrumbs, in the assumption that we would want to acquire a complete set.
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Post by: SteveFord on 21 Nov 2011, 11:51 pm: They saw that we were struggling with mono but weren't quite smart enough to develop stereo (let alone home theater)?
Now it makes sense, thanks!

Hey, Josh,
Where's the picture of your Tympanis?
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Post by: josh358 on 22 Nov 2011, 03:29 am: They're sitting in their boxes, alas . . . :-| Have to go back to Magnepan to get the dent repaired.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: BPT on 4 Dec 2011, 03:03 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=54557) (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=54556)
Inspired by the Soundlab Sallies (http://www.soundlab-speakers.com/accessories.htm) ($2170/pr.) I put these free-standing absorptive panels (24"x72") together for around $150. Had the cedar trim laying in my shed for about 10 yrs. and found the 4" acoustic foam on Ebay. Took me a couple hours to build. Mine works best around 30" behind my 6' OB panels (pix in this thread). The great thing is you can easily move them to dial in the sound you want. I highly recommend anyone setting up their Maggies, Logans, Sanders, etc... less than 10' from the rear wall, give them a try. My OBs were already 5' from the rear wall and the difference using the acoustic panels is big--greatly improving both tonal balance and imaging.
Chris H.
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Post by: code4246 on 18 Dec 2011, 08:49 am: Stax F81's are pure magic !

Quote from: Faust3D on 17 Aug 2011, 04:45 pm
Some of my planar speakers, past and present

Electrostatic

(http://www.faust3d.com/Forum/pics/HeadFi/MY_SETUP/Stax_system_11272010.jpg)
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Post by: jamesbos on 6 Feb 2012, 06:40 pm: (http://)
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Post by: jamesbos on 6 Feb 2012, 11:43 pm: This is the diaphragm layout for a full range planar using 50 x 18 x 10 mm ferrite magnets, this is my latest rebuild using the epsilon layout.
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Post by: SteveFord on 7 Feb 2012, 11:07 pm: Could you repost your photos? They didn't load correctly for whatever reason.
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Post by: Rclark on 7 Feb 2012, 11:17 pm: I love all these systems! I wish I could have and listen to them all.
Title: my SMG 32 years young
Post by: tabrink on 7 Feb 2012, 11:45 pm: :lol:
Last 28 years in the factory box in the game room closet on a shelf.
However...They sound very nice. Very accurate reproduction.. especiallly piano passages
Not quite like the full sound of my venerable 1.6 QRs but might be easier to fit in my casket! :thumb:
Tom

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=57692)
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Post by: SteveFord on 8 Feb 2012, 12:28 am: 28 years?!?
They've held up okay after all that time?
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Post by: tabrink on 8 Feb 2012, 05:45 am: They actually still look like brand new. There are a couple of very slight age spots (slightly lightened ) but nary a scratch anywhere. No rust on the feet etc. I do love their sound and can describe it as very accurate from 50hz up.
Mids are sweet and the highs a little light for my tastes. These are not drivin' hard heavy rock speakers and at times I think they get a little bit overwhelmed if driven too hard with marginal amps.
But instrumentals and voice are their sweet spot. Classical guitar and piano solos are sublime.
I use them with mid 70's vintage muscle receivers and they just sing.
Tom
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Post by: Rclark on 8 Feb 2012, 07:00 am: What are those??
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Post by: *Scotty* on 8 Feb 2012, 07:53 am: Those are SMGs if I am not mistaken. They look like the pair I bought in 1981. I used them for 5 years in my main system until I replaced them with MG IIIs. They had a basic 1st order network which I promptly upgraded with better caps.
They then served as the rear channels in my system when I watched movies. They were fed by a Fosgate surround processor and driven by the power amp half of a NAD 3020. For $500 they were a taste of the high life and a true bargain. They did lead straight to the hard stuff though and fueled the desire for the MGIIIs.
Scotty
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Post by: Rclark on 8 Feb 2012, 08:09 am: First gen stuff. Might wanna keep those in the family, keep everything and they could eventually go up in value like a classic car.
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Post by: tabrink on 8 Feb 2012, 04:27 pm: Quote from: Rclark on 8 Feb 2012, 08:09 am
First gen stuff. Might wanna keep those in the family, keep everything and they could eventually go up in value like a classic car.

Yup they are the original almost bookshelf maggie...SMG :scratch:
They actually were $900 in 1980. Not going anywhere as I really enjoy walking into my study/library and seeing them kind of like some my 100 year old classic books. Hearing them cooing in the background is very comforting on cold nights and SMG with coffee on a Saturday morning is satisfying as well.
We live in a FLW inspired 100+ year old home complete with his and hers libraries, 59 windows and 32 year old maggies, vintage Pioneer , Kenwood and Rotel muscle power plants and the SMG just seem to fit here.
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Post by: sachi on 8 Feb 2012, 05:39 pm: Just a pair of Magnepan 1.6s. Headphones are Wharfedale Isodynamic in custom afzelia burl cups and Stax O2mk1.

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3826/img5921b.jpg)

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5870/img5922g.jpg)
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Post by: Big Red Machine on 8 Feb 2012, 06:10 pm: Some seriously nice systems here. I remember my Acoustat 3300 days drive by Hafler gear including an XL600. Way back in the day my large corporate employer actually owned Rockford and I was able to get spare parts before they were all gone. But alas the speakers are long gone now.
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 14 Feb 2012, 02:14 am: Yesterday I installed a stereo in my friend Jason's car. In exchange, he put together this planar porn video for me:

http://vimeo.com/36732172
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Post by: steve k on 14 Feb 2012, 02:21 am: Very cool! I used to have some of that Carver gear. Still sexy!!
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 14 Feb 2012, 02:35 am: I love Carver equipment. Next month I plan to meet the BobFather himself (Bob Carver) at the Axpona 2012 Audio Show in Jacksonville FL. The BobFather has come out of retirement and is now marketing tube amps with awesome power. I can't wait to hear them. He's even gonna bring back a 900 watt/channel version of his infamous Silver Seven tube mono blocks.
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Post by: airhead on 14 Feb 2012, 04:38 am: Quote from: code4246 on 18 Dec 2011, 08:49 am
Stax F81's are pure magic !

Stax F83's are stacked Stax F81's---double the magic. I use mine with Roger Modjeski's subwoofers and electronic crossovers. Those who want to share the magic should check with Kent McCollum of Electrostatic Solutions, who rebuilds these. He may have a pair or two for sale coming up.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=57945)
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Post by: kevin360 on 29 Feb 2012, 11:13 pm: Here's the main system - in the cave...

(http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s449/kpcrowley/audio%20gear/IMG_8600_zpsb50e1741.jpg)
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Post by: Rclark on 1 Mar 2012, 04:31 am: Stunning!
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Post by: medium jim on 2 Mar 2012, 04:50 am: Please excuse my housekeeping:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=58846)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=58847)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=58848)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=58849)

Looks cluttered and unkemp, but when I close my eyes and listen, it is the most beautiful place in the world!

Jim
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Post by: Rclark on 2 Mar 2012, 05:04 am: that's a cool looking vintage rig all around. Even your system looks comfy and lived in. :D
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Post by: Marius on 5 Mar 2012, 07:48 am: HI Airhead,

That's a nice cd-cabinet you have there. Is it custom-made?

Marius
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Post by: Marius on 5 Mar 2012, 07:49 am: HI Airhead,

That's a nice cd-cabinet you have there. Is it custom-made?

Marius

Quote from: airhead on 14 Feb 2012, 04:38 am
Stax F83's are stacked Stax F81's---double the magic. I use mine with Roger Modjeski's subwoofers and electronic crossovers. Those who want to share the magic should check with Kent McCollum of Electrostatic Solutions, who rebuilds these. He may have a pair or two for sale coming up.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=57945)
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Post by: jimdgoulding on 5 Mar 2012, 01:09 pm: Most interesting speakers, Airhead. Way to go, dude. You, too, Jazzman.
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Post by: jimdgoulding on 5 Mar 2012, 02:15 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 8 Mar 2011, 11:02 am
Low WAF but they'll get over it.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=43862)
Love to hear those with some super amplification and in a larger room. Those are the big Sound Labs, right? They cost a pretty penny.
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Post by: jimdgoulding on 5 Mar 2012, 02:19 pm: Quote from: oboaudio on 10 Apr 2011, 02:56 pm
Apogee Scintilla's, Stages and Hill Plasma
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45420)
Man, that is quite a collection. Cheers.
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Post by: thunderbrick on 5 Mar 2012, 02:55 pm: That is a helluva big lava lamp, man! What are those little white devices on top of the Apogees?
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Post by: J. Royce Baron on 11 Mar 2012, 01:28 am: (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/VinylSpinner/DSC_00126.jpg)
Work in progress …

Good to see the usual suspects here :wink:

Jonathan
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Post by: medium jim on 11 Mar 2012, 02:16 am: Hi Jonathan! Good to see you over here....Is your left arm still working the 90 degree angle glass lift?

Jim
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Post by: MaggiesAndCats on 12 Mar 2012, 03:08 pm: Some changes have been made in the setup, but the basics are the same. There are bookcases behind each speaker now.

Regards,

Steve

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=59413)
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Post by: J. Royce Baron on 12 Mar 2012, 04:18 pm: Jim who’s the lovely child in your avatar?

Jonathan
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Post by: medium jim on 13 Mar 2012, 12:34 am: Quote from: J. Royce Baron on 12 Mar 2012, 04:18 pm
Jim who’s the lovely child in your avatar?

Jonathan

Jonathan:

It's not my daughter :thumb:

Jim
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Post by: thunderbrick on 13 Mar 2012, 12:35 am: Your granddaughter, then? :lol:
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Post by: medium jim on 13 Mar 2012, 12:41 am: Brick, she's not that old :o :lol: 8)
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Post by: thunderbrick on 13 Mar 2012, 01:05 am: The girl in the photo is too young to be your granddaughter? Now I understand.
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Post by: J. Royce Baron on 13 Mar 2012, 01:14 am: Regardless of the affiliation - the young lady possesses great genes! :wink:
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Post by: medium jim on 13 Mar 2012, 01:22 am: Brick, all kidding aside, she is in her mid 20's.

Jim
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Post by: MtnHam on 12 May 2012, 06:16 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=62536)
Sound Lab Majestic 945's
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Post by: denny9167 on 19 May 2012, 07:44 pm: Quote from: BPT on 30 Oct 2010, 04:22 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37925)
Here is a picture of the BPT OB planar/dynamic system from RMAF 2009. Upper section is a BG RD75 in an OB with angled wings. Lower section is an OB of four DPL-15" from DIY Audio per side. Crossover and EQ is with DEQX.

I love the RD-75's,adding a subwoofer system to mine this weekend,using Mark IV's for amplification simply stunning sound.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=62771)
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Post by: Rclark on 7 Jun 2012, 07:06 am: Quote from: MtnHam on 12 May 2012, 06:16 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=62536)
Sound Lab Majestic 945's

Wow! What are they like?
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Post by: boynamedsue on 20 Jun 2012, 02:06 am: Those are some huge speakers. It must have been a challenge to get them inside.
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Post by: boynamedsue on 20 Jun 2012, 02:16 am: My humble setup...Magnepan 3.6s.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=64175)
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Post by: Nils on 23 Jun 2012, 05:13 am: Modded by yours truly for 3-way active use, powered by Bryston 7B-SSTs for the bass and Quicksilver V4 tube amps for the rest.

(http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1227922480.jpg)

-- Nils
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Post by: kevin360 on 24 Jun 2012, 01:07 am: Hey Nils,

That photo is rather bittersweet, I should imagine. Have you decided what you’re going to do in the new abode? Look at it this way: the journey is part of the fun. :D Still, you were ‘there’ :thumb:, but the cool thing is that there are lots of ‘theres’. I have no doubt that you’ll find another one. When you do; post a picture. That’ll be a totally sweet photo!

Cheers,
Kevin
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Post by: Nils on 12 Jul 2012, 09:39 pm: I'm keeping it... albeit with less acoustic treatment and the speakers closer to the walls. I'm trying to figure out a way to house all the amps in a more discreet manner though. My bedroom is 14 x 16 with a decent wall for the setup, and I doubt I could do better without bleeding money (and I just bought the house, so I'm bleeding money enough as it is!).

I might paint the trim and audio stands too... altar makeover!

-- Nils
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Post by: jimdgoulding on 13 Jul 2012, 01:33 am: Ooooh. That is a handsome system there, Nils. Bet it plays as good as it looks. Love the bi-amping idea. In my hands a turntable and a phono pre would be added and I'd hope for more space. Shoulda had this when I had a small barn (18'X25' with a concrete floor) for a listening room. Best wishes on your new digs. NICE system.
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Post by: kevin360 on 14 Jul 2012, 12:10 am: That's good news, Nils! :thumb:

I'm glad you're going to give that system a chance in the new environment. I'm very interested in how it works – can you capture the same magic? How deeply does the room influence the sound we get from our systems? I'm sorry, but I confess an intellectual curiosity. Regardless, I think you invested a great deal of thought and capital in your system and I'm honestly happy that you are planning to hang on to it – I know I'd miss the hell out of mine (and mine is simple – only have the one amp, and I'm using the stock XOs).

Keep us posted.
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Post by: bzr on 29 Jul 2012, 07:50 am: The system as it is, MSB Diamond DAC IV, MSB S200 amp,qol & Summit X speakers,all fed from MBPro ssd

(http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g338/_bzr_/MYMSB3.jpg)
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Post by: SteveFord on 29 Jul 2012, 12:28 pm: You guys are making me realize what a slob I really am.
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Post by: ptmconsulting on 30 Jul 2012, 06:12 pm: Replaced my Apogee Calipers recently with Duetta Signatures. Bigger soundstage, bigger sound and tonality. Punchier. All in all a very nice upgrade.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=65841)
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Post by: josh358 on 30 Jul 2012, 10:10 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 29 Jul 2012, 12:28 pm
You guys are making me realize what a slob I really am.

That's just for the pictures. I bet the moment they've been taken, they dump all the old clothes and Chinese food containers back on the floor!
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Post by: medium jim on 30 Jul 2012, 11:28 pm: Quote from: josh358 on 30 Jul 2012, 10:10 pm
That's just for the pictures. I bet the moment they've been taken, they dump all the old clothes and Chinese food containers back on the floor!

Josh:

Me too, but I close my eyes when I'm listening to music :~)

Jim
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Post by: klao on 6 Aug 2012, 03:42 pm: (http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk29/ksanasen/IMG_0579.jpg)

No space at home for them yet. Keeping my pair at the dealer to run them in for a few months. :green:
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Post by: J-Pak on 6 Aug 2012, 04:03 pm: Some great looking set ups here! I'll see about snapping some pics this weekend.
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Post by: bakufu on 6 Aug 2012, 04:22 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66120)

the tv is for blu-ray and dvd audio, but the system is intended for audio.

emerald physics cs 1.3's with amplification by modwright and ampzilla. i've just finished recabling with spatial computer's "quantum field" cable. not visible: a spatial computer "black hole" unit.

the system is still breaking in. it replaces a pair of apogee divas and a big hot krell monster.

due in soon: a pair of subs from nathan funk.
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 7 Aug 2012, 01:37 am: For your erotic planar fantasies:
Here's a pair of DIY full-range ESL speakers from a fellow builder on the DIY Audio Forum. The craftsmanship is really outstanding: http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/planars-exotics/199519-some-more-questions-els-design-13.html#post3117215

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66166)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66167)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66168)
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Post by: nocrapman on 7 Aug 2012, 02:22 am: Wow these are phenomenal - mission furniture meet planars!
Quarter sawn oak, through tenons and the works!
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Post by: Roger Gustavsson on 10 Aug 2012, 05:44 am: Quote from: Nils on 23 Jun 2012, 05:13 am
Modded by yours truly for 3-way active use, powered by Bryston 7B-SSTs for the bass and Quicksilver V4 tube amps for the rest.

(http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1227922480.jpg)

-- Nils

Hi Nils,

Is that MG 3.6? What kind of covers (cloth) is that? Seems to be a lot more transparent than normal Mangepan covers.

Roger
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Post by: MtnHam on 13 Aug 2012, 02:47 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66382)
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Post by: MtnHam on 13 Aug 2012, 03:08 am: Quote from: Rclark on 7 Jun 2012, 07:06 am

Wow! What are they like?

Being the largest of the Sound Lab family with 3124 square inches (each) of radiating membrane, they move a lot of air! And they are the most efficient and easiest to drive. Exciting all the air in the room results in a very natural presentation that can be enjoyed anywhere in the room and beyond. No beaming. And the bass response is lower (24hz) than the smaller models. For a planar lover, they are heaven!
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Post by: medium jim on 13 Aug 2012, 03:12 am: Quote from: bakufu on 6 Aug 2012, 04:22 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66120)

the tv is for blu-ray and dvd audio, but the system is intended for audio.

emerald physics cs 1.3's with amplification by modwright and ampzilla. i've just finished recabling with spatial computer's "quantum field" cable. not visible: a spatial computer "black hole" unit.

the system is still breaking in. it replaces a pair of apogee divas and a big hot krell monster.

due in soon: a pair of subs from nathan funk.

Not only is your system beautiful, so is your backyard!

Jim
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Post by: Legis on 16 Aug 2012, 10:26 pm: ESLs and U-frame subs and some led lightning color demonstration:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b9cXebOa0m0/UC0c6FG52nI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/YkTapb_X3qc/s800/DSC_0093.JPG)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D5Rpag8lcOw/UC0c7hZ7JTI/AAAAAAAAAG0/56TVpjdPkwE/s800/DSC_0095.JPG) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JtItSp606Jg/UC0c72jSZYI/AAAAAAAAAGw/8cRsCcaceEg/s800/DSC_0096.JPG) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T6u1gGLrvtQ/UC0c-H4VlII/AAAAAAAAAHU/vKGk41JibHE/s800/DSC_0098.JPG) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RqIqYE8H3O4/UC0c_4BKd9I/AAAAAAAAAHM/xrPn2U0VC9c/s800/DSC_0102.JPG)

Here's a vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS5dVxdDtEw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS5dVxdDtEw)

Regards,

Legis
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 17 Aug 2012, 02:21 am: Welcome Legis,
Glad to see a fellow builder from the DIY Audio Forum here. BTW, your post doesn't mention that you built those awesome speakers yourself. :thumb:
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Post by: TONEPUB on 17 Aug 2012, 02:30 am: Quote from: MtnHam on 13 Aug 2012, 02:47 am
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66382)

Really nice system! I'd love to hear those big Sound Labs!
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Post by: Legis on 20 Aug 2012, 12:10 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 17 Aug 2012, 02:21 am
Welcome Legis,
Glad to see a fellow builder from the DIY Audio Forum here. BTW, your post doesn't mention that you built those awesome speakers yourself. :thumb:

Hi Jazzman, the ESLs were built by Crescendo Systems, but I basically did reconstruct the stat panels (insulation of the stators, new membrane, new spacers) my self. Woofers are fully DIY :).
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Post by: kiwi_1282001 on 15 Sep 2012, 04:04 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=67758)

Kingsound - The Prince II ESL
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Post by: andyr on 15 Sep 2012, 09:53 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 4 Oct 2010, 12:16 am

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36588)

What are these speakers, Jazzman?

Regards,

Andy
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Post by: Davey on 15 Sep 2012, 10:09 pm: Andy,

Charlie has an excellent write-up on his terrific ESL project here:

http://jazzman-esl-page.blogspot.com/

kiwi,

You photo looks like it's from a magazine. You ever have any empty pizza boxes and beer bottles floating around that listening room? :)

Dave.
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Post by: andyr on 15 Sep 2012, 10:58 pm: Quote from: Davey on 15 Sep 2012, 10:09 pm
Andy,

Charlie has an excellent write-up on his terrific ESL project here:

http://jazzman-esl-page.blogspot.com/

Dave.

Thanks, Dave - very interesting. :)

Regards,

Andy
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Post by: kiwi_1282001 on 16 Sep 2012, 12:25 am: Quote from: Davey on 15 Sep 2012, 10:09 pm

kiwi,

You photo looks like it's from a magazine. You ever have any empty pizza boxes and beer bottles floating around that listening room? :)

Dave.

LoL. I cleaned them all up before taking the photo! When listening (rather than photo taking) a can of beer is not far away.
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Post by: TNRabbit on 20 Sep 2012, 08:41 am: Quote from: andyr on 15 Sep 2012, 09:53 pm
What are these speakers, Jazzman?

Regards,

Andy

Custom electrostatic hybrids he built.
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Post by: TNRabbit on 20 Sep 2012, 09:08 am: Pics of my Carver AL-IIIs & Carver/Sunfire system. I've removed the passive crossovers & am running fully active setup.

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/DSC02584.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/DSC02583.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/DSC02582.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/DSC02577.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/DSC02575.jpg)

I've modified the AL-IIIs substantially. Original woofer replaced with Infinity Kappa Perfect 10.1:

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/DSC03014.jpg)

...installed stainless blind T-nuts & hex-head bolts w/star washers:

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/DSC02974.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/DSC02972.jpg)

...replaced the original crossover panel:

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/DSC02793.jpg)

...with custom stainless steel panels (please excuse the fingerprints!):

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/DSC02831.jpg)

Custom made Carver labels top & bottom:

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/DSC03289.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/DSC03286.jpg)

Approved by "Bob"~
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TNRabbit/Audio/2012-10-10_11-15-36_86-1.jpg)
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Post by: pdaddy on 26 Sep 2012, 10:14 pm: My latest acquisition. 2.7's! Love the bass! Looking forward to moving up to a bigger solid state amp.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=68335)
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Post by: jsm71 on 30 Oct 2012, 07:02 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=70086)
New JansZen zA2.1 hybrid ESLs. Just got these set up this past weekend. So far they sound great. Don't be fooled by their size. They can play big. The wide photo angle is distorting the cabinet shape at the edges just a little. Sorry.
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Post by: SteveFord on 30 Oct 2012, 08:03 pm: How do you find the JansZens to be compared to your 1.7s now that they're in your home?
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Post by: jsm71 on 31 Oct 2012, 12:50 pm: The JansZens are so different than Maggies in so many ways that comparisons may not be relevant and against the 1.7s the price makes it an unfair fight.

We can't help ourselves however when we get something new to compare against the incumbent. On sound alone:

1. The JansZen's ESL panels top any Maggie on midrange and high frequency clarity and realism. I have heard more than one Maggie with the true ribbon tweeter and my comment stands. I think any properly designed ESL takes this point. The ESL approach was what caught my attention to begin with. :thumb:
2. The JansZens can play much louder and without distortion despite their small size.
3. The JansZens have a much wider sweetspot than the 1.7s. I used my 1.7s with the tweeters in, and that I know narrowed the spot to one seat. Still, point to the JansZens.
4. The soundstage seems wider with the JansZens and is different. Placement plays a large part here and the 1.7s demanded a very different placement.
5. The Maggies have a taller soundstage, but this is only in my small room. I tried the JansZens briefly also in my large family room and from across the room the stage was huge. They are tilted back for time allignment, but this also raises the stage over distance.
6. The 1.7s and the JansZens both are rated at bass to 40Hz. I have a lot yet to listen to so I'll hold off on bass comments. Both have excellent bass qualities but obviously very different approaches.
7. Both speakers are totally seamless across the full frequency range.
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Post by: SteveFord on 1 Nov 2012, 12:31 am: $7500 versus $2000, that's a bit of a difference so it might be an apples and oranges kind of thing.
They certainly would help with the dreaded WAF as long as she didn't see the price tag. The wives I've had tend to get an itchy trigger finger at around the $1000 mark and look at me all squint eyed which I don't think is very nice of them.
Congratulations on your purchase!
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 1 Nov 2012, 02:00 am: Those JanZen's aren't dipoles like most other ESL's. It would be intersting to know what absorption materials are used in those cabinets to absorb the electrotats' backwave energy. Since ESL diaphragms are exceedingly low-mass, it follows that they must therefore be exceedingly sensitive to rebounding cabinet resonances. However, I've read rave reviews about the JanZen's so the resonances are apparently tamed. I'm wondering how they pulled it off... that is; how they tamped down the cabinet resonances or isolated the diaphragms from them. Harold Beveridge did something similar; although his cabinets were necessarily huge.
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Post by: josh358 on 2 Nov 2012, 02:36 am: That's an interesting question. The only Janszen hybrid with which I'm familiar is something like 50 years old at this point, so I don't think it's much of a guide to current construction practices! The only enclosed speakers I know of that solve this problem do so by using heroic construction, e.g., the Magicos, and have prices and masses to match.
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Post by: jsm71 on 2 Nov 2012, 12:14 pm: I wouldn't say David JansZen's construction is heroic or even exotic, but he builds a very solid cabinet. The outside cabinet is a full 1" think high quality MDF. The ESL panels and each woofer are sealed in their own sub-enclosures and damped (I didn't ask about the materials for damping). David did show me the inner box for the ESL panels and how that allows the backside to be managed. I'm not a manufacturer or tweaker so I'm more interested in the sound than the construction, but these are well thought out and I know from talking to David that he sweats out these details. I can attest that I am not hearing even a hint of cabinet reasonances, even at solid volumes. I suspect I will get driver limits with the JansZens before the cabinet complains. The front baffle is also 2 1/2" solid hardwood. Pretty to look at and a contributor to the solid build.

Cabinet buzz was one area where I raised an eyebrow when I heard the Sanders 10c system at RMAF last year. When he pushed the system hard with some organ music he went a little too far and there was clear cabinet ring from his transmission line bass enclosure. Very nice sounding system otherwise, and it should be for $13k.
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 3 Nov 2012, 02:25 am: I wasn't really thinking about the cabinet walls themselves vibrating but, rather, back-waves rebounding off the box walls and back to the diaphragm. It seems to me that cavity resonances would exist even in a perfectly rigid cabinet and these would have to be dampened in some way or you would hear resulting vibrations in the diaphragm.
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Post by: ehoove on 5 Nov 2012, 07:59 pm: Tri-amped Maple frame MGIIIa's with stands and NHT W2 subs!
Regards,
Jim
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=70388)
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Post by: MrAcoustat on 23 Nov 2012, 09:03 pm: Acoustat father & son.

Acoustat 1+1 modified all steel frame. ( 1984 )
(http://static.diyaudio.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_1_1_02.jpg)

(http://static.diyaudio.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Interface_760x570_01.jpg)

(http://static.diyaudio.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_Steel_Frame_041.jpg)

(http://static.diyaudio.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_Steel_Frame_111.jpg)

(http://static.diyaudio.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_1_1_01.jpg)

MrAcoustat & the Spectra 8800 rebuilt by Jocelyn Jeanson Quebec Canada all steel frame 800 pounds.
PS: No problem with bass output with these they can realy rock IF YOU WISH. :) :) :)
(http://static.diyaudio.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_Spectra_8800_05.jpg)

Many more photos in my Flickr photo galery - - - - - http://www.flickr.com/photos/mracoustat/
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Post by: jimdgoulding on 23 Nov 2012, 11:00 pm: Shouldn't judge a speaker by one experience and using one type of music. Given that caveat, the Acoustat 1+1's with a Linn Sondek front end and a Spectral power and pre on a couple of choral recordings of mine (one was Mark Levinson, the other a Proprius and I still have them) just slayed me where I stood. As close to heavenly as I can imagine. Seriously beautiful playback. Thanks. I've said that before and will likely say it again cause it is indelibly burnt into my soul. Don't care if they couldn't rock like Rockport's. Would have bought them, too, but I moved to the country and into a modified barn as my listening room. So, I bought some Model Three's instead with a Counterpoint SA5 and a Precision Fidelty tube pre and a pair of Kenwood LO7 150w monoblocks's. Those I could afford. When I bought the Kenwood's they were $350 a piece at Pacific Stereo. I had Fulton IC's in those days. Anybody else ever used those? I think they may have started the whole IC and PC trend.
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Post by: jimdgoulding on 26 Nov 2012, 04:53 am: By the way, I think your steel frame idea just rocks! Very pretty cats, too.
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Post by: MrAcoustat on 26 Nov 2012, 05:53 am: Quote from: jimdgoulding on 26 Nov 2012, 04:53 am
By the way, I think your steel frame idea just rocks! Very pretty cats, too.

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u564/mracoustat/Acoustat1101_zps2c546008.jpg)

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u564/mracoustat/AcoustatSpectra880005_zpsc4353978.jpg)

Thank's Jim
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Post by: jhm731 on 28 Dec 2012, 12:38 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=72929)
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Post by: rooze on 2 Jan 2013, 04:01 pm: Love my lil Carver Amazing's :)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=73200)
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Post by: SteveFord on 2 Jan 2013, 09:37 pm: I've helped move that model, those aren't so little!
How do you like those amps?
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Post by: steve in jersey on 2 Jan 2013, 09:55 pm: Boy, I'm batting 0 for 2 today . At first glance I thought they were Apogee, but I remembered the ribbons looked different.
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Post by: rooze on 2 Jan 2013, 10:12 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 2 Jan 2013, 09:37 pm
I've helped move that model, those aren't so little!
How do you like those amps?
I'm really enjoying the Ampzilla's. Picked them up just before the holiday and they're working really well with the Carver Amazing. I may have to try them with a different preamp however. The Ampzilla has exceptional bass when hooked-up to a SS pre I have kicking around, but with the Supratek, it's just a tad softer.
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Post by: josh358 on 4 Jan 2013, 03:41 pm: Rooze, are you the same Rooze who first tried listening to Maggies edge-on? If so, you're famous. :-)
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Post by: rooze on 4 Jan 2013, 04:15 pm: Quote from: josh358 on 4 Jan 2013, 03:41 pm
Rooze, are you the same Rooze who first tried listening to Maggies edge-on? If so, you're famous. :-)

Ha ha...it's me :wink:

(though to be factual, the 'edge on' was someone else, I'm the 'sitting behind the speaker' guy :roll:
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Post by: josh358 on 5 Jan 2013, 12:41 am: Quote from: rooze on 4 Jan 2013, 04:15 pm
Ha ha...it's me :wink:

(though to be factual, the 'edge on' was someone else, I'm the 'sitting behind the speaker' guy :roll:
Well, it's now officially and forever the "Rooze Configuration," courtesy of JBen on the Asylum.
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Post by: MrAcoustat on 17 Feb 2013, 04:03 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 3 Nov 2012, 02:25 am
I wasn't really thinking about the cabinet walls themselves vibrating but, rather, back-waves rebounding off the box walls and back to the diaphragm. It seems to me that cavity resonances would exist even in a perfectly rigid cabinet and these would have to be dampened in some way or you would hear resulting vibrations in the diaphragm.

The problem to ME is the cabinets, TRUE planars don't have BOXES and that's MY personal choice.

PS: No matter how much the box cost's, a box is a box plain and simple, with electrostatics ALWAYS think outside the box. :) :) :)

Attention there are two JLs F-112 Fanthom subwoofers in this system, for my friend Jocelyn 24hz is not low enough with the subs it goes down to 14hz that is HIS CHOICE they are his speakers BUT for me i would not have subs.

(http://static.diyaudio.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_Spectra_8800_05.jpg)
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Post by: a.wayne on 17 Feb 2013, 05:33 pm: I see you and Joycelyn still fighting the fight Mr Acoustat ...... :thumb:
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Post by: GT Audio Works on 21 Feb 2013, 05:11 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=75686)
My speakers at Mike's rave
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Post by: jhm731 on 28 Feb 2013, 10:34 pm: mark levinson hqd

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/551476_581388031880446_1452293340_n.jpg)
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Post by: jhm731 on 28 Feb 2013, 10:35 pm: (http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/206547_118315648247344_5267327_n.jpg)
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Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 28 Feb 2013, 10:46 pm: Cool. That looks like fun!
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Post by: SteveFord on 28 Feb 2013, 11:15 pm: So it was Quad who made the 60s so swingin'!
It's all their fault.
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Post by: chrisby on 28 Feb 2013, 11:19 pm: Quote from: jhm731 on 28 Feb 2013, 10:35 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/206547_118315648247344_5267327_n.jpg)

Quads and cones, gotta luv it
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Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 1 Mar 2013, 02:31 am: By the way.....is it me, or is that Quad missing a leg?
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Post by: kevin360 on 1 Mar 2013, 02:38 am: Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on 1 Mar 2013, 02:31 am
By the way.....is it me, or is that Quad missing a leg?

Yep, Bob, it's you. :lol:

Look closely and you'll see that the leg in back is in the center.

---

I really dig that quad Quad setup! What are those bass units behind each pair? It looks like they have 18" drivers. I'd love to give that system a listen. :thumb:
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Post by: studiotech on 1 Mar 2013, 03:13 am: Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on 1 Mar 2013, 02:31 am
By the way.....is it me, or is that Quad missing a leg?

What Quad? I only see two perfectly fine legs and two other interesting items.... :lol:
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Post by: studiotech on 1 Mar 2013, 03:17 am: Was there a Decca ribbon btw the Quads in that stacked setup?

Greg
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Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 1 Mar 2013, 03:47 am: Quote from: kevin360 on 1 Mar 2013, 02:38 am
Yep, Bob, it's you. :lol:

Look closely and you'll see that the leg in back is in the center.
Ahhh, gotcha. Thanks!
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Post by: a.wayne on 1 Mar 2013, 07:27 am: Quote from: studiotech on 1 Mar 2013, 03:17 am
Was there a Decca ribbon btw the Quads in that stacked setup?

Greg

Yes ...!
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Post by: josh358 on 1 Mar 2013, 06:32 pm: Quote from: jhm731 on 28 Feb 2013, 10:34 pm
mark levinson hqd

Intense.
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Post by: MrAcoustat on 1 Mar 2013, 06:54 pm: Quote from: a.wayne on 17 Feb 2013, 05:33 pm
I see you and Joycelyn still fighting the fight Mr Acoustat ...... :thumb:

Yes whe are, me and my good friend disagree only on the use of SUBS, for him it's with them ( he as the room ) and for me it's without, i live in a condo and my Acoustat's 1+1s go down to 30hz and that is more than enough bass for me. :) :) :) the Spectra 8800s go down to 24hz without subs and 14 hz with the subs, two small JL's F-112 Fathom.
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Post by: chrisby on 1 Mar 2013, 08:32 pm: Quote from: studiotech on 1 Mar 2013, 03:13 am
What Quad? I only see two perfectly fine legs and two other interesting items.... :lol:

yeah, I couldn't resist - for now my current desktop - even in very low res she's food for thought
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Post by: GT Audio Works on 1 Mar 2013, 08:35 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=76195)
Since folks are bringing up one off speakers of the past....Nelson Pass Ion Cloud speaker...no moving parts !!
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Post by: sfdoddsy on 3 Mar 2013, 09:06 am: My new child enjoying my new speakers.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=76324)
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Post by: SteveFord on 3 Mar 2013, 01:37 pm: What a great picture.
That room looks gigantic.
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Post by: sfdoddsy on 3 Mar 2013, 01:49 pm: Actually, that shot makes it seem smaller than it is. This will give a better idea, albeit shot wide angle and with slightly smaller speakers.

:)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=76325)
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Post by: SteveFord on 3 Mar 2013, 04:02 pm: An old commercial property?
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Post by: Rocket_Ronny on 3 Mar 2013, 05:07 pm: A friend of mine had the Levinson HQD system with Hartley sub woofers. Before I met him he was a legend in the audio stores in Edmonton, Alberta Canada, in the Late 70s; how he bought the system with Bryston amps and everything blew up, mylar panels - amps, due to the speakers needing voltage limited power.

Later I got to know him on a friendship basis. He had sold the speakers and later bought them back again. I briefly heard them. They were so much a head in the vice speaker that Acoustat 2s seemed like freedom. Like move your head 6" and you were out of the zone. I never heard it set up like I would have and was not impressed. He later sold the speakers and bought Apogee Divas. He kept his Hartley subs though.

Rocket_Ronny
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Post by: Mr. Orange on 3 Mar 2013, 06:21 pm: MG12s modded by Peter Gunn at Magnestand. Definitely the best money I've ever spent on equipment. The electronics come and go but the speakers will stay! In fact neither of those racks reflect the latest change in gear. :green:
(http://gargoyle.smugmug.com/Music/music/i-FSZ6KJJ/0/L/DSCF8996-L.jpg)
(http://gargoyle.smugmug.com/Music/music/i-L4JxDFw/0/L/P1000002-L.jpg)
(http://gargoyle.smugmug.com/Music/music/i-m5vv5dh/0/L/P8211487-L.jpg)
(http://gargoyle.smugmug.com/Music/music/i-DqXHMkM/0/M/P1000185-M.jpg)
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Post by: MrAcoustat on 3 Mar 2013, 06:26 pm: Yes Mr.Gunn does great work, for me Magnepan is the second best bargain in audio.
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Post by: |Tch0rT| on 6 Apr 2013, 01:31 am: There's some sick setups on here!

MartinLogan ElectroMotion ESL fronts and MartinLogan Source rears
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20Home%20Theater/ht-may-2012.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20Home%20Theater/My-MartinLogan-HomeTheater-05.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20Home%20Theater/My-MartinLogan-HomeTheater-04.jpg)

Whole room before my newer TV
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20Home%20Theater/My-MartinLogan-HomeTheater-01.jpg)

EM ESL's & Source comparisons
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20ElectroMotion%20ESL/ml-em-esl-04.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20ElectroMotion%20ESL/ml-em-esl-03.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20ElectroMotion%20ESL/ml-em-esl-02.jpg)

Source close ups
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20Source/IMG_4797.jpg)

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x27/Dodkrieg/MartinLogan%20Source/IMG_4794.jpg)
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Post by: SteveFord on 12 May 2013, 11:50 am: I did a little fooling around to get the 20.7s to sound right in the room.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80350)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80351)
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Post by: medium jim on 12 May 2013, 06:27 pm: So Steve, do you use the ceiling fan for a Leslie Effect?

Jim
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Post by: josh358 on 14 May 2013, 01:48 am: It's an open-baffle rotary woofer.
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Post by: medium jim on 14 May 2013, 02:17 am: Quote from: josh358 on 14 May 2013, 01:48 am
It's an open-baffle rotary woofer.

I like it!

Jim
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Post by: josh358 on 14 May 2013, 02:49 am: $20,000 and guaranteed never to disturb the neighbors (or make any sound at all).
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Post by: TNRabbit on 14 May 2013, 09:40 am: Quote from: SteveFord on 12 May 2013, 11:50 am
I did a little fooling around to get the 20.7s to sound right in the room.

What does your "fooling around" have to do with the sound in the room??

:green:
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Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 14 May 2013, 12:53 pm: Quote from: josh358 on 14 May 2013, 01:48 am
It's an open-baffle rotary woofer.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's clever!
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Post by: SteveFord on 14 May 2013, 09:14 pm: Quote from: TNRabbit on 14 May 2013, 09:40 am
What does your "fooling around" have to do with the sound in the room??
:green:

It put me in a better mood...

Getting a cheap rug, moving the cabinet into the center and taking a CD carousel upstairs really made a big improvement in the sound.
I had to rotate the rug 90 degrees to get things to sound right to me. It's funny how such small changes can make such a large change in the way things sound.

P.S.
Lynda's comment: It doesn't sound any worse than the other ones!
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Post by: a.wayne on 11 Jun 2013, 12:33 pm: Quote from: Rocket_Ronny on 3 Mar 2013, 05:07 pm
A friend of mine had the Levinson HQD system with Hartley sub woofers. Before I met him he was a legend in the audio stores in Edmonton, Alberta Canada, in the Late 70s; how he bought the system with Bryston amps and everything blew up, mylar panels - amps, due to the speakers needing voltage limited power.

Later I got to know him on a friendship basis. He had sold the speakers and later bought them back again. I briefly heard them. They were so much a head in the vice speaker that Acoustat 2s seemed like freedom. Like move your head 6" and you were out of the zone. I never heard it set up like I would have and was not impressed. He later sold the speakers and bought Apogee Divas. He kept his Hartley subs though.

Rocket_Ronny

Thats not why they blew up, the brystons were not stable enuff driving those stacked quads ....:)
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Post by: SteveFord on 15 Jun 2013, 11:09 am: From Stereophile, T.H.E. Show Report, 2012
You'd think he'd look happier - maybe his wife just said "don't even think about it".

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=82194)
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Post by: josh358 on 15 Jun 2013, 12:35 pm: Hey, cool, the new Mini Maggies are out!
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Post by: zuluwarrior0760 on 18 Jun 2013, 11:50 pm: Magnepan 3.7
Bryston 7BSST2 Mono Amps
CAT SL1 Renaissance Phono Preamp
Esoteric K-03 SACD
Bryston BDP2 w/ 256 SSD
VPI Classic 3 w/ Lyra Kleos Cartridge
Kraz Clone Rack
Huffman ZX Interconnects
Bryston Speaker Cables

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=82381)
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Post by: SteveFord on 19 Jun 2013, 12:58 am: Very elegant with the black and silver combination.
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Post by: Mart on 23 Jun 2013, 03:55 am: Kudos! I didn't see THE SoundLabs ad
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Post by: MrAcoustat on 26 Aug 2013, 12:04 pm: Hi i am no longer using Photobucket so i have lost all of my PORN here in Audio Circle here are a few photos of for ME the best dollar for dollar electrostatic speakers ever built and yes they where made in the good old USA all models shown here where modified by my friend Jocelyn Jeanson of Quebec Canada if you want to see more i will add a link to my Flickr photo album thanks for looking.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mracoustat/

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=85871)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=85872)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=85873)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=85874)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=85875)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=85876)
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Post by: capwkidd on 26 Aug 2013, 11:45 pm: Where those all Acoustats? Is the first one 2+2's? I like tall slender stats.... my ceiling is only 8.2ft tall though...

Have you guys heard the Wisdom stats?

The top of the line models come with bass bins the size of refrigerators! And they sound amazing....

But I would hope so, as they are $120k!
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Post by: studiotech on 27 Aug 2013, 12:23 am: Quote from: capwkidd on 26 Aug 2013, 11:45 pm

Have you guys heard the Wisdom stats?

The top of the line models come with bass bins the size of refrigerators! And they sound amazing....

But I would hope so, as they are $120k!

These guys?

http://www.wisdomaudio.com/

They're planar.
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Post by: MrAcoustat on 27 Aug 2013, 12:29 am: Hi ALL double staked Acoustat's are 94 inches high the first pair shown are my modified 1+1s they are 14 inches wide 94 inches high 3 inches deep and weigh 200 pounds, the next one was my friend Jocelyn's old model 6 the one after that again Joceln's Spectra 66, next again this time Jocelyn's Spectra 8800s, next another friend's Spectra 4400 & 6600s and finaly another friends model 6 with wood and marble base to answer your question no whe have not heard the Wisdom line of speakers.

PS: They may be great speakers BUT there not electrostatics.
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Post by: capwkidd on 28 Aug 2013, 03:32 am: I thought Wisdom was electrostatic... oh well.... The top end ones sure sound nice :). I wonder what the prices are for everything else...
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Post by: JakeJ on 28 Aug 2013, 05:20 am: Howdy all,

I recently acquired a pair of naked Quad ESL speakers. Running them with my AudioKinesis Swarm Sub system and sounding just delicious. I am planning to power them with an EL-84 based amp for the long run.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=85964)

Having owned Martin Logans and Quad 988s in the past (also friends that own Magnepans) I am re-appreciating the purity that planar speakers provide.

Kudos to Mr. Ford and the participants of this circle. It's a good place!

Jake
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Post by: klao on 29 Oct 2013, 06:51 pm: Just got them last Saturday in my (almost finished) new room: Bryston 28B-SST/2 Pro + Maggie 20.7. Have to run them in a bit more, but so far, a pretty awesome combo.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk29/ksanasen/158360_zps263b3445.jpg)
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Post by: SteveFord on 29 Oct 2013, 06:57 pm: I was admiring those over on the Bryston Circle.
That's a BIG room you've got them in and that is an awfully nice system.
Congratulations on your purchase!
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Post by: Ron D on 29 Oct 2013, 07:04 pm: Beautiful looking room and treatments. Can you please advise what the distance from the back of the 20'7s is to the wall behind them?
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Post by: a.wayne on 29 Oct 2013, 07:56 pm: Sweeeeet stuff..... :thumb:
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Post by: klao on 30 Oct 2013, 07:39 am: Thank you all for your kind words.

The room is about 8.54 (L). x 5.94 (W). x 3.15/3.65 (H) in meters, or 28.0' x 19.4' x 10.3'/12'.

As of now, the bass panels are set to be about 1.70 meters from wall behind them, or around 1/5 of the room length.

The outside edges of the speakers are about 90 cm. away from the side walls.

I'm sitting around 4 meters away from the speakers, or roughly at the theoretically recommended 2/3 of the room length.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MtnHam on 4 Nov 2013, 11:52 pm: My best yet!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=89434)
SoundLab Ultimate-1PX electrostatic speakers

Another view:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=89435)

System:
Ayre KX-R pre, MX-R amps
SME 20/2 table SME V arm
Sota Star Saphire table, SME IV.Vi arm
Dynavector XV1-S, Sumiko Celebration,
Koetsu Black & Rosewood Signature cartridges
ARC Ref-2SE phono
Marantz SA-11S2 SACD player
MacMini server, Wavelength Crimson DAC
Skywire cables throughout, most IC's balanced
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 5 Nov 2013, 01:36 am: MtnHam,
Somebody told me that you're inviting us all over for a party at your place.
I misplaced the invitation, when is the date again?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MtnHam on 5 Nov 2013, 01:46 am: Any member seriously interested in visiting is welcome. However, be advised I in live in the boonies of NorCal, about 3 hours north of SF, and an hour from almost anywhere, at the end of a private 5 mile gravel ranch road! If you are an intrepid and serious planar lover, send a PM.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 5 Nov 2013, 02:19 am: It sounds like you're only 3,000 miles away.
Leave the porch light on, please!
Title: ESL surround setup
Post by: JonFo on 7 Dec 2013, 08:23 pm: Hi everyone, can't believe I missed this thread, so a bit late, but here goes.

This is a highly customized setup featuring modified all active-XO MartinLogan Monolith III's in the front, Sequel II's as rears and a completely custom center channel based on an SL3. Supported by an Infinite Baffle sub and 14 channels of amplification all located in a custom designed A/V room with a full suite of retail and custom acoustic treatments, this is a true 'reference' system.

Front of room, showing Monoliths next to 100" acoustically transparent screen. Sidewall custom acoustic treatments feature recycled ESL stators with colored lights behind them.

(http://jonathanfoulkes.com/images/FrontStich3pano_3.jpg)

Rear of room, note that old CRT is gone, and a 4K JVC Projector hangs behind/over the main seats now.

(http://jonathanfoulkes.com/images/RearStich2pano-sml.jpg)

And here is my pride an joy, my custom ESL center speaker I call the SL3XC, combining line array mid-bass and an ESL. Active XO via DBX 4800 drive rack (all front speakers). It is bolted to the top of my Infinite Baffle sub.

(http://jonathanfoulkes.com/images/FinalTopFrontView_Narrow_sml.JPG) (http://jonathanfoulkes.com/images/Final3QtrView_sml.JPG)

Full build story on that center here (http://www.martinloganowners.com/~tdacquis/forum/showthread.php?t=2018).

More details on the system at my site (http://jonathanfoulkes.com/Home_Theater/HomeTheater.htm).
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 7 Dec 2013, 08:40 pm: MOST impressive. Great website too. :thumb:
I'll have to check the build thread when time allows.
Good to see a HT guy with a spectacular room. (note, there's a HT area here with a thread specifically for showing off HT rooms....<hint> ....) :wink:

Bob
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 19 Dec 2013, 12:13 pm: Fantastic setup! Just curious... what mid-bass woofers are those in your center-channel's vertical array?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: GT Audio Works on 16 Jan 2014, 03:14 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=93090)
Does anyone else's cat do this ??
It can't be very comfortable, 6 feet up there on a space about 1.5" wide.
But he seems to like it. I played a variety of drum test tracks at a healthy volume. He would not budge.
Greg
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 16 Jan 2014, 03:21 am: My cats have tried BUT with no success.

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Keep_It_Simple_1600_X_1200.JPG)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: faxer on 7 Feb 2014, 09:57 pm: Just set up the new flagship speaker from BG Corp. the FS880.
They replaced my prototype LA 800's in walls that we modded to dipole.
They consist of a total of: 12 NE0 10's mids, 32 NEO 3's tweeters and (8) 8inch drivers powered by (2) 1200 watt BG amps.

They are the most dynamic, transparent speaker I have ever listened to.
They are so smooth and detailed that 100db feels like 75db.
This lack of strain and effortlessness at high levels is due to many factors
1. active Pass Labs Xover with Gold Point Attenuators
2. Pass XA60.5's on the tweeters
3. Luxman M600A's monos on the Midrange Neo 10's
4. 2400 watts from BG Amps on the woofers

We also use (4) BG 12sb subs along with (2) 6ft tall 15 inch driver transmission line subs
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=94401)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: bisP on 17 Feb 2014, 12:00 am: Quote from: SteveFord on 29 Oct 2013, 06:57 pm
I was admiring those over on the Bryston Circle.
That's a BIG room you've got them in and that is an awfully nice system.
Congratulations on your purchase!

Really fabulous looking system. what might be the acoustical treatment behind each speakers ? Are they diffusors ?

-bisp
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: klao on 17 Feb 2014, 02:05 pm: Quote from: bisP on 17 Feb 2014, 12:00 am
Really fabulous looking system. what might be the acoustical treatment behind each speakers ? Are they diffusors ?

-bisp

Thanks, bisp.

Yes, they're DIY diffusors behind the speakers and LF/bass traps at room corners (per Rives Audio design).

You can see more pictures in my gallery.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Housteau on 17 Feb 2014, 05:23 pm: My first real Planars were the Acoustat 1 + 1s mated to the Original VMPS subwoofers. From there were the Infinity RS1bs. At that same time I had the original Martin Logan CLS which I mated to the Infinity bass towers to create my own Mini Statement system:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=10746)

The system I found to replace my Infinities came from VMPS. It is the RMV60 mated to Brian's crowning achievement in bass expression, the VLA (for very large array). I call it the VMPS Reference System, since it has similarities to the Infinity IRS. Here it is as I had first set the system up:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=11193)

These photos here show it's present state with the new room treatments. This is about to change in the not too distant future though as I am increasing the size of my listening room.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=21857)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=26796)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 17 Feb 2014, 05:34 pm: How do you think those old Martin Logans would do mated with two Magnepan DMWs and a sub?
I've been thinking about those speakers for years but never got any further than that.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 17 Feb 2014, 06:17 pm: I'm sorry but once you start adding BOXES to the system they are no longer planars at least to me, boxes with boxes and panels with panels BUT if some of you like hybrids i guess it's your right to, live and let live
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Housteau on 17 Feb 2014, 06:32 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 17 Feb 2014, 05:34 pm
How do you think those old Martin Logans would do mated with two Magnepan DMWs and a sub?
I've been thinking about those speakers for years but never got any further than that.

I was impressed with what I heard when first shown in Las Vegas. However, they are more for mid-bass reinforcement than helping with the low range. I guess it all depends upon what you would like to reinforce.

I just noticed that you mentioned "and a sub". Since the mid-bass on the ML did need some uplift I can see where you are coming from here. Then, to add a cone sub might just do the trick if crossed over at the right place. I had made the mistake of not getting that mid-bass filled in properly and then was crossed over to the Infinity columns a bit too high.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 17 Feb 2014, 06:34 pm: These are ALL planars, NO hybrids here.

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/450x600xMrAcoustat_Speaker.JPG.pagespeed.ic.iLr2z6BTYH.jpg)

(http://cdn-2.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Magnepan_20_7_Audio_Research1.jpg)

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Randall_08.jpg)

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_mod_le_3.jpg)

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Serge_24.JPG)

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Keep_It_Simple_1600_X_1200.JPG)

(http://cdn-2.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_Spectra_8800_10.JPG)

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Pierre_01.jpg)

(http://cdn-2.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Serge_03_750x1000.jpg)

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_Spectra_6600_Audio_Research_05.jpg)

(http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/gallery/data/500/Acoustat_Spectra_4400_Mark_Levinson_20_6.jpg)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Housteau on 17 Feb 2014, 07:33 pm: Quote from: MrAcoustat on 17 Feb 2014, 06:17 pm
I'm sorry but once you start adding BOXES to the system they are no longer planars at least to me, boxes with boxes and panels with panels BUT if some of you like hybrids i guess it's your right to, live and let live

No need to be sorry. I am just not a planar fundamentalist myself. I guess I am more of a foundationalist :). I can and have appreciated the benefits of the pure design, but there are more times when I notice something foundational lacking. If I never heard, or felt that difference then I might be perfectly happy without. But, once there and done right (this is important) I couldn't imagine not having the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 17 Feb 2014, 07:37 pm: Mr. Acoustat's photos always cheer my up!
Nothing succeeds like excess when it comes to our "little radios".
I'm sure the married men here can relate to that phrase.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Housteau on 17 Feb 2014, 07:38 pm: Quote from: MrAcoustat on 17 Feb 2014, 06:34 pm
These are ALL planars, NO hybrids here.

I do still wish I had my Acoustat 1 + 1s to see how they would work in the room I have now. I believe I was running them on Audio Research M-100s.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: GT Audio Works on 18 Feb 2014, 01:44 am: Quote from: Housteau on 17 Feb 2014, 07:33 pm
No need to be sorry. I am just not a planar fundamentalist myself. I guess I am more of a foundationalist :). I can and have appreciated the benefits of the pure design, but there are more times when I notice something foundational lacking. If I never heard, or felt that difference then I might be perfectly happy without. But, once there and done right (this is important) I couldn't imagine not having the best of both worlds.
Agreed !!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: timind on 21 Aug 2014, 09:30 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=104200)
Recently purchased these MG12s with Sound Anchor stands from a local seller. The room is a small (12x12) cube so you might not think they would work. I used this diagonal setup to get excellent sound. Vocal images are rock solid, perfectly centered when they should be. Instruments have very specific locations throughout the soundstage.
My only issue is their tendency to highlight the top end. I installed the 1.2 ohm resisters which helped. A larger value resistor, maybe 2 ohm, might get me exactly what I like.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: kevin360 on 22 Aug 2014, 01:45 am: Quote from: Housteau on 17 Feb 2014, 07:33 pm
No need to be sorry. I am just not a planar fundamentalist myself. I guess I am more of a foundationalist :). I can and have appreciated the benefits of the pure design, but there are more times when I notice something foundational lacking. If I never heard, or felt that difference then I might be perfectly happy without. But, once there and done right (this is important) I couldn't imagine not having the best of both worlds.

That is precisely my viewpoint - well said. In my opinion, there's a cherry to top it off - offloading the bottom end (via an electronic crossover) benefits the Maggies. Now, plant a pair of mammoth Soundlabs in my listening room and I'll happily ditch the subs. :lol:
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Robin Hood on 23 Aug 2014, 11:15 pm: Quote from: MrAcoustat on 17 Feb 2014, 06:34 pm
These are ALL planars, NO hybrids here.

Thanks for the pictures. To the man who calls himself Mr. Acoustat from a person who loves Maggies and Acoustats:

1. What are your comparison opinions of the Maggie 20.7 vs Maggie Tympani IVa vs Acoustat 2+2?

2. And since only the 20.7 of these three is in current production, what other current production planars do you feel are better than the 20.7?

3. What is your reference planar that is no longer in production?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MtnHam on 23 Aug 2014, 11:30 pm: Here are the Sound Lab Majesic 945PX panels at the California Audio Show (CAS5) near San Francisco last weekend. Many said they considered the room the best at the show.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=104291)

Jason Victor Sernius of Stereophile wrote: http://www.stereophile.com/content/cas-2014-day-1-lift
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 9 Oct 2014, 07:12 pm: Quote from: Robin Hood on 23 Aug 2014, 11:15 pm
Thanks for the pictures. To the man who calls himself Mr. Acoustat from a person who loves Maggies and Acoustats:

1. What are your comparison opinions of the Maggie 20.7 vs Maggie Tympani IVa vs Acoustat 2+2?

2. And since only the 20.7 of these three is in current production, what other current production planars do you feel are better than the 20.7?

3. What is your reference planar that is no longer in production?

Dollar for dollar #1 Acoustat 2+2 $4k #2 again dollar for dollar NOTHING #3 again dollar for dollar Acoustat Spectra 6600 6.5k

DIY Acoustat Spectra 8800 // ( Spectra6600 & 1+1 ) my reference.
(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_Spectra_8800_101.JPG)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 9 Oct 2014, 10:49 pm: I have to ask, Mr. Acoustat, just how tall are you?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 9 Oct 2014, 11:06 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 9 Oct 2014, 10:49 pm
I have to ask, Mr. Acoustat, just how tall are you?

Hey Steve i am 5.6 feet high and 4.6 wide. :)

Speakers are 41x102x12 inches and weigh about 800 pounds.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 9 Oct 2014, 11:14 pm: He doesn't have shoes on, so the photo is slightly inaccurate with regard to perspective.
Title: My Serenity Super-7s aren't 8 or 9 feet tall, but they sure sound great.
Post by: jeffreybehr on 11 Nov 2014, 10:03 pm: (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/0%20Serenity%20Super-7%20speakers/2014Nov11_musicroom_1500w_zpsc13eed7e.jpg) (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/jeffreybehr/media/0%20Serenity%20Super-7%20speakers/2014Nov11_musicroom_1500w_zpsc13eed7e.jpg.html)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/0%20Serenity%20Super-7%20speakers/2014May05_withnewstandsfromdoorway_1500h_zps068bab72.jpg) (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/jeffreybehr/media/0%20Serenity%20Super-7%20speakers/2014May05_withnewstandsfromdoorway_1500h_zps068bab72.jpg.html)

The Super-7s...
http://serenityacoustics.com/products/thesuper7.html
...were designed and built by GR Research's Danny Ritchey. They're fully dipole, hybrid mag-planars (treble and MR) with powered, servo-controlled movingcoil bass systems. Each uses one BG Neo-3 PDR tweeter and four Neo 10 PDR MR drivers in an MTM arrangement. (I'm told these are custom versions made for Danny.)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/0%20Serenity%20Super-7%20speakers/2014Mar02_rearofpanel-1200h_zps39a1454d.jpg) (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/jeffreybehr/media/0%20Serenity%20Super-7%20speakers/2014Mar02_rearofpanel-1200h_zps39a1454d.jpg.html)

MR/tweeter crossover parts are, IMO, good to very good...
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/0%20Serenity%20Super-7%20speakers/2014Mar02_x-over1_1200w_zps157264df.jpg) (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/jeffreybehr/media/0%20Serenity%20Super-7%20speakers/2014Mar02_x-over1_1200w_zps157264df.jpg.html)
...but I'll soon be replacing the MR-series choke and the treble-series cap and treble-shunt coil with better parts. Also will run new speakercable unbroken from the spades at the amps' bindingposts all the way to the initial components on the x-over board.

Sensitivity is rated at 97dB and after going thru 2 SET monoamps--Coincident Frankenstein IIs [300B-based 8-Watters] and WAVAC MD-805ms [805-based 55-Watters]--this year I'm now happily using First Watt J2s, 30WPC all-JFET stereo amps.
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/J2%20amps/2014Oct27_L-chinplace2_1200w_zps5cd9128c.jpg) (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/jeffreybehr/media/J2%20amps/2014Oct27_L-chinplace2_1200w_zps5cd9128c.jpg.html)
(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/J2%20amps/2014Nov01_fullamptop_1200w_zps93e95ce6.jpg) (http://s89.photobucket.com/user/jeffreybehr/media/J2%20amps/2014Nov01_fullamptop_1200w_zps93e95ce6.jpg.html)

My system has never sounded better, and I'm thrilled. ... :green: ... :green: ... :green:

FWIW, the 2.35-ratio screen is 8 feet wide (NOT diagonal) and is illuminated by an Epson 8700 UB projector that's driven by an Oppo '95.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: a.wayne on 12 Nov 2014, 11:10 pm: Quote from: GT Audio Works on 16 Jan 2014, 03:14 am
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=93090)
Does anyone else's cat do this ??
It can't be very comfortable, 6 feet up there on a space about 1.5" wide.
But he seems to like it. I played a variety of drum test tracks at a healthy volume. He would not budge.
Greg

He's in the null area ....... :)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 15 Dec 2014, 02:27 am: (http://cdn-2.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Keep_It_Simple_1600x12001.JPG)

My cats have tried with no success. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 16 Dec 2014, 12:42 am: Now if you owned Thunderbrick's foul bird, Jenny...

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=110482)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: a.wayne on 16 Dec 2014, 12:47 am: Quote from: MrAcoustat on 17 Feb 2014, 06:17 pm
I'm sorry but once you start adding BOXES to the system they are no longer planars at least to me, boxes with boxes and panels with panels BUT if some of you like hybrids i guess it's your right to, live and let live

Yeah we wont hold living without dynamics against you ..... :)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 16 Dec 2014, 02:09 am: If you are missing dynamics with your panels, then sir you have the wrong panels think Acoustat for the old or think Sound Lab for the new, but if you are poor like me , think big. :)

(http://cdn-1.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Acoustat_Spectra_8800_101.JPG)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 16 Dec 2014, 05:02 pm: Yes sir you are correct,for my friend Jocelyn 24hz is not low enough, with the addition of two JL F-112 subs his speakers go down to 14hz that is his choice, if it was up to me there would not be any subs but it is not my system it is Jocelyn's system, live and let live.

PS: I don't like Subwoofers with panels // boxes with boxes and panels with panels, here is one sub that i wouldn't mind.

(http://infraplanar.free.fr/grand%20infraplanar_fichiers/image004.jpg)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 16 Dec 2014, 07:36 pm: Those are subwoofers called (infraplanar) for infrabass designed by Claude Lacroix a panel lover from France.

PS: Sorry in french only ( English was under construction before they folded )

http://infraplanar.free.fr/produits.htm

Hi Greg sorry for the mixup here is my system speakers are Acoustat 1+1s also rebuilt by my friend Jocelyn more of his work can be seen here on my Flickr photo album - - - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mracoustat/

(http://cdn-2.dastatic.com/forums/gallery/data/500/medium/Keep_It_Simple_1600x12001.JPG)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 16 Dec 2014, 11:06 pm: Jocelyn has one hell of a system and that must be a gigantic house.
Those panel subs are wild! My wife would die cursing me as she went if I brought those home.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MrAcoustat on 16 Dec 2014, 11:56 pm: No no Steve the infraplanar subs are not Jocelyn subs, his subs are two JLs F-112 the infraplanar subs where made by Claude Lacroix from France and he his no longer in business but i hear that his partner will maybe try it out by himself i wish him luck because they shure look good even if i don't like subs. :)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 17 Dec 2014, 01:12 am: I see, that's a stock photo from their web site.
I would love to hear those things. It's kind of like the Jolly Green Giant's DMW.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: doom2112 on 6 Jan 2015, 03:49 pm: My MG1.6 made like magnestand.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=112041)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: kappa546 on 5 Mar 2015, 03:28 am: Wow what a great thread. My only experience is with various Magnepans and ML's (in a substandard showroom). Anyone with in Lexington KY that would be so gracious to grant me an audition?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: electroresearch on 17 Apr 2015, 12:34 am: Hi Wonderful looking speakers. Nothing else like stats!! Enjoy.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: electroresearch on 17 Apr 2015, 12:44 am: Great looking room & system!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: limniscate on 6 Jun 2015, 12:14 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=122338)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: mjalazard on 22 Jul 2015, 03:13 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=125041)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=125042)

NFS Audio at the 2015 THE Show Newport Beach
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jamesbos on 16 Nov 2015, 10:59 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=131895)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=131896)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jamesbos on 16 Nov 2015, 11:02 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=131897)
ars
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jamesbos on 16 Nov 2015, 11:07 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=131898)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=131899)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jamesbos on 16 Nov 2015, 11:08 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=131900)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jamesbos on 16 Nov 2015, 11:16 am: Just a few of my DIY planars. Built and rebuilt over the years trying to arrive at my final design. I have about reached that goal design wise!!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: josh358 on 16 Nov 2015, 03:49 pm: Quote from: jamesbos on 16 Nov 2015, 11:16 am
Just a few of my DIY planars. Built and rebuilt over the years trying to arrive at my final design. I have about reached that goal design wise!!
Very cool and very creative. I wonder if a company like Magnepan could do something like this? Not necessarily having them free-floating, but hinged like the on-walls so they'd look like pictures when against the wall but could be pulled out for listening.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 16 Nov 2015, 10:59 pm: That is clever, I wasn't sure WHAT I was looking at.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Q3Di on 9 Jan 2016, 12:33 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=134894)

My TubePlanar system
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: a.wayne on 10 Jan 2016, 05:50 pm: Nice , Full BAT setup .....
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: ajzepp on 12 Jan 2016, 05:02 pm: Quote from: Q3Di on 9 Jan 2016, 12:33 am

My TubePlanar system

Beautiful...black on black is how I roll, as well... :thumb:
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Post by: jmanes on 15 Mar 2016, 07:41 pm: I've been working on these for a while. Thanks to some friends at Wright Patt AFB, I was able to find a panel material that would give me volume and good frequency response in a small size panel.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139166)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139167)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139168)
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Post by: jmanes on 15 Mar 2016, 09:53 pm: Testing mic did not come in today but I took these tests with an iphone app today. Certainly not professional but they do show a fairly flat response all the way down to 125hz which I think is not bad for a small panel of just 11" x 14". The high frequency response is what I thought was much improved from other panel materials I have tried and the response is good even 90 degrees off axis.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139176)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139177)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139178)
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Post by: maplegrovemusic on 16 Mar 2016, 01:02 am: Here ar some pics of the King Sound - King version 1 . They are available for sale as i am moving to a much smaller room . They have a great shipping box . So big no one would ever attempt to lift it off the ground with out a dolly . Pm me if interested . I will be posting in the sale ads as well .
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139207)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139208)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=139209)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 8 Apr 2016, 11:39 pm: (https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4ZSwahcO4i4/VwhAG-7zGlI/AAAAAAAABbI/LVqRmq1nEFkvtLZl7zDc5yem2C3Ww-Bow/s1600/system%2B2s.jpg)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b14RW8D0DhI/Vwg_0BHrsSI/AAAAAAAABbE/FEETudpgiQIFa0l-R0lgVzgsQ4g3VGFPw/s1600/system%2B1s.jpg)
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Post by: SteveFord on 9 Apr 2016, 01:35 am: If they sound as good as they look you're a lucky man.
How heavy are they?
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Post by: jamesbos on 9 Apr 2016, 09:54 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=140798)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=140798)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=140798)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=140798)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=140799)
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Post by: jamesbos on 9 Apr 2016, 10:01 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=140800)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=140801)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 9 Apr 2016, 12:39 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 9 Apr 2016, 01:35 am
If they sound as good as they look you're a lucky man.
How heavy are they?

I kinda went off the deep end with the transmission line bass cabs. I haven't weighed one but I can tell you that each consumed 1 1/2 sheets of 3/4 MDF, 1 1/4 sheets of 1/4" oak plywood sheathing and a couple of 1x6 x 6ft oak facing boards. It takes two men to pick one up. I moved them into the house with a hand truck.

They sound perfectly electrostatic-- very fast, very clean and detailed and their segmentation eliminates the "head-in-a-vise" sweet spot that you'd otherwise get from large flat panels.

I did over-tension the diaphragms bit, however, and I can hear them booming on certain bass notes that excite their drum-head resonance. I'm going to spend the day doing some tuning to identify the offending resonant frequency and apply a parametric EQ to tamp it down.

FYI: All drivers have resonances. Conventional cone drivers have many resonances and break-up modes. By contrast, an ESL has only a single resonance at the diaphragm's fundamental (drum-head) frequency-- but it's a nasty one.

One advantage with a hybrid ESL is that it doesn't have to play in the bass region where the drum head resonance typically falls-- so the resonance is not excited as much. My rule of thumb is to keep the resonance below 90 Hz and set the crossover frequency at least two octaves higher using a 24db/octave filter slope or at least one octave above it if using a 48db/octave slope.

If I can't tame the drum-head resonance with a parametric EQ, I will have to raise the crossover frequency to excite it less.
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 9 Apr 2016, 12:51 pm: Jamesbos,

Let me guess: Those artful panels are actually magnetic planar speakers, right?
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Post by: jamesbos on 9 Apr 2016, 01:27 pm: Yes using 25 x 6 x 3 mm neos and using the picture as the diaphragm, my latest and best design up to now after many years of building and re-building.Don't use Mylar any more too noisy! The design is easier to build and lighter than my previous designs! :D Very happy all round. Have a few more ideas in my head, waiting for more magnets to proceed. Have a few more pictures to use up. Should keep me occupied for a little longer, you never know what other ideas may arise!
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 9 Apr 2016, 04:47 pm: I thought so.

I've read some of your posts on the DIY Audio Forum. Those panels are beautiful... easy wife approval for those but from the look of your mad scientist lair I'm guessing you're either unmarried or exiled to the garage with all that other gear.

You should start a website and share your planar build know-how with the world. :thumb:
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Post by: jamesbos on 9 Apr 2016, 11:35 pm: Actually been living on my own for over 30 years so don't have any problems in that respect. I am overloaded with planars, all over the house garage and sheds. So no problems with wives, lucky me!Although I could put any picture on to keep her happy if need be. Thinking of using HOLLOGRAPHIC pics as well, should look great in the sunshine moving as well!Have a few white diaphragms to use as such. So easy to build as well!
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Post by: Odal3 on 9 Apr 2016, 11:55 pm: Jazzman -

WOW - those look great! How's the sound compared to the other ones you built?
BTW: What kind of subs (?) are those you have on the side?

Quote
So easy to build as well!
- not sure if I fully believe in this (at least if considering my novice skills) :D
Jazzman/jamesbos - so what would be an EASY build for a beginner to try out and what is approx the parts costs?
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 10 Apr 2016, 12:30 am: Quote from: Odal3 on 9 Apr 2016, 11:55 pm
Jazzman -

WOW - those look great! How's the sound compared to the other ones you built?
BTW: What kind of subs (?) are those you have on the side?
- not sure if I fully believe in this (at least if considering my novice skills) :D
Jazzman/jamesbos - so what would be an EASY build for a beginner to try out and what is approx the parts costs?

Thanks Odal3,

The subs are called "Ripoles", which is short for "Ridtahler dipole", in honor of the German speaker builder who first built them, Axel Ridtahler. There is a write up about them on my website here: http://jazzman-esl-page.blogspot.com/ (http://jazzman-esl-page.blogspot.com/)

I only have experience building hybrid ESL's. They easiest type to build use perforated metal stators. The cost of the panels runs about $350, including coating the stators. The transformers and bias supplies run another $170. The rest is the woodwork, crossover and amps.

Wire stators are more difficult as you have to build a jig and build the supporting structure. In the end they all cost about the same.
They all sound wonderful too. The perf metal types have the best slam and imaging but they beam like crazy ("head-in-a-vise" effect) and they don't sound as good off axis as the segmented types.

Segmented wire stators have a much wider sweet spot, at the expense of less precise imaging at the focal sweet spot. A hybrid ESL can be fairly complex or fairly simple--- like a wooden frame with a dipole woofer mounted on an open baffle below the panel would be easiest.

Charlie (Jazzman)
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Post by: josh358 on 29 Sep 2016, 12:08 am: OK, I know I promised to post a picture a long time ago! And what with endless renovations and life it's taken me all that time to get the IVA's where they'll ultimately live. The good news is that they're sounding remarkable, much better for some reason than they did on the adjacent wall -- even with a too-small room and rough, preliminary setup. (The diffusers were just sitting on the floor when I took the picture, they do improve the sound when mounted but one of them goes over the window -- not wild about losing my view!).

Split config:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151129)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151132)

In line:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151131)
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Post by: SteveFord on 29 Sep 2016, 01:16 am: That looks like you could drive yourself crazy setting them up.
Are you using them in line?
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Post by: josh358 on 29 Sep 2016, 12:10 pm: LOL, yeah, precisely what's happening. Too many variables.

In line arrangement is just an experiment, it really isn't practical in this room but I wanted to see how it sounded compared to the split configuration.

I'm thinking of moving the radiator around to the front wall so I can put the LH woofer against the wall. Also, thinking of making a transparent diffuser to put over the window . . .

Did someone mention Mini Maggies?
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 29 Sep 2016, 12:34 pm: Quote from: josh358 on 29 Sep 2016, 12:08 am
OK, I know I promised to post a picture a long time ago! And what with endless renovations and life it's taken me all that time to get the IVA's where they'll ultimately live. The good news is that they're sounding remarkable, much better for some reason than they did on the adjacent wall -- even with a too-small room and rough, preliminary setup. (The diffusers were just sitting on the floor when I took the picture, they do improve the sound when mounted but one of them goes over the window -- not wild about losing my view!).

Split config:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151129)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151132)

In line:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151131)

WOW! Now THAT is a wall of sound!
(I'm guessing you're not married or soon won't be :lol:)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 29 Sep 2016, 12:41 pm: My new stats playing at CarverFest 2016. Bob Carver loved them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXL4NsMtpYk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXL4NsMtpYk)

Bob & Me:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QoKe-U-HruU/V-0G2y4BmjI/AAAAAAAABeM/fRSkqv2Kf48oQX7xeVzaxl4t9fftLTLegCLcB/s1600/Bob%2BCarver%2B%2526%2BMe.jpg)
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Post by: josh358 on 29 Sep 2016, 01:10 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 29 Sep 2016, 12:34 pm
WOW! Now THAT is a wall of sound!
(I'm guessing you're not married or soon won't be :lol:)
You aren't the first to make that joke. :-)
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Post by: josh358 on 29 Sep 2016, 01:11 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 29 Sep 2016, 12:41 pm
My new stats playing at CarverFest 2016. Bob Carver loved them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXL4NsMtpYk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXL4NsMtpYk)

Bob & Me:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QoKe-U-HruU/V-0G2y4BmjI/AAAAAAAABeM/fRSkqv2Kf48oQX7xeVzaxl4t9fftLTLegCLcB/s1600/Bob%2BCarver%2B%2526%2BMe.jpg)
Very cool!
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Post by: Donald on 29 Sep 2016, 04:25 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 29 Sep 2016, 12:41 pm
My new stats playing at CarverFest 2016. Bob Carver loved them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXL4NsMtpYk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXL4NsMtpYk)

Bob & Me:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QoKe-U-HruU/V-0G2y4BmjI/AAAAAAAABeM/fRSkqv2Kf48oQX7xeVzaxl4t9fftLTLegCLcB/s1600/Bob%2BCarver%2B%2526%2BMe.jpg)

Don't be so modest Charlie. Everyone at Carverfest that heard them thought they sounded incredible. Great job! These stats did everything very well.
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 30 Sep 2016, 11:55 pm: Hi Donald,

I'm guessing you're the same Donald I met at Carverfest? You would be "DCL" on the Carversite?

Anyway, thanks for the nice comment about my speakers.

Charlie
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Post by: audiomagnate on 10 May 2017, 12:44 am: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=162023)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=162024)

Damn. Can somebody flip these?
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Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 10 May 2017, 12:49 am: Quote from: audiomagnate on 10 May 2017, 12:44 am

Damn. Can somebody flip these?
That's a two man job to flip those! :o
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Post by: ZAKski288 on 10 May 2017, 05:16 am: Damn. Can somebody flip these?

Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on 10 May 2017, 12:49 am
That's a two man job to flip those! :o

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=162035)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=162036)

I"ll help out a VMPS owner. NICE speakers, Zak
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Post by: audiomagnate on 10 May 2017, 07:44 pm: Quote from: Bob in St. Louis on 10 May 2017, 12:49 am
That's a two man job to flip those! :o

You got that right! 350 lbs. each and awkward as hell getting down the steps into the cave, but worth it! In the sweet spot I am often transported, and isn't that what's it's all about?
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Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 10 May 2017, 08:12 pm: Quote from: audiomagnate on 10 May 2017, 07:44 pm
You got that right! 350 lbs. each and awkward as hell getting down the steps into the cave, but worth it! In the sweet spot I am often transported, and isn't that what's it's all about?
Amen brother!!
I was helping a buddy move some speakers that weigh 320 pounds into and out of a truck and a trip up a staircase.
Can't say I enjoyed that part. But like you said, it's about the end result.
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Post by: ehoove on 14 Jun 2017, 10:42 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=163932)

Regards,
Jim
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Post by: sumoking on 19 Jun 2017, 02:56 am: Anyone heard David JansZens speakers and can share how they sound?
I heard the infamous modules his dad made in 1978 and i still have the sound of those in my head. I recall them being so true to timbre!
How do they integrate with lower end drivers and sound in a box speaker?
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Post by: josh358 on 19 Jun 2017, 01:37 pm: Quote from: sumoking on 19 Jun 2017, 02:56 am
Anyone heard David JansZens speakers and can share how they sound?
I heard the infamous modules his dad made in 1978 and i still have the sound of those in my head. I recall them being so true to timbre!
How do they integrate with lower end drivers and sound in a box speaker?

I haven't heard the new JansZens. A friend has the old ones but I don't think I can extrapolate from those. However, I've heard nothing but good things about the new ones online.
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Post by: edmiston on 20 Jun 2017, 03:28 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=164193)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=164194)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=164195)
Captions did not load for pictures....anyway, Sound Lab Majestic 545s in house. Rest of system, PS Audio BHK pre, DSMP, Direct Stream Dac, Bryston 7B3s, Bryston Bit-20, Salk/Rythmik 15" servo subs.
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Post by: josh358 on 20 Jun 2017, 04:05 pm: Nice!
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Post by: JakeJ on 21 Jun 2017, 12:37 am: Ditto!
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Post by: BigguyinATL on 7 Jul 2017, 02:21 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=165088)

New member. MMG's (biamped with Crown Amps), MMG-w, Side Subs. Analog (Technics SL10 w. ortophon, Acoustat RP2) Digital (Oppo BDP103, Dish, Chromecast, Sound Devices USBPre2)
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Post by: Paddlefoot on 11 Jul 2017, 11:04 pm: My Mini Maggie setup. stands made for me by MYE stands for the Mini tops and the MYE stand for the DWM.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=165351)
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Post by: SteveFord on 12 Jul 2017, 12:02 am: I like what you did with the minis!
How do you like the sound quality?
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Post by: Paddlefoot on 12 Jul 2017, 12:43 am: Hey Steve, these sounded great, much better than i expected, in looks and sound. i contacted Grant at MYE stands and ask him if he could do the tops for me, he said he would, i sent the tops to him for measurements, he returned them. short thereafter they came to South Carolina, the wife loved the looks !
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Post by: josh358 on 12 Jul 2017, 01:37 am: Mye stands for Mini Maggies! Very cool.
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Post by: josh358 on 12 Jul 2017, 01:58 am: Got my new projector and screen installed:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=165386)
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Post by: SteveFord on 12 Jul 2017, 09:21 am: Josh is living large!
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Post by: JakeJ on 12 Jul 2017, 12:37 pm: That's awesome! Sound Labs up front and looks like Magnepan 20.1 behind them? Ahem...that is not how you are supposed to setup you home theater speakers. :jester:
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Post by: josh358 on 12 Jul 2017, 02:10 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 12 Jul 2017, 09:21 am
Josh is living large!
Hey, don't rub it in, Atkins is helping with that. :-)

Seriously, my first 3D projector -- "Gravity" left me crosseyed but was a lot of fun.
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Post by: josh358 on 12 Jul 2017, 02:32 pm: Quote from: JakeJ on 12 Jul 2017, 12:37 pm
That's awesome! Sound Labs up front and looks like Magnepan 20.1 behind them? Ahem...that is not how you are supposed to setup you home theater speakers. :jester:
Heh, I wish. They're an old pair of Tympani IVA's, the socks are off because I got them used and have been doing some repairs.

One nice thing about the IVA's is that you can use them in split configuration with the woofer panels behind the mid-tweet panels in a runty room like this, my old 1D's would never have fit.

This would be a terrible arrangement for a real home theater since you can't sit to the side without blocking the view, but it works fine for one or two people so it's ideal if you're like me and your friends all hate you.

Here are the IVA's with the panels side by side:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=165402)

No room for a screen at all if I do that!
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Post by: JakeJ on 12 Jul 2017, 03:38 pm: That's still awesome! :bowdown: I have a friend that has a pair (not sure which model) and they sounded great when I got a chance to hear them.

I like the fact the IV A woofer and mid/tweeter panels can be disconnected, many sonic advantages to that I'm sure.
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Post by: josh358 on 15 Jul 2017, 06:31 pm: For me, the main advantage is that I can fit them in an undersized room! My old 1-D's, which were also 3 panels that couldn't be separated, would never fit in a room like this.

Otherwise I think the main acoustic advantage is that you can have much more woofer area than in a large single-panel speaker, so they're suited to larger rooms (or with EQ cleaner bass in small ones like mine). You can also detach the MT's from the woofer panels so that the virbrations don't get transmitted, you can open up a bit of a space if the backwave is getting trapped, and you can play with the toe-in of the woofers, which changes the sound dramatically.
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Post by: JakeJ on 15 Jul 2017, 07:59 pm: Thanks for the reply josh358. Very interesting. I have always wanted to try Maggies but have not really had the necessary space to do it.
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Post by: josh358 on 15 Jul 2017, 08:31 pm: Yeah, size is problem for so many of us. I'm lucky to have a dedicated room but even then my room is really too small and it's been a real challenge to fit everything in. I have a pair of diffusers up now, mounted on rails so I can slide them and experiment with their position, and they make a huge improvement -- my small room (13' and 17' deep, 14' wide) is starting to sound like a much bigger one and I was able to push the M-T panels closer to the wall.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=165554)

Of course these are almost the biggest speakers they've ever made, the .7's are really small and apparently really nice (I haven't heard them yet), though you still do have to pull them out from the wall.

Have you considered the on-walls? They seem to sell mostly to the home theater crowd but they sound comparable to their mid range floor standers and they're great solutions for space problems.

I think Magnepan should take some .7's and put them in enclosures and sell them as against-the-wall speakers -- they'd look more like conventional box speakers, but they'd have the planar sound and people wouldn't have to mount them like the on-walls. Not that that's much trouble but I suspect it dissuades some people from buying them.
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Post by: GregDunn on 9 Jan 2018, 10:25 pm: Hmmm... no posts recently. Hope I don't get accused of necro-posting. :lol:

Here are my newly refurbished Tympani 1C speakers back from a fresh factory refurb and with new-style socks. And yes, the perspective is confusing; they are about 4-5 feet from the rear wall and experimentally positioned to try to improve the dispersion. Wish I had a wider room, but they still sound decent at this point.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=174239)
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Post by: SteveFord on 9 Jan 2018, 11:19 pm: That would be the copyrighted Greg Dunn Wall Of Sound?
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Post by: josh358 on 10 Jan 2018, 02:52 am: Wow, excellent. I put black socks on my 1-D's when I replaced them years ago . . .
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Post by: HAL on 10 Jan 2018, 03:21 am: The Megaliths. GT Audioworks 20" ribbon array, BG Neo10 array and 6x12 OB H-Frame Servo subs. Using the dspMusikLCD 2x16 channel digital crossover.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=174259)
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Post by: GregDunn on 10 Jan 2018, 03:32 am: Quote from: SteveFord on 9 Jan 2018, 11:19 pm
That would be the copyrighted Greg Dunn Wall Of Sound?

I was tempted to put "Also Sprach Zarathustra" on when I first hooked them up. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, I saw several examples of modern grill cloth when I was at the factory last summer, and it just seemed to me that the black was a good choice. The tan/gold cloth as they were originally built turned dingy after a while, so the white was right out. The grey just didn't seem to work for me, even though it looks nice on the panels.
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Post by: HAL on 10 Jan 2018, 03:37 am: I did with mine! :D
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Post by: josh358 on 10 Jan 2018, 03:48 am: Quote from: HAL on 10 Jan 2018, 03:21 am
The Megaliths. GT Audioworks 20" ribbon array, BG Neo10 array and 6x12 OB H-Frame Servo subs. Using the dspMusikLCD 2x16 channel digital crossover.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=174259)
Wow, must be spectacular. How do the OB woofers blend with the Neo 10's? I have a stack of Neo 8's to replace the midrange drivers in my Tympani IVA's, I'm restoring the bass panels as we speak and then I'll have to lay in a third power amp.

What's the dspMusikLCD 2x16? This is the first I've heard of it. I have a MiniDSP Open DRC-DA8 for XO and EQ, but I've been comparing it to some other converters and I'm disappointed in the sonics, so thinking about alternatives. One possibility would be to run Acourate on my computer, but I'd need 6 channels of DA -- I could buy a 4 channel Lynx card and add it to my current 2 channel card, or buy an old Aurora 8, or try to find a used e28, now that it's been replaced by the e38 -- although they don't seem to come up very often.
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Post by: HAL on 10 Jan 2018, 03:58 am: The open baffle Neo10's blend very well with the open baffle servo subs.

The dspMusikLCD is either an 2x8 channel or 2x16 channel digital crossover that used HiRez ADC's and DAC's for processing at 24bit/192KHz for the system. I developed the crossover for my speakers with the 16 channel since it is running 14 of 16 channels driving the system. There are 22 amp channels driving the speakers. That is 10 Parasound Halo A23's and 2 Rythmik Audio HX800 servo amps. Lots of headroom.

The dspMusikLCD was developed by Danville Signal Processing, Inc for many uses and a very good one is a digital crossover. The software programming environment was developed by DSP Concepts. I am a licensed developer for the system, so I develop the applications for the units. Works with Windows , OSX and Linux over USB2.

Here is one thread where I discuss it:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=142585.0
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Post by: josh358 on 10 Jan 2018, 03:58 am: Quote from: GregDunn on 10 Jan 2018, 03:32 am
Yeah, I saw several examples of modern grill cloth when I was at the factory last summer, and it just seemed to me that the black was a good choice. The tan/gold cloth as they were originally built turned dingy after a while, so the white was right out. The grey just didn't seem to work for me, even though it looks nice on the panels.
Yeah, the beige does turn dingy (my 1-D's didn't have any gold in them), particularly if you smoke as I did back then. I really like the look of the black ones best, too, but I'm thinking that when I put the new cloth on my IVA's (still being refurbished and modded so bare for the time being) I'll have to go with beige, because I also have a small room and black is kind of overwhelming. Though not all that bad looking, here they are black with the cloth off:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=165386)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: GregDunn on 11 Jan 2018, 12:14 am: For a few years (till maybe 1978?) Magnepan made numerous cloths available. Mine were originally ordered with a pattern called "sunflower" which had big patterns scattered across the cloth (somewhat like needlepoint) in a very rich gold color on beige fabric. About the time the order reached the factory, they cut back significantly on the number of styles available and I had to settle for one called "gold" which was a very understated fabric with gold-colored threads mixed in among the beige. I kept the cloth, and it still looks attractive, but the beige darkened quite a lot over the years just due to dust, dirt and some water staining from the incident which led to the wire damage - all of which made then unusable going forward. Comparing them side by side, I feel that the modern fabric is more acoustically transparent - it's certainly thinner and more porous to the sound. And since it's only me 99% of the time listening, I care little for the appearance. Black will probably stay new-looking a bit longer.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: josh358 on 11 Jan 2018, 02:29 am: Quote from: HAL on 10 Jan 2018, 03:58 am
The open baffle Neo10's blend very well with the open baffle servo subs.

The dspMusikLCD is either an 2x8 channel or 2x16 channel digital crossover that used HiRez ADC's and DAC's for processing at 24bit/192KHz for the system. I developed the crossover for my speakers with the 16 channel since it is running 14 of 16 channels driving the system. There are 22 amp channels driving the speakers. That is 10 Parasound Halo A23's and 2 Rythmik Audio HX800 servo amps. Lots of headroom.

The dspMusikLCD was developed by Danville Signal Processing, Inc for many uses and a very good one is a digital crossover. The software programming environment was developed by DSP Concepts. I am a licensed developer for the system, so I develop the applications for the units. Works with Windows , OSX and Linux over USB2.

Here is one thread where I discuss it:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=142585.0
Thanks, Rich. I'll have to read more about your system, it sounds pretty amazing. Why all the power on the Neo-10's, given that they're so efficient? And why use separate channels of DSP, are you tapering the lines? But I'm sure you discuss this in other threads, don't want to take up your time asking about things you've already discussed.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: HAL on 11 Jan 2018, 02:33 am: Here is The Megaliths line array build thread:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=142716.0
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: josh358 on 11 Jan 2018, 02:47 am: Quote from: GregDunn on 11 Jan 2018, 12:14 am
For a few years (till maybe 1978?) Magnepan made numerous cloths available. Mine were originally ordered with a pattern called "sunflower" which had big patterns scattered across the cloth (somewhat like needlepoint) in a very rich gold color on beige fabric. About the time the order reached the factory, they cut back significantly on the number of styles available and I had to settle for one called "gold" which was a very understated fabric with gold-colored threads mixed in among the beige. I kept the cloth, and it still looks attractive, but the beige darkened quite a lot over the years just due to dust, dirt and some water staining from the incident which led to the wire damage - all of which made then unusable going forward. Comparing them side by side, I feel that the modern fabric is more acoustically transparent - it's certainly thinner and more porous to the sound. And since it's only me 99% of the time listening, I care little for the appearance. Black will probably stay new-looking a bit longer.
I'm definitely going to have to do something, since when I fixed the delamination on the midranges the repairs came out white rather than black:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=174289)

(Actually, I'll be replacing them with the Neo 8's -- not sure how those will look when I've mounted them . . . )
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: JakeJ on 11 Jan 2018, 03:31 am: So...you are going to remove the original Magnepan midrange element and replace it with an array of Neo 8 drivers? I hope you post that build thread when it happens. I'm sure many members besides myself would follow that with great interest!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: josh358 on 11 Jan 2018, 04:28 am: Quote from: JakeJ on 11 Jan 2018, 03:31 am
So...you are going to remove the original Magnepan midrange element and replace it with an array of Neo 8 drivers? I hope you post that build thread when it happens. I'm sure many members besides myself would follow that with great interest!
Sure, I'd be glad to!

(BTW, I'm not the pioneer here -- Satie did it with his Tympani IV's with great success and I got the idea from him.)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: josh358 on 11 Jan 2018, 04:30 am: Quote from: HAL on 11 Jan 2018, 02:33 am
Here is The Megaliths line array build thread:

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=142716.0
Excellent, thanks, I'll be a while reading that! Most curious about your beam forming but I'll read the thread rather than peppering you with questions.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Brian Beck on 14 Jan 2018, 12:41 pm: (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=174495)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 28 Jan 2018, 01:58 pm: Beautiful speaker and lady too. I don't recall seeing a speaker like that before-- but I'm guessing it's magnetic planar with a ribbon. What is it? My lady would never allow a speaker that big in the living room... apparently that's not an issue for you, though :thumb:
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: josh358 on 28 Jan 2018, 09:05 pm: I'm intrigued. It looks a lot like an Apogee -- ribbon tweeter, ribbon midrange, base panel with an angled side -- I'm guessing that the part on the left is just cosmetic, to make it look rectangular so the angled edge can do its thing?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: HAL on 28 Jan 2018, 09:51 pm: Quote from: Brian Beck on 14 Jan 2018, 12:41 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=174495)

What is it? Your DIY or a production speaker?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: narkotic on 12 Feb 2018, 03:52 am: Quote from: HAL on 28 Jan 2018, 09:51 pm
What is it? Your DIY or a production speaker?

Wow this is a planar forum and you guys don't know the Apogee "Fullrange"? :P
Title: It's 2018 and I'm back, with Quad '2905s
Post by: jeffreybehr on 27 Feb 2018, 05:18 am: I'm back to Quads. In the late 1970s, I had one pair and then stacked pairs of '57s; then a pair of '989s maybe 15 years ago.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=176855)

Rescued these ESL 2905s...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=176856)
...in northern CA. The PS Audio BHK 300s arrived last week. I'm still using Rythmik F15HP (sealed) SWs (with HP filter at 25Hz) while driving the Quads fullrange. The system has NEVER sounded so transparent nor has the soundstage sounded so well focused in the center...so well focused that I've removed my centerchannel system. Amps are still breaking-in as are the six quartets of aftermarket 6DJ8/6922/ECC88 tubes*. The pre/pro is a very good Marantz AV7704 (new the fall of '17), but a new, higher-end AV8805 is on the way. I'm using ClearDay Double-Shotgun-Plus speakercable composed of six 24g. solid-silver conductors (= 16-1/4g.) per pole and Neotec NEI-1002 double-solid-UPOCC-silver IC, now with Neotec '6613 XLRs, in this first balanced system I've ever had.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=176752)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=176754)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=176755)

Have added Sound-O-City's spike bars at the rears of the bases...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=176756)

http://soundocity.com/beta/product/outriggers-with-brass-cones/

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=176757)
...because my floor is not smooth or level; they improve stability and rigidity very nicely.

The pair of PSA Stellar M700s will be leaving soon (not that there's anything wrong with them!)... The pair of inexpensive Emotivas in the center drive the eight (soon to be 10) surround and ceiling speakers. The system is built primarily for multichannel music but also has a pseudo-4K/3840 Epson '5040 projector and a 96"-wide (not diagonal), Panavision-ratio screen.

Even if I say so myself, it sounds and looks FABULOUS. :D :green: :D :green: :D

* My loving wife occasionally calls me Mr. Excess, for good reason.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 13 Apr 2018, 06:19 pm: Future planar porn... :wink:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=178772)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: aldcoll on 13 Apr 2018, 06:27 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 13 Apr 2018, 06:19 pm
Future planar porn... :wink:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=178772)
I almost want to get into planers just watching your builds.

Alan
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 14 Apr 2018, 12:50 am: This is going to be good.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: JakeJ on 14 Apr 2018, 03:39 pm: Cool! A new build. You should start a dedicated thread so we can all follow along....please.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: maplegrovemusic on 6 May 2018, 06:39 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=179824)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: maplegrovemusic on 6 May 2018, 06:40 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=179825)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 6 May 2018, 07:44 pm: I would love to play around in that room!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 7 May 2018, 01:31 am: Quote from: maplegrovemusic on 6 May 2018, 06:40 pm
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=179825)

Now that's a wall of sound! I recognize the Maggie but what are the two ESLs? I'm guessing one or both is a Kingsound?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: maplegrovemusic on 7 May 2018, 11:25 pm: Yes , Kingsound . Models are king and ks-17 . Wish I still had the pair of Quad 2905 I sold here to include in the pics !
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: maplegrovemusic on 7 May 2018, 11:28 pm: Jazzman , Can you recommend a great amp for stats ? A member of the Audio by Vanalstine team is loaning me a amp he designed for a friend who has stats and it sounds excellent !
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 11 May 2018, 01:58 am: I really have no expertise with amps but I do know that ESLs require big voltage swings, which equates to big power from the amp. And the impedance falls with rising frequency and can drop below 1 Ohm at 20kHz. But the bigger problem for the amp is the high phase shift (approaching 90 degrees in extreme cases) pushed back to the amp by the ESL's capacitance that can dive the amp into an ultrasonic oscillation death spiral. And amps with high negative feedback are more prone to suffer the ESL death spiral.

Generally, choose an amp with at least 150 watts/channel and low negative feedback. The best amp for any ESL would be a Sanders Magtech ($$$), which was designed specifically for ESL's.

Most ESL's are a difficult, capacitive load but an electrically segmented wire ESL powered thru an RC network (like mine) is predominantly a resistive load which practically any decent amp could drive and survive.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Mike-48 on 11 May 2018, 05:57 am: My planar approach could be considered minimalist: A pair of Janszen Valentinas with ESL panels down to 500 Hz and cone woofers below. The sound: clean, involving, and beautiful. I used to have a pair of Apogee Caliper Signatures, and the Janszens are more neutral and just as involving.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=179966)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Pryso on 11 May 2018, 05:07 pm: Mike, what amp are you using now? Your last photo showed an AVA 400R I believe.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Dieterle Tool on 11 May 2018, 05:59 pm: Quote from: maplegrovemusic on 7 May 2018, 11:28 pm
Jazzman , Can you recommend a great amp for stats ? A member of the Audio by Vanalstine team is loaning me a amp he designed for a friend who has stats and it sounds excellent !

I know I'm not Jazzman, but I have a little experience with ESL'S and planars. I've heard the Parasound JC1 (mono blocks) paired with Sound Labs with great results. An ugly but effective option is the Hafler 9505. It has gobs of power, sounds warm and punchy and has true balanced outputs. A real sleeper.

I use a custom made pair of Hafler XL-280's from Musical Concepts for my Magnepans. They are totally rebuilt for mono application, giving me (12) Exicon Mos-fets per channel and (4) 10,000 uF Jensen (4 pole) caps per side for clean, quick power delivery. I highly recommend Musical Concepts, John can build you something that suites your needs for a very reasonable price. His driver boards are state of the art which he constantly upgrades and tunes by ear.

-Dieter
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Mike-48 on 12 May 2018, 01:03 am: Quote from: Pryso on 11 May 2018, 05:07 pm
Mike, what amp are you using now? Your last photo showed an AVA 400R I believe.

It's a Bryston 4B3. I like it a lot. Great match for the Janszens!

Other changes were moving the subs to just behind the listening chairs -- this got rid of a room null at 40 Hz -- and supplementing & rearranging acoustic treatments. In particular, the two GIK Alpha panels on the front wall are new, while two Vicoustic diffusers were moved from the front to the side walls (one seen on left).
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: timind on 12 May 2018, 01:53 am: Quote from: Mike in NC on 12 May 2018, 01:03 am
It's a Bryston 4B3. I like it a lot. Great match for the Janszens!

Other changes were moving the subs to just behind the listening chairs -- this got rid of a room null at 40 Hz -- and supplementing & rearranging acoustic treatments. In particular, the two GIK Alpha panels on the front wall are new, while two Vicoustic diffusers were moved from the front to the side walls (one seen on left).
Room looks awesome.
Are those diffusers made with wood blocks? If so, how much do they weigh?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Mike-48 on 12 May 2018, 04:31 am: Quote from: timind on 12 May 2018, 01:53 am
Room looks awesome.
Are those diffusers made with wood blocks? If so, how much do they weigh?
Thanks! The diffusers are by Vicoustic (https://www.vicoustic.com/product/multifuser-dc2) and made of EPS (= styrofoam). So they are pretty light. An entire assembly (two square diffusers glued to artist's stretcher strips, with Dynamat on the back for added damping) weighs about 15 pounds (7 kg), I estimate.

The Dynamat is needed only because the diffusers aren't glued directly to the wall, which would damp them better.

Wooden diffusers are beautiful, but the cost is far higher -- more than I can justify.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: timind on 12 May 2018, 11:31 am: Thanks Mike. Gonna check them out.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Nick V on 12 May 2018, 09:05 pm: This is a pretty impressive thread!!

I have a pair of these BG Radia SA-320 waiting to be installed in-wall in custom back boxes when I finish my basement.

(https://img.usaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1213598-bg-radia-audiophile-inwall-planar-speakers.png)

Do they count?

It'll be a stealthy little in-wall 2.1 system at the poker table / bar area.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: FredT300B on 21 May 2018, 12:33 pm: Oppo 95, Krell KAV400Xi, Eminent Technology LFT8b hybrid speakers, DIY subwoofer with Dayton Ultimax 12", 18th century oak equipment stand, all in our 22' X 38' great room.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=180315)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 12 Jun 2018, 03:44 pm: A phased array, wire-stator ESL mated to an H-baffle woofer:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=181262)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=181263)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=181264)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jsm71 on 13 Jun 2018, 12:41 am: It's been since late 2012 that I posted a picture of my setup. I don't browse this thread that often, but when I saw Mike in NC's post from a month ago with his JansZen speakers I had to post again because we have some of same stuff. Maybe we were separated at birth. :lol:

I also use both Vicoustic diffusors and GIK products in my room to support the JansZen Valentinas. The second picture was from before getting the subs (Rythmik 12G).

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=181293)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=181294)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Mike-48 on 18 Jun 2018, 02:35 am: Quote from: jsm71 on 13 Jun 2018, 12:41 am
It's been since late 2012 that I posted a picture of my setup. I don't browse this thread that often, but when I saw Mike in NC's post from a month ago with his JansZen speakers I had to post again because we have some of same stuff. Maybe we were separated at birth. :lol:

I also use both Vicoustic diffusors and GIK products in my room to support the JansZen Valentinas. The second picture was from before getting the subs (Rythmik 12G).
Maybe! Nice setup!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Mike-48 on 18 Jun 2018, 02:37 am: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 12 Jun 2018, 03:44 pm
A phased array, wire-stator ESL mated to an H-baffle woofer:
Looks wonderful! Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 18 Jun 2018, 10:03 pm: More porn:

https://vimeo.com/275719961
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 18 Jun 2018, 11:57 pm: Just beautiful.
Jazzman53,
How many hours do you think you have into that pair?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 19 Jun 2018, 08:17 am: Quote from: SteveFord on 18 Jun 2018, 11:57 pm
Just beautiful.
Jazzman53,
How many hours do you think you have into that pair?

I really didn't keep up with the time invested but it would be well over a 100, I'm sure. .
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: BobM on 19 Jun 2018, 12:19 pm: In looking at the pictures of peoples rooms I notice a wide difference in what is BEHIND the speakers.

Most of you have nothing, and I can understand that for WAF or aesthetic reasons. But I think you are leaving it up to chance and losing the opportunity for better sound.

Some of you have absorptive panels, and I don't understand that at all. These are dipoles, meaning sound is coming out the back as much as the front. The charm of panels is the deep soundstage they present because sound comes out the back. Absorbing that is ruining that experience for some of you IMO, though they could be there to help get rid of a bass boom.

Then a few do it the way I do - scatter that back wave using some kind of random diffusion device behind the panels. I've heard an eerily deep and focused center image using this technique.

Any other thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 19 Jun 2018, 05:07 pm: I’m fortunate to have a room that sounds pretty good as-is. I don’t use any sound absorption panels behind my speakers but I probably need some on the wall behind my listening position. I think placing absorptive materials behind my speakers would kill the ambience.

My old beam splitter ESLs (below) don’t care what’s behind them or how close they are to the rear wall because the V-section beam splitter deflects the rearward wave front 90 degrees to each side— but I do have to be mindful of their proximity to a side wall, lest early reflections smear the imaging.

In complete contrast, my new H-baffle ESLs are don’t care what’s beside them, as the dipole cancellation creates a null at the sides, but they are otherwise very sensitive to placement, and they need a lot more breathing room behind them.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=181637)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Mike-48 on 20 Jun 2018, 03:59 am: Quote from: BobM on 19 Jun 2018, 12:19 pm
In looking at the pictures of peoples rooms I notice a wide difference in what is BEHIND the speakers.

Most of you have nothing, and I can understand that for WAF or aesthetic reasons. But I think you are leaving it up to chance and losing the opportunity for better sound.

Some of you have absorptive panels, and I don't understand that at all. These are dipoles, meaning sound is coming out the back as much as the front. The charm of panels is the deep soundstage they present because sound comes out the back. Absorbing that is ruining that experience for some of you IMO, though they could be there to help get rid of a bass boom.

Then a few do it the way I do - scatter that back wave using some kind of random diffusion device behind the panels. I've heard an eerily deep and focused center image using this technique.

I'm using Janszens, which are monopole electrostatic down to 500 Hz, so do not radiate to the rear. The kind of soundstage they present is quite different from, e.g., my old Apogees. I like both styles of presentation.

I tried a number of things on the front wall, and I've settled on a combination of absorption and diffusion. I agree with you that pure absorption could damp things down too much. Yet, each room is different, and each set of ears is different, and there's no substitute for trying different things in one's own space.

One can damp bass boom with corner traps and still use diffusion or a combination product (such as the GIK Alpha traps or many ASC products) on the front wall.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jsm71 on 21 Jun 2018, 01:12 am: Quote from: Mike in NC on 20 Jun 2018, 03:59 am
I'm using Janszens, which are monopole electrostatic down to 500 Hz, so do not radiate to the rear. The kind of soundstage they present is quite different from, e.g., my old Apogees. I like both styles of presentation.

I tried a number of things on the front wall, and I've settled on a combination of absorption and diffusion. I agree with you that pure absorption could damp things down too much. Yet, each room is different, and each set of ears is different, and there's no substitute for trying different things in one's own space.

One can damp bass boom with corner traps and still use diffusion or a combination product (such as the GIK Alpha traps or many ASC products) on the front wall.

I agree with Mike. With my JansZens I'm using GIK corner bass traps and Vicoustic front wall diffusion. That has proven to be the best combination for my modest size room. I really like having the center image well focused. It allows better placement of instruments.

I also have GIK diffusor pannels at the first reflection point on the side walls and another GIK diffusor panel on the back wall behind the listening chairs. That had less impact, but the room seems to be working well.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 22 Oct 2018, 12:49 am: Images from the 2018 Carverfest

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=185786)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=185787)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=185788)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jeffreybehr on 29 Nov 2018, 07:16 pm: I still have and love my Quad 2905s...
https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?action=search2

This summer, one started making a weird popping noise that stopped when I unplugged the AC power. Talked to Scott Frankland...
https://www.yelp.com/biz/scott-frankland-associates-san-jose
...the 'Frankland' of Moore, Frankland Assoc. of the '80s and '90s, designers and manufacturers of hi-end tubed electronics. He said one of the panels was arcing and would need to be replaced. I hauled my pair up there (San Jose, fascistfornia), he replaced three panels--two others had started coming apart and rattling--I retrieved them, and they sound excellent. And even tho I LOVE the sounds of my system including the PS Audio BHK300 monoamps*, I'm still thinking about trying my Atma-Sphere M-60s, with and without Zero Autoformers, with the 2905s when the '60s return from being refurb'd at A-S.

Have installed, for use with movies only**, an Ascend Horizon CC speaker; I removed the amppad because the stack was too high.
(https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/members/100092-jeffreybehr/albums/12369-quad-esl-2905-electrostatic-speakers/picture121245.jpg)
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* Oh how I despise the use of the term 'monoblocks', coined, apparently, by Harry Pearson, to describe single-channel poweramps. If a single-channel poweramp is a monoblock, than a two-channel poweramp is a 'stereoblock'. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

** I listen to multichannel music in 4-channel only.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Don_S on 29 Nov 2018, 07:55 pm: Jeffrey,

Thank you for the information on somewhat-local Quad ESL repair. I hope the information is useless. Wink2 No emoji for "fingers crossed".
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jeffreybehr on 29 Nov 2018, 10:18 pm: Quote from: Don_S on 29 Nov 2018, 07:55 pm
Jeffrey,

Thank you for the information on somewhat-local Quad ESL repair. I hope the information is useless. Wink2 No emoji for "fingers crossed".

Ahh...took me a moment to decipher that one. I would have understood 'never used' instead of 'useless' more quickly.

YW. :)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: zuluwarrior0760 on 11 Dec 2018, 07:34 am: Replaced 3.7s with 20.7s......

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=187836)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 11 Dec 2018, 09:47 am: That's quite the step up!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jeffreybehr on 15 Dec 2018, 05:49 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=187987)

Got the Atma-Sphere M-60/3.3s running with only some e-mailed help from Ralph, and they absolutely have enough power for the Quads for me. While the system sounds excellent, I'll reconnect the BHK300s to verify the sound changes. Right now I'm VERY happy.
:D
:green:
:)
:green:
:D
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: jeffreybehr on 17 Dec 2018, 08:43 pm: ...and finally took a minute to remove the bulbs from the two right-hand pilot lites. :roll:
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: TJ-Sully on 23 Dec 2018, 02:00 am: initial setup...

electronics are:
Bryston BIT-20
Bryston BDA2
Bryston BDP-1
Bryston SP1.7
Emotive 250 (temp).
Oppo 203

and of course.....my new addition... Maggies 3.6R (love em!).

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=188265)
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Post by: ajzepp on 23 Dec 2018, 05:00 am: Nice TJ :thumb:
Title: Replaced some parts in my M-60/3.3s and they sound better than ever.
Post by: jeffreybehr on 24 Dec 2018, 10:46 pm: Replaced the two coupling caps with Miflex KPCUs (copperfoil/paper/polypropylene/oil) and added three PS-bypass caps (SoniCap Platinums). See
https://www.audioasylum.com/forums/otl/messages/3/37963.html
for details.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=188327)

The system sounds even better than it did before! :D :green: :) :green: :D
Title: And now, Atma-Sphere MA-1s!
Post by: jeffreybehr on 11 Jan 2019, 07:39 pm: Finally found a pair I can afford on USAudioMart. These version 3.1s turned out to be built in 2007 and came with Chinese 6AS7G Output Tubes and 'N7s. Got them running with the furnished OTs (and cathode-follower) and four of my stash of old-but-good Tung-Sol oval-plate 6SN7GTs. They sound excellent now and will be better soon with new coupling and frontend bypass caps--Miflex KPCU copperfoil/paper&'propylene/oil--and largish SoniCap Platinums--Teflon-alloy/tinfoil--main-PS-bypass caps. Will also add a bunch of SoundCoat the Thicker to the chassis ceiling and transformercover, as these chassis ring more than those of my M-60s.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=188915)
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Post by: Nick V on 29 Jan 2019, 03:51 pm: My system is substantially different than most in this thread, but here goes...

BG Radia in-walls with planar drivers. 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos system with BG Radia SA-320 for front l/r, PD-8i for center and surround l/r, PD-8Ci for Atmos height channels.

I'm using a NAD 758v3 receiver with Dirac Live, this system sounds fantastic for 2 channel music as well as immersive surround!

(https://i.ibb.co/wSZ4xK6/IMG-20190128-144008.jpg)
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Post by: HAL on 29 Jan 2019, 05:31 pm: The Monoliths OB planar and OB servo subs.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=189678)
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Post by: ddark65 on 11 Mar 2019, 07:28 pm: Martin Logan 15a

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=191931)
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Post by: emailtim on 6 May 2019, 05:37 pm: Quote from: ddark65 on 11 Mar 2019, 07:28 pm
Martin Logan 15a

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=191931)

Nice rig. Like your fireplace cover !!!
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Post by: Mike-48 on 7 May 2019, 02:56 am: Very nice looking setup, @emailtim!
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Post by: emailtim on 7 May 2019, 03:39 am: Quote from: Mike in NC on 7 May 2019, 02:56 am
Very nice looking setup, @emailtim!

Not mine, I quoted @DDark65's post. I like his diffuser fireplace cover.
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Post by: Tyson on 7 May 2019, 03:17 pm: Serenity Acoustic Super 7 planar magnetic open baffle with dual 12 inch servo subs per side:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=192588)

And the crossovers with the ridiculous upgrades I put in over the past 3 years:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=192589)
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Post by: ricmon on 7 May 2019, 03:57 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=194340)
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Post by: MtnHam on 7 May 2019, 10:16 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=194344)
Sound Lab Ultimate-1PX Electrostatic Speaker Panels
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Post by: ajzepp on 8 May 2019, 03:08 am: Holy back-to-back behemoths, Batman!
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Post by: WC on 8 May 2019, 03:26 am: They seem to be more like room dividers than speakers.
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Post by: MtnHam on 8 May 2019, 12:37 pm: Quote from: ajzepp on 8 May 2019, 03:08 am
Holy back-to-back behemoths, Batman!

"They seem to be more like room dividers than speakers."

They disappear sonically.
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Post by: timind on 8 May 2019, 04:41 pm: Quote from: MtnHam on 8 May 2019, 12:37 pm
"They seem to be more like room dividers than speakers."

They disappear sonically.

Talk about your wall of sound. Impressive.
How do you get them in the room?
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Post by: MtnHam on 8 May 2019, 04:46 pm: Easy. With the backplates not installed, they are not very heavy. Two people, one on each end can easily carry them through any standard door and up stairs. There are good handholds on the bottom end, and I place a ratchet strap around the top to provide same.
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Post by: MtnHam on 10 May 2019, 02:47 pm: Quote from: timind on 8 May 2019, 04:41 pm
Talk about your wall of sound. Impressive.

Indeed , it is impressive. The sound stage is wide and deep, with precise placement of instruments. The room is fairly large (20wx24dx10'h) so the panels need significant size to activate all the air in the room. The result is magnificent with great realism.

Here are smaller panels (Sound Lab Ultimate 545) in my city (San Francisco) system in a much smaller room. Not quite as impressive, but still delightful.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=194412)

AC members who wish to experience the grandeur for themselves are welcome to come visit. PM me. In July, Sound Lab will be exhibiting their Majestic 645 at the upcoming California Audio Show in Oakland. (https://www.caaudioshow.com/) I will be there.
Tom
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Post by: kach22i on 26 May 2019, 01:07 am: Great thread guys.

http://www.martinloganowners.com/forum/showthread.php?531-System-42-(Aerius)/page3 (http://www.martinloganowners.com/forum/showthread.php?531-System-42-(Aerius)/page3)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=194882)
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Post by: Mike-48 on 3 Jun 2019, 04:21 pm: Quote from: emailtim on 7 May 2019, 03:39 am
Not mine, I quoted @DDark65's post. I like his diffuser fireplace cover.

Me too. Wish I had thought about that when my listening room had a similar layout.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: AvsFan on 19 Jun 2019, 02:05 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=195704)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=195705)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=195706)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=195707)
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Post by: SteveFord on 21 Jun 2019, 12:35 am: Seeing those reminds me of when I first purchased my MMGs many years ago.
Once they broke in I could not have been happier.
Still have them in operation!
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 26 Jun 2019, 12:28 pm: Mervyn's DIY Electrostatic Speakers:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=195957)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=195958)

As you may know; I have a website dedicated to DIY electrostatic speakers and I often receive requests for drawings of my (3) speaker designs. I've only actually built two of my designs but my online friend Mervyn just built the third.

I'm sure that most people take one look at my drawings and cringe at the work involved, and that's as far as they get. But every now and then someone surprises me and actually builds one. Such is the case with Mervyn and his speakers shown above, which I believe are the only pair in existence.

I named the design the 'Eros Clone' because it’s compact transmission line woofer system is patterned after Roger Sanders' Eros speaker.
I'm sure you will be as impressed as I am with Mervyn's work. On the rear view photo, note that the cover is removed from the pocket that houses the segmentation resistor network (Mervyn's modification, and very neatly done)

Enjoy!
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Post by: AvsFan on 26 Jun 2019, 02:12 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 21 Jun 2019, 12:35 am
Seeing those reminds me of when I first purchased my MMGs many years ago.
Once they broke in I could not have been happier.
Still have them in operation!

My first pair of Maggie's and I don't see them leaving this room anytime soon. They ARE keepers!
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Post by: AvsFan on 26 Jun 2019, 02:14 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 26 Jun 2019, 12:28 pm
Mervyn's DIY Electrostatic Speakers:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=195957)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=195958)

As you may know; I have a website dedicated to DIY electrostatic speakers and I often receive requests for drawings of my (3) speaker designs. I've only actually built two of my designs but my online friend Mervyn just built the third.

I'm sure that most people take one look at my drawings and cringe at the work involved, and that's as far as they get. But every now and then someone surprises me and actually builds one. Such is the case with Mervyn and his speakers shown above, which I believe are the only pair in existence.

I named the design the 'Eros Clone' because it’s compact transmission line woofer system is patterned after Roger Sanders' Eros speaker.
I'm sure you will be as impressed as I am with Mervyn's work. On the rear view photo, note that the cover is removed from the pocket that houses the segmentation resistor network (Mervyn's modification, and very neatly done)

Enjoy!

WOW! What a BEAUTIFUL speaker! I bet it sounds just as good as it looks.
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 29 Jun 2019, 07:23 pm: Quote from: ricmon on 7 May 2019, 03:57 pm
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=194340)

That's some awesome looking wall of sound! I don't recognize those speakers... what are they?
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Post by: SteveFord on 29 Jun 2019, 07:45 pm: Magnepan Tympani IVa would be my guess.
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Post by: I.Greyhound Fan on 29 Jun 2019, 11:34 pm: Quote from: ricmon on 7 May 2019, 03:57 pm
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=194340)

Those were the first pair of Maggies that I ever heard and they got me, hook, line and sinker!
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Post by: iFi David on 12 Jul 2019, 08:59 pm: Quote from: I.Greyhound Fan on 29 Jun 2019, 11:34 pm

Those were the first pair of Maggies that I ever heard and they got me, hook, line and sinker!

Well that's a lovely way to decorate a room. I'd like to have this kind of a 'wall' :wink:
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Post by: SteveJewels on 8 Dec 2019, 04:04 pm: They need a little tlc.

I found them on US Audiomart a couple of months ago.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=201681)
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Post by: juszat on 8 Dec 2019, 11:00 pm: Maggie LRS with magnariser stands .
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=201791)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 2 Jan 2020, 11:52 pm: Imagine the wall of sound these will be:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202760)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202761)
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Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 2 Jan 2020, 11:56 pm: WOW! :o
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Post by: SteveFord on 3 Jan 2020, 01:38 am: WOW is right!
Glad to see you're keeping out of mischief (or maybe getting into it)?
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 3 Jan 2020, 02:54 am: I think I bit off more than I can chew this time. The min-buy on the wire was 3,000 meters so I went off the deep end.
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Post by: SteveFord on 3 Jan 2020, 10:07 am: Nothing succeeds like excess.
You can do it!
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Post by: JakeJ on 3 Jan 2020, 02:23 pm: Wow, Jazzman53! Building your own all-electrostatic home theater system? Looks amazing, keep us posted.

I'm soon to be the owner of a pair of Maggie 3.6r in a week or so. Pics to follow.

Jake
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 3 Jan 2020, 06:59 pm: Quote from: JakeJ on 3 Jan 2020, 02:23 pm
Wow, Jazzman53! Building your own all-electrostatic home theater system? Looks amazing, keep us posted.

I'm soon to be the owner of a pair of Maggie 3.6r in a week or so. Pics to follow.

Jake

Actually; only one pair is for me. The other three pairs are for three of my Carver-fest buddies who've been begging me for years to build them. It's a huge amount of work-- I won't be doing this again.

Since I was building four pairs, I had some PC boards made up for the HV bias supplies rather than using prototype perf boards. Below is the HV bias supply and step-up transformers under a plexiglass cover; which sits below the woofer at the rear of each speaker:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202790)
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Post by: JakeJ on 4 Jan 2020, 02:26 am: Very cool! You might think about making a run of your HV boards and sell them to DIYer's. Just for fun.
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Post by: johnto on 9 Jan 2020, 08:12 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202797)
My babies ❤️
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Post by: JakeJ on 29 Jan 2020, 03:37 am: My (new to me) Magnepan MG-3.6r.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=203951)

The gentleman that sold them to me also sold me a pair of DIY xo that takes the place of the stock box. They do in fact sound better.
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Post by: timind on 1 Feb 2020, 08:52 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=204094)
I've had these 1.7s about a week. They take some getting used to, but liking them so far.
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Post by: SteveFord on 1 Feb 2020, 10:06 pm: If the 1.7s are new give them a couple of weeks to loosen up.
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Post by: Craig B on 18 Feb 2020, 09:11 pm: Here's my .7 setup, with Magna Riser Multi-Riser stands. The void between the shelving units will get a drawer storage cabinet, as soon as I can build one.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=204825)
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Post by: Saturn94 on 18 Feb 2020, 11:25 pm: My little planar setup......Magnepan LRS with Magna Risers Airborne stands. :thumb:

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=204856)

Apologies for the bad lighting. :oops:
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 14 Mar 2020, 10:10 pm: More porn for you planar pervs: missing a few woofers but you get the idea...

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=205916)
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Post by: SteveFord on 15 Mar 2020, 12:50 am: Hubba Hubba!!!
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Post by: kach22i on 16 Mar 2020, 05:26 pm: Quote from: johnto on 9 Jan 2020, 08:12 pm
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202797)
My babies ❤️
That's the ticket nothing in between the speakers, or at least if there is, it's low and below ear level.

Only location the subwoofer works in my room, so I'm stuck with a stupid box in the middle.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=206013)
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Post by: kach22i on 16 Mar 2020, 05:29 pm: Quote from: ebag4 on 5 Oct 2010, 10:59 pm
I am seeing a number of these systems with the speakers set up within a couple of feet from the frontwall. Being dipolars should'nt these be set up in a similar manner to OBs, away from the frontwall about 4' or so? If not, why are they different?

Thanks,
Ed

I agree, and one must read the owner's manual.

Mine says 2-3 feet out from the front wall.

Three feet works for me, but I suspect larger speakers require even more space, have read 5-9 feet!

Larger panels require larger rooms, so it makes sense ratio and proportion wise.
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 23 Mar 2020, 07:57 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=206258)
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Post by: Rocket_Ronny on 23 Mar 2020, 08:01 pm: Amazing, Well Done.

Rocket Ronny
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Post by: Donald on 23 Mar 2020, 08:19 pm: :drool: :thumb:
Beautiful Charlie.
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Post by: sshoe3 on 24 Mar 2020, 05:38 am: Long time reader of this forum. Here is my system that gives me unforgettable experiences over the past 6 years. Sam
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=206307)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 26 Mar 2020, 12:11 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=206407)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: raiders4life7 on 2 May 2020, 01:56 am: Quote from: sshoe3 on 24 Mar 2020, 05:38 am
Long time reader of this forum. Here is my system that gives me unforgettable experiences over the past 6 years. Sam
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=206307)

Which speakers are those?
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Post by: raiders4life7 on 2 May 2020, 02:00 am: Quote from: Craig B on 18 Feb 2020, 09:11 pm
Here's my .7 setup, with Magna Riser Multi-Riser stands. The void between the shelving units will get a drawer storage cabinet, as soon as I can build one.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=204825)

What are you driving those with?
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Post by: AvsFan on 6 May 2020, 07:36 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=208492)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: in1unison on 28 May 2020, 04:40 pm: Magnepan 1.7i + NuPrime ST-10M

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=209594)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=209595)
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Post by: earforce on 3 Jul 2020, 08:20 am: Golden hours

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=211266)
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Post by: Triumphant278 on 13 Jul 2020, 10:04 pm: My listening room! Magnepan 1.7i recently replaced my older 1.6QR. The dual Rythmik L12s are hidden behind the Maggies. Powered by my Cambridge Audio CXA80 which is connected to the CXN for streaming purposes.

Looking to create a new system at my temporary condo. I’m thinking .7, but not sure what to power them with. It’s a less dedicated room than this one.

Thanks for viewing!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=211811)
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Post by: I.Greyhound Fan on 14 Jul 2020, 05:40 am: Quote from: Triumphant278 on 13 Jul 2020, 10:04 pm
My listening room! Magnepan 1.7i recently replaced my older 1.6QR. The dual Rythmik L12s are hidden behind the Maggies. Powered by my Cambridge Audio CXA80 which is connected to the CXN for streaming purposes.

Looking to create a new system at my temporary condo. I’m thinking .7, but not sure what to power them with. It’s a less dedicated room than this one.

How do your 1.7i's compare to the 1.6's? What to do like about the 1.7i's? I know that Magnepan removed the mid bass hump that the 1.6's have. I own a pair of the 1.6's and have considered upgrading to the 1.7i's if I don't go in a complete different direction with a pair of Fyne Audio 702's or the new Monitor Audio 300 5G golds. I have a friend that has a pair of 1.7's (not the i) with a pair of Rhythmik subs and his system sounds great. I run my 1.6's with dual subs.

Thanks,

Larry
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 16 Jul 2020, 08:27 am: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=211882)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=211883)
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Post by: eduke55 on 23 Jul 2020, 07:29 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=212235)
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Post by: mijostyn on 30 Jul 2020, 12:32 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=212535)

Not much to see. The 4 amplifiers are directly under the speakers on a shelf up against the ceiling in the basement. On the floor are 4 force cancelling subwoofers in a horizontal line array. They are of my own design and manufacture. The 2001 Monoliths are modified Acoustat 2+2s. I replaced the original interface with my own adjustable high voltage bias supply and a Sowter ESL Transformer which is designed specifically for midrange and treble. It rolls off steeply at 40 Hz but I cross to the subwoofers at 125 Hz so it does not matter. Here is a picture. I put the CD there to give an idea of the size. You will notice the Kimber Cable coming through conduit in the floor. The big gold thing is a 250 watt 1 ohm resistor in series with the primary to keep The Parasound JC 1s from overheating. Driving the subwoofers are two QSC 3602 amps. Each woofer gets 2000 watts. The whole mess will do 115 dB continuously without a hiccup.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=212536)
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Post by: JakeJ on 30 Jul 2020, 02:31 pm: Holy moly! That's one nice rig, mijostyn.
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Post by: mijostyn on 30 Jul 2020, 10:30 pm: It's really great at electrocuting cats also. If you look on the floor in front of the speakers you see a row of plastic mats. They have high voltage wire grids so that anything that steps on them gets a pleasant a ZAP. Now I don't have to worry about another cat getting electrocuted and the cat won't be using my speakers for scratching posts. 8)
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Post by: kevin360 on 1 Aug 2020, 04:36 pm: It's been a while since I posted here and the system has been through many phases, recently reaching extreme complication. I've decided to simplify, for a while at least. I even decided to build it around my old Marantz PM-11S1. It seems that the 100wpc integrated wasn't just up to the challenge when the 3.7s were in a small bedroom (most impressive bass I've ever heard out of a pair of Maggies), but it's perfectly happy driving them in a ~600sq' room. The tape on the floor is for my other pair of mains - still haven't decided which pair I prefer, so I switch back and forth every few months and it's like having a brand new system. :D

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=212626)

A side benefit to paring down the component count and staying in the 2-channel realm is that the wiring is cleaner.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=212627)
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Post by: Chops on 4 Aug 2020, 04:29 am: (https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945122958-5.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945122957-5.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945122984-5.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945123005-5.jpg)
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Post by: pompon on 4 Aug 2020, 01:12 pm: Quote from: MtnHam on 7 May 2019, 10:16 pm
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=194344)
Sound Lab Ultimate-1PX Electrostatic Speaker Panels
That is a speaker! 8-) WOW
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: mr_bill on 4 Aug 2020, 04:08 pm: Quote from: Chops on 4 Aug 2020, 04:29 am
(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945122958-5.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945122957-5.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945122984-5.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945123005-5.jpg)

Those are really nice - what speakers are those?
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Post by: won ton on on 4 Aug 2020, 04:52 pm: mr_bill they look like Martin Logans to me ,not sure which model.
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Post by: Chops on 4 Aug 2020, 08:09 pm: Correct. They're the SL3, built in January of 1998.
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Post by: mr_bill on 5 Aug 2020, 03:26 am: They’re really nice.
Looks like you may have refinished the wood trim pieces?
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Post by: Chops on 5 Aug 2020, 04:22 am: Nope. That's the original 22 year old walnut.
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Post by: Emil on 5 Aug 2020, 05:17 pm: That is one sexy looking speaker

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945123005-5.jpg)
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Post by: Chops on 5 Aug 2020, 11:10 pm: Thank you. You should hear them sometime! :thumb:
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 5 Aug 2020, 11:20 pm: Quote from: Emil on 5 Aug 2020, 05:17 pm
That is one sexy looking speaker

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3945123005-5.jpg)

Yeah-- what HE said!
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Post by: Chops on 7 Aug 2020, 02:38 am: Thank you! Still tweaking placement, about a half inch at a time. :whip:
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Post by: /mp on 13 Aug 2020, 04:29 pm: I wondered as well. They seem too large for SL3s. I thought they were Quests until I saw the sloping cabinet top. They're parallel to the floor on my quests. The walnut rails look particularly nice in your milieu.

Enjoy in good health,
/mp
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: HappytrailsPC on 19 Oct 2020, 10:24 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216028)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: MontyMo on 22 Oct 2020, 10:17 pm: Acoustat Model 3 modified to include the servo amps. Not mine, on loan...

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216135)
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Post by: Rocket_Ronny on 22 Oct 2020, 11:17 pm: Nice. I owned IIIs before. Don't be afraid to put them almost against the outside walls and pull them right out into the room, even up to your stands. You are missing all the soundstage magic.

Rocket Ronny
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: JakeJ on 4 Nov 2020, 03:17 am: It's a disease I tells ya!

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216545)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: SteveFord on 4 Nov 2020, 07:00 am: Details, please!
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: brooklyn on 4 Nov 2020, 04:18 pm: Maggie .7’s with Magna Riser Airborne Stands and an REL T5 Sub.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=216559)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: JakeJ on 4 Nov 2020, 07:18 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 4 Nov 2020, 07:00 am
Details, please!

Well sir, an audio bud that lives in PDX often puts his gear up for sale on USAM. I stumbled across his ad for a pair of 1+1's and ended up with these because they are his best pair and because he wanted to be able to hear them occasionally. Some custom work on the interfaces that I forget about. They sound fantastic with Class A amplification and throw a big, deep soundstage. Still working on placement.

So now I own two full range dipole open baffle speakers, one planar magnetic and the other electrostatic. I also have one pair of speakers that are monopole planar magnetic, VMPS RM-30 M, and a few pairs of cones and domes. Unless something super special comes along I think I'm set for now.

Currently in the process of acquiring a pair of Threshold SA/1 Class A monoblock amps. Minty to begin with (very low hours) and planning on sending to Threshold for resto/upgrades. Until the next great piece comes along.
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Post by: SteveFord on 4 Nov 2020, 08:51 pm: Looking at the last two photos (Brooklyn and Jake J), I'd say that both of you guys have it made.
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Post by: JakeJ on 5 Nov 2020, 02:19 am: :oops: Well, to tell the back story I am preparing to retire in about two years and I am collecting toys for that future. I'm pretty satisfied with my choices and am looking for more unique gear to collect. I wish my place was a bit bigger so I could store more stuff and set up more systems.

To that end I think I'm going to swap my office (a small 12' x 10' room) and my master bedroom (~12' x 18'). I can shove my bed in the small room and turn the Master into another pretty nice listening room. The long term downside is in about 7-10 years the new bedroom will become too far from the bathroom for those midnight emergencies. LOL!
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Post by: SteveFord on 5 Nov 2020, 11:03 am: I can relate to stocking the treasure chest but I went with motorcycles and guitars.
I don't think I'll ever get bored!
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Post by: brooklyn on 5 Nov 2020, 03:44 pm: Thanks Steve, I’m on a similar path like JakeJ, I’ll be retiring in less then two years and also collecting the toys I want going forward.. I started putting my latest system together about a year ago and it hasn’t stopped yet. I still love seeing the Fedex driver pull up with something new, it never gets old.

I would also like to have a larger room but that ain’t happening unless we move and that ain’t happening any time soon.. JakeJ, that is one kick ass system you have there. I got allot of catching up to do.. lol..
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Post by: wdlvwdlv on 5 Nov 2020, 08:56 pm: Quote from: kevin360 on 1 Aug 2020, 04:36 pm

A side benefit to paring down the component count and staying in the 2-channel realm is that the wiring is cleaner.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=212627)

I like all the photos but strange that this resonated so strongly. Well done
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Post by: SteveJewels on 7 Feb 2021, 01:37 pm: Mk 1, Mod 0

I finally have a place to put these. Got them set up two weeks ago. This is Mk1, Mod 0 of a journey to integrate Tympani IVa base, mid panels and ribbon tweeter with B&G RD75 mids and bi-amp.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=220611)
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Post by: sbank on 22 Mar 2021, 06:51 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=222271)
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Post by: viper414 on 21 Apr 2021, 07:43 pm: Here's Mine(It's a mess I know but this is temporary and for experimentation only..my house with dedicated space for these is nearly completed and will try to present it as neatly as possible)

For now it's my laboratory to find my ideal sound :D

Ask away any questions regarding the following list of equipment currently owned:
Projector: Optoma UHD60 4K HDR + Tripod 100'' screen placed in front of the audio equipment for movies.
IT equipment: HTPC/Apple TV 4k
Software: Tidal/Plex/Roon/REW+MIC for digital room corrections where needed using ROON DSP features
Turntable: Pro-Ject Debut Carbon
DACs: SMSL SU8 V2 and Topping D50+P50
AVR: Yamaha RX-A2050 9.2
Pre-Amplifier: Audiolab 8000C and a special DIY SRPP pre-amplifier loaned from a friend (Big monster pre-amp that is on elevated box)
Power Amps: 1 x Cambridge Audio 651W, 2 x Yamaha AS-500 stereo integrated, 2 x Yamaha P5000, 2 x Hypex Based Monoblocks NC1200 OEM(loaned from friend also)
Speakers: Magnepan LRS, Magnepan MG12QR, Magnepan MMG-W(Rear surrounds), Klipsch RP-160M on Mission Stancette Stands(with GR Research crossover Upgrade)+another single RP-160M used as center channel
Subs: Boston Acoustic VR500+ JAMO J112 both powered by Yamaha P5000 since internal amps are dead
Open Baffle subs used along with LRS: Celestion 6000 Dipole subs(probably older than me but they are just amazing when paired with the LRS)
Cables: Just highest quality Interconnects and biggest gauge copper wires I find locally. I don't care for branded expensive cables

Initial Setup
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=223660)

Changes Made after reading The Audiophile's Guide- PS Audio- Paul (Very insightful and well worth it)- Test CD is already needed to make it work.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=223661)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: viper414 on 21 Apr 2021, 07:45 pm: Quote from: Jazzman53 on 16 Jul 2020, 08:27 am
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=211882)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=211883)

Just wow. all DIYs?
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Post by: klao on 3 Jun 2021, 06:25 am: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=225133)

An almost proper current picture of my planar. :D
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 3 Jun 2021, 06:01 pm: Quote from: viper414 on 21 Apr 2021, 07:45 pm
Just wow. all DIYs?

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=225188)

Yes; the speakers, subs and rack are DIY.

I've been building and refining my ESL designs for thirteen years.
Details, build photos, schematics, etc. are shown on my website here: http://jazzman-esl-page.blogspot.com/

And here's a video of my Jazzman MkIII speaker design:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?view=detail&mid=6796692ABE1605FDDC246796692ABE1605FDDC24&q=charlie+mimbs+youtube&shtp=GetUrl&shid=f2b0f88c-6c5f-4b49-9066-5920e5325473&shtk=SmF6em1hbiBNb2RlbCBJSUkgRVNM&shdk=VGhpcyB2aWRlbyBpcyBhYm91dCBKYXp6bWFuIE1vZGVsIElJSSBFU0w%3D&shhk=6syiVE9kqE0JL0pDHL3XZ%2FdVCf%2F%2BKfdnYvkCwlvS3rQ%3D&form=VDSHOT&shth=OSH.9aS6JI59hLYaLDLgQU2YDA
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Post by: LouM5 on 24 Sep 2021, 05:33 pm: Hi Guys,
I'm old 68yrs but new to Hi-Fi and this forum.
Thought I would add to the porn lol.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=230141)

Just got the 1.7is a couple weeks ago.
Still in the process of getting my system completed.
Deciding on dual or triple Gr Research OB subs.
I see a few Vandersteens 2WQs for sale also.
Any input on the subs would be appreciated.
Room will be decorated soon.
Lou.

Magna-Riser Ascension Stands
Node2i
Oppo 205
Directstream Dac
W4S STP-SE Stage 2 Preamp.
Parasound A21+
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: johnto on 24 Sep 2021, 10:52 pm: Nice set up wishing you many happy hours.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: mcmusicman on 25 Sep 2021, 01:50 am: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=230563)

Magnepan 1.7
NuPrime DAC10
EAR Yoshino 868
Bryson 4B3
Elac 3030 12" w/ Auto EQ Correct
Qobuz via Audirvana
15x12x9
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Fuse on 19 Oct 2021, 03:43 pm: Custom ribbon/planar/woofer cone hybrids

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=231023)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Jazzman53 on 19 Oct 2021, 03:55 pm: Quote from: Fuse on 19 Oct 2021, 03:43 pm
Custom ribbon/planar/woofer cone hybrids

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=231023)

I've not seen any of these before... are those commercial or DIY?
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Post by: Mikko Dee on 12 Nov 2021, 10:25 am: SoundLab A1’s

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=232043)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=232044)
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Post by: Craig B on 12 Nov 2021, 03:22 pm: Quote from: raiders4life7 on 2 May 2020, 02:00 am
What are you driving those with?

My apologies for not keeping up with the thread until now.

At the time of the photo, they were driven by an Emotiva BasX A300, but last fall I replaced that with a pair of PS Audio M700 monoblocks.
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Post by: stanley_j on 30 Jan 2022, 11:52 pm: Hi! I'm a newbie here, and was immediately drawn to this Circle.

These are the Quad ESL-63 USA Monitors that I used for over 20 years. That is a Vanderseen 2WQ sub holding up a lamp in the corner. This system really sang in a smallish listening room.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=236293)
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Post by: SteveFord on 31 Jan 2022, 03:01 am: Well Tempered square motor, too.
You have good taste in stereo gear!
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Post by: /mp on 31 Jan 2022, 01:51 pm: +1

Do you pull the quads away from the back wall for listening?
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Post by: Philip J Fry on 31 Jan 2022, 06:02 pm: (https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=236319)

T1Ds with ARC D79A and Rappaport Amp-1.
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Post by: stanley_j on 31 Jan 2022, 09:34 pm: Quote from: /mp on 31 Jan 2022, 01:51 pm
+1

Do you pull the quads away from the back wall for listening?

No, that was a very small room. In another home, I did have them placed about three feet from the rear walls and mounted on Arcici stands. They definitely benefited from having more 'breathing room.'
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Post by: stanley_j on 31 Jan 2022, 09:38 pm: Quote from: SteveFord on 31 Jan 2022, 03:01 am
Well Tempered square motor, too.
You have good taste in stereo gear!

Thanks!

That's a great turntable, and it was also my daily driver for over 20 years. I recently sold it to a friend who is still enjoying it.
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Post by: firewall on 1 Feb 2022, 11:02 pm: Dear Reader,

Here's my Magnepan home theater/music system.

I'm temporarily using a pair of KEF LS-50 wireless for the rear channels until my .7s return from the factory.

I run MMG-W wall speakers for surrounds and a CC5 center.

Does anyone have experience with the CCR center vs the CC5? Please let me know your thoughts.

Thank you.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=236414)
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Post by: SteveFord on 1 Feb 2022, 11:19 pm: I do not but I'm told it's a significant step up.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Craig B on 2 Feb 2022, 12:16 pm: Quote from: Philip J Fry on 31 Jan 2022, 06:02 pm
T1Ds with ARC D79A and Rappaport Amp-1.

Rappaport! That's a name I haven't heard in decades! I think the last time I saw it in print was in The Audio Critic.
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Post by: Chops on 29 Mar 2022, 01:38 am: Been a while since I posted in this thread.

I've since parked the Martin Logan SL3's for a while, and went back to my true love, Magnepan's! A new pair of 1.7i's with a new pair of SVS PB 1000 Pro subs and a new Quad Artera Pre preamp. Almost forgot how much I love the Maggie sound.

Oh, and we also purchased a house since the last post here. The listening room is much larger than the room in the last house that we were renting.

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p985655972-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p947952891-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p654358-6.jpg)
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Post by: Saturn94 on 29 Mar 2022, 01:43 am: Nice! :thumb:
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Post by: Chops on 29 Mar 2022, 01:59 am: Quote from: Saturn94 on 29 Mar 2022, 01:43 am
Nice! :thumb:

Thank you. It's nice to have some Maggies again. My first pair were some MGLR-1 all the way back in 1997! Had them only a couple years and sold them for some dumb reason. Been hunting for that Maggie sound ever since in every brand speaker other than Magnepan. Never found it. Go figure. LOL

I'm not selling these 1.7i's, that's for sure.
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Post by: Saturn94 on 29 Mar 2022, 02:16 am: Quote from: Chops on 29 Mar 2022, 01:59 am
Thank you. It's nice to have some Maggies again. My first pair were some MGLR-1 all the way back in 1997! Had them only a couple years and sold them for some dumb reason. Been hunting for that Maggie sound ever since in every brand speaker other than Magnepan. Never found it. Go figure. LOL

I'm not selling these 1.7i's, that's for sure.

I got my first Maggies in the early 1980s (a pair of SMG). After a few years I sold them and got a pair of ADS L1290 (wanted better base response). It was difficult finding anything that didn’t sound like a box compared to the Maggies. The ADS were the rare exception and I enjoyed them for decades.

Fast forward to 2019, I noticed all the positive experiences with the then new LRS. Having always remembered Maggies fondly, I decided to give them a try (at $650 with a 60 day return window, not much to lose). Also, now that I had a great sub, so bass extension wasn’t an issue. Needless to say, the LRS did not disappoint! :thumb:
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Post by: bakufu on 29 Mar 2022, 06:35 pm: i thought some might be interested in seeing two early generations of my planar systems.

circa 2009, a pair of emerald physics cs1.3's + funk audio subs w/ modwright and ampzilla amplification and a prism orpheus preamp/dac.

circa 2000, a pair of apogee divas, krell fpb 600, and krell cd player/preamp.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=239011)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=239012)
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Post by: Jrimer on 29 Mar 2022, 09:39 pm: Here are some of my 90’s era panel speakers ready for rotation into my system. The monster electrostats on the left are Acoustat Spectra 66’s. The small Apogees in the background are Mini Grands. I run these as Stages without the built in subs. Preferring a Rythmik servo sub instead. The lovely shiny planars are, of course, the infamous Apogee Scintillas. If you are on this forum, you know the story. These have been completely reconditioned with new ribbons, caps, aligned magnets, and glossy paint by TSW in Nevada. I love having all these vintage speaker choices!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=239021)
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Post by: ACHiPo on 29 Mar 2022, 09:58 pm: Here are my "skinny" Sound Lab Majestic 745s

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=239022)

I inserted AV Roomservice EVPs under the panels, and the bass got even better. (Not sure how to rotate the image 90º?)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=239023)
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Post by: SteveFord on 29 Mar 2022, 11:41 pm: I used my super powers.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=239026)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 30 Mar 2022, 08:27 am: XXX rated porn, that is!
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Post by: Chops on 12 Apr 2022, 01:28 am: Picked up this super mint, fully restored Pioneer RT-1020L from my father over the weekend. This is one of the many reasons why I decided to purchase the Quad Artera preamp as it has what they call an RCA "AUX" preamp output, which completely bypass the volume, so it gets full signal from all of the inputs, including the balanced input. Pretty much like a "tape loop" on old preamps and receivers from back in the day. I have a couple of Ampex 456 tapes, though I have no idea what's on them if anything. Guess I'll find out in the next couple of days or coming weekend.

Soon will come another Pangea rack for a couple cassette decks, dbx goodies and turntable, as well as the hunt beginning for some RTR tapes. Also have to get some new interconnects as the Wireworld Oasis ones I have, the machined ends on them are too thick to fit comfortably in the jacks on the Pioneer. Those jacks are just placed slightly too close together.

Anywho, on with some pics...

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p176912846-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p446146716-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p152294390-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p75584862-6.jpg)
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Post by: Jazzman53 on 12 Apr 2022, 01:40 am: Wow Chops,

That 10" Pioneer tape machine looks great and it sure brings back memories for me. For many years I used a Pioneer RT909, which was also a fantastic machine.

If you can get hold of a DBX 224 tape noise reduction unit to pair up with that tape machine, you will really have something special. The noise reduction is merely a desirable by-product of the DBX224-- the real advantage is that it doubles the energy/dynamic range that can be stored on the tape. Basically; it compresses the dynamic range by 2:1 before recording it on the tape, and then at playback it expands it by 1:2. Along with the playback expansion, the tape noise reduces to inaudible levels.
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Post by: Chops on 12 Apr 2022, 01:51 am: Thank you!!

I think I have that covered already! LOL I have both versions.

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3928439458-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p3944758924-6.jpg)
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Post by: ACHiPo on 13 Apr 2022, 12:40 am: Quote from: SteveFord on 29 Mar 2022, 11:41 pm
I used my super powers.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=239026)
Thanks Photoman!
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Post by: Rocket_Ronny on 13 Apr 2022, 01:25 am: Great stuff everyone.

Here is mine. Ahem, not the usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_zBpFfzxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA7eZ1pFRRA

Rocket Ronny
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Post by: Chops on 1 May 2022, 03:41 am: Expanded on the system today...

Another five shelf Pangea rack
Technics SL-1700 MKII Turntable
Azden GX-50 Equalizer
Nakamichi DR-1 Cassette Deck
dbx 400x Active Program Route Selector
dbx 224x Noise Reduction

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p309982909-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p428963627-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p532445540-6.jpg)
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Post by: gregmacknass on 17 Jul 2022, 11:27 pm: Here is my system as it exists currently.
Magnepan 20.7
Emotiva XPR-1 monoblocks
Conrad Johnson 17LS2 preamp
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=242857)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=242858)

I have to say that the sound from this combination is quite magical. The 17LS2 really brought life to the XPR-1's
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Post by: SteveFord on 18 Jul 2022, 11:50 am: I know the sound of that preamp, that does work well with Magnepans.
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Post by: Chops on 5 Sep 2022, 03:01 am: Now with the integration of GIK Acoustic panels...

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p88883991-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p181930790-6.jpg)

And kitty approved!
(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p408776498-6.jpg)
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Post by: Saturn94 on 5 Sep 2022, 03:44 pm: Awesome! :thumb:
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Post by: BikeFi10 on 11 Nov 2022, 02:56 am: Best mode for listening. :popcorn:
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=246419)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Carlton9000 on 26 Dec 2022, 08:02 pm: Apogee Scintilla one ohm
VTV Purifi HP Mono blocks
ARCAM ST60
Nordost Red Dawn
ROON
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248116)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248116)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Saturn94 on 26 Dec 2022, 10:57 pm: Quote from: BikeFi10 on 11 Nov 2022, 02:56 am
Best mode for listening. :popcorn:
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=246419)

Makes you want to get up and dance! :banana piano:
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: Saturn94 on 26 Dec 2022, 10:58 pm: Quote from: Carlton9000 on 26 Dec 2022, 08:02 pm
Apogee Scintilla one ohm
VTV Purifi HP Mono blocks
ARCAM ST60
Nordost Red Dawn
ROON
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248116)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248116)

Beautiful. :thumb:
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Post by: emailtim on 27 Mar 2023, 02:11 am: New spin on the Tympani / Neo8 mod.

(https://i.imgur.com/acIrIRf.jpg)
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Post by: Chops on 9 Jul 2023, 08:27 pm: Some major upgrades to the system last month...

Auralic Altair G1 streamer
Pass Labs XP-20 dual-chassis preamp

Oh, and a new 75" Samsung QN85B Neo QLED TV

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1978095299-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p1978969111-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2081581619-6.jpg)
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Post by: Chops on 9 Sep 2023, 07:05 pm: And another major upgrade... A sweet pair of Odyssey Stratos monoblocks.

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2565433757-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2415184065-6.jpg)

(https://charlest.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-10/p2565433766-6.jpg)
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Post by: won ton on on 9 Sep 2023, 08:29 pm: Chops nice set up you have there.are those Maggie speakers?
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Post by: Chops on 9 Sep 2023, 11:57 pm: Quote from: won ton on on 9 Sep 2023, 08:29 pm
Chops nice set up you have there.are those Maggie speakers?

Thank you, sir. And yes they are, 1.7i's.
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: gary7 on 1 Oct 2023, 02:40 am: My MG-IIIAs. Have had as my mains for 6 years. Record for me.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257155)(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257156)
Title: Re: Planar Porn - we want to see!
Post by: gary7 on 1 Oct 2023, 02:43 am: Some reason pics showed sideways. Can I edit them? Got it. Thanks.