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Title: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 28 Mar 2018, 09:22 pm
I have been moving a lot of product lately from our old location to our new location. And man we have a lot of X-Voce crossovers in stock.

The X-Voce is a great center channel speaker. It combines a high level of transparency, with high sensitivity, high dynamics, and with an easy to drive load. Plus, the quality level of the drivers are excellent. It is one of the best center channel speakers out there. And the basic kit is marked at only $189. The drivers alone sell for $169.70. By the time I throw in the binding posts cup, wire, solder, heat shrink, and screws the total is already at $189. So the crossover is essentially included for free.

(http://gr-research.com/productimages/x-voceblack.jpg)

Add some X-Statik's up front and you have an excellent front three. And the X-Statik's are priced ridiculously low as well at just $379 a pair. 

(http://gr-research.com/productimages/groupshot1.jpg)

And the frequency response on all of these are super smooth.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: SoCalWJS on 29 Mar 2018, 05:31 pm
That is a hell of a deal, Danny. Still love my X-Voce CC. Not an exact match, but pretty good nonetheless.

I always planned to upgrade the crossover to match the Super V's a bit closer (or the LS6's. I keep switching what does HT & what does 2 channel  :oops:). Never got around to it. Someday....

They still sound very good - good enough in fact that I use it instead of my Theil MCS-1.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: WC on 29 Mar 2018, 05:48 pm
What are the dimensions of the X-voce?
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 29 Mar 2018, 06:44 pm
What are the dimensions of the X-voce?

They are 36" wide, 8.5" tall, and 15" deep.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Nick77 on 29 Mar 2018, 09:39 pm
Just curious, what would be the upgrade path be on that stock crossover??
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: SoCalWJS on 29 Mar 2018, 10:58 pm
Just curious, what would be the upgrade path be on that stock crossover??

I remember back in the day, the Skiing Ninja had quite a few options. Sonicap Bypass, Better Coils, etc. Can't remember the specifics, but they got pretty expensive pretty quick. I remember going through his website one time and I added up all of the top of the line options, and it was roughly twice what I paid for the speaker itself.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 30 Mar 2018, 01:58 am
Just curious, what would be the upgrade path be on that stock crossover??

Cap upgrades get you the furthest. Tube connectors instead of the stock binding posts take clarity up a level as well. They are actually real easy to tweak up. The crossover is easily accessed right behind the mids.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: nickd on 31 Mar 2018, 04:21 pm
Man that’s a great deal.  :o
I bought some X series used for home theater for about 7 years ago. I will say this, there never has been, or ever will be, a better value in ultra high end home theater. Glad to see Danny still offering these kits especially at these prices. :thumb:
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Chops on 25 Apr 2018, 02:00 pm
I can definitely vouch for the quality and sound of the X-Voce. I ordered one as well as the X-Statik's when they were first released. I'm sure I was in the first 50-100 people to order and receive these speakers. The X-Voce was and still is the absolute best sounding center channel speaker I have ever heard at any price point. Clear, dynamic, natural, effortless and BIG sounding. It places the action above it up on the screen where it belongs, not below it, and definitely not small, strained, boxed or cupped sounding like so many lesser CC speakers out there.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: corndog71 on 25 Apr 2018, 03:07 pm
I'm still rocking the X-Statik, X-Voce and X-Omni speakers in my home theater along with a GR/Rythmik sealed servo sub on the left.  With an inexpensive Marantz receiver these provide a dynamic and spacious sound.  Highly recommended!

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/906/41695504341_a761a5d312_c.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/26wumMT)Living room system (https://flic.kr/p/26wumMT)
by Rob C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/79446895@N00/), on Flickr

All got upgraded crossovers too.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/981/27826840688_b26e846890_c.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/JoXQgj)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/JoXQgj)
by Rob C (https://www.flickr.com/photos/79446895@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: flavo on 7 Mar 2019, 11:14 pm
Danny, do you still have any of the centers built? Or is it just the kits left?
With the cap upgrades, do you do them or do you just send them with the board for the purchaser to complete?
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 8 Mar 2019, 12:15 am
Danny, do you still have any of the centers built? Or is it just the kits left?

I have quite a few completed ones left.

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With the cap upgrades, do you do them or do you just send them with the board for the purchaser to complete?

I'd rather send you the parts and let you upgrade them because of my limited time, but if you are not in a hurry, then I can do it.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: flavo on 8 Mar 2019, 08:20 pm
PM sent to Danny.
Does anyone know where to find the post about the left over pre built speakers? I thought it was pinned before.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 8 Mar 2019, 11:02 pm
PM sent to Danny.
Does anyone know where to find the post about the left over pre built speakers? I thought it was pinned before.

Here are the colors that are left: https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=142796.msg1523724#msg1523724
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: mrogers22 on 13 Mar 2019, 11:39 pm
Danny,

I'm planning on building a pair of X-Statiks in the future, but it might be awhile, so I have three questions about the X-Voce:

If I purchased three of them, could I set them up as an L-C-R system?

Can I take them apart in the future and use the parts to build a pair of X-Statiks?

If I purchased three of them, could you comp or discount the shipping?

Thanks much, Mark from Melbourne, FL (32934).
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Phil A on 14 Mar 2019, 12:57 am
Danny,

I'm planning on building a pair of X-Statiks in the future, but it might be awhile, so I have three questions about the X-Voce:

If I purchased three of them, could I set them up as an L-C-R system?

Can I take them apart in the future and use the parts to build a pair of X-Statiks?

If I purchased three of them, could you comp or discount the shipping?

Thanks much, Mark from Melbourne, FL (32934).

Welcome, Mark (I am not far 32940).  In a spare system I have a pair of GR Research N3s (after 3 posts you'll have more access to the site, including searches and PMs)
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: mrogers22 on 14 Mar 2019, 09:56 am
Welcome, Mark (I am not far 32940).  In a spare system I have a pair of GR Research N3s (after 3 posts you'll have more access to the site, including searches and PMs)

Phil, thanks neighbor.  The X-Statiks always caught my eye and I wanted to try an OB.  I am also intrigued by the N series.  The DaVanti and the Centrare are also of interest.  I have a large family room (14' x 22' extending another 14' with the kitchen) and always assumed 5 1/4" might be a little undersized.  I have a pair of Vandersteen C2Is currently and love them but don't like the center channel that I have paired with them (Paradigm - love Paradigms but not as a center match with the Vandy's).

What are your mains in your main (non spare) system?  Mark
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 14 Mar 2019, 03:18 pm
Danny,

I'm planning on building a pair of X-Statiks in the future, but it might be awhile, so I have three questions about the X-Voce:

If I purchased three of them, could I set them up as an L-C-R system?

Using them as left and right mains would not be ideal, but you could do that.

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Can I take them apart in the future and use the parts to build a pair of X-Statiks?

They share the same drivers, but nothing else.

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If I purchased three of them, could you comp or discount the shipping?

On those I can't. I am not making anything on those. They are already cut down to the bone. I am guessing that shipping will be in the $42 to $68 range per unit.


Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: flavo on 14 Mar 2019, 05:49 pm
Mark,
You would also need to get those tweeters up to ear height.
So they would look pretty funny. 
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Phil A on 14 Mar 2019, 09:08 pm
Mark - have a bunch of systems.  I have Thiel 3.7s in the main system. New to the area?  If so, where did you relocate from (assuming of course you’re not in the Witness Protection Program :lol:).
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: mrogers22 on 14 Mar 2019, 11:03 pm
Rich, 
I grew up in Titusville, went to high school and college in Kentucky (UK),  moved to Melbourne after graduation and have worked at Harris since 1982.  Have been aware of AV123 and GR-Research for several years.  Bought an X-LS Encore center channel kit a year or two ago and haven't gotten around to building it yet.  I retired 7 years ago, but went back to work part time for the past two years.  Will retire again in a few weeks.

Love audio, but since I spent most my life in FL, I'm outside too much to get too much into it.  I'm starting to lean towards convenience.  Trying to automate much of it with Amazon Echo.  Not being real successful, yet.

Forgot my password for the past year or so.  When I saw the X-Voce thread again, I figured I need to re-investigate the option.  Sounds like it will be a bit more expensive converting them to X-Statiks, but I could get some immediate use out of them.  Would like to see the fit and finish of them up close.  Taking on the X-Stat kits for my first set of speakers is ambitious, but very doable.

Decisions.  Mark
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: mrogers22 on 14 Mar 2019, 11:09 pm
Danny,

Thanks much.  Sounds like the LCR configuration isn't the best fit.  I really like the X-Statiks and probably should head in that direct.  I still have my X-LS Encore center to build.  Hate to pass up on the X-Voce completed center, but its a tight fit (but that's what a saw and a hammer are for).

I'll think it over and thanks again.  Mark
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: flavo on 14 Mar 2019, 11:10 pm
Mine showed up today and I have to say this thing is much nicer looking then I expected it to be. Even seeing all the photos. This has some serious presence for the cost.
What do you suggest for protection on the bottom? Will I be doing it a disservice by just throwing some rubber dots in each corner?
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: dlynch34 on 6 Aug 2019, 02:39 am
are there any x-voce left to buy?
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 6 Aug 2019, 04:22 am
are there any x-voce left to buy?

Yes, I still have fully assembled units in Moho Natural and Moho Rosa finishes.

Kits are also available. http://gr-research.com/x-voce.aspx
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: dlynch34 on 6 Aug 2019, 02:44 pm
awesome does the kit come with drawings for the cabinet install?  I would need to find someone to help me with cabinet making most likely... Where would I send money for one of the already built ones?  Thanks
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 6 Aug 2019, 03:35 pm
awesome does the kit come with drawings for the cabinet install?  I would need to find someone to help me with cabinet making most likely... Where would I send money for one of the already built ones?  Thanks

Yes, the kit comes with cabinet drawings.

The completed ones have been marked down to $250. That is a steal of a deal.

You can just call GR Research anytime and order one.   940-592-3400
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: RonP on 6 Aug 2019, 05:47 pm
The completed ones have been marked down to $250. That is a steal of a deal.

How many do you have left at this price?
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Danny Richie on 6 Aug 2019, 05:58 pm
How many do you have left at this price?

There are 10 of them left.
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: Kazoom on 30 Jan 2020, 03:55 am
Would the Voce-X be a well matched center channel with NX-Tremes flanking on the Left and Right channels? 

Or is there a need for some crossover adjustments?

Just thinking ahead here as I formulate a plan for a home cinema build in the next year.

Thanks
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: infinite1der on 7 Feb 2020, 07:33 pm
Just starting on my x-voce kit. I'm using this as a challenge to see how well I can handle the DIY kits. The x-voce will replace my x-cs-encore that ...just doesn't have the soundstage to match my x-statiks. I finished with the crossover upgrades today (soldering is no-biggie for me). I've drawn out the cuts I need for the MDF, which I plan to start this weekend. Assuming it all goes well, the OB dual sub kit is next on the list!

--JamesT
Title: Re: The X-Voce center channel.
Post by: bfs21 on 8 Feb 2020, 09:23 pm
Kazoom, if I'm not mistaken the NX-Tremes grew out of Danny's design for the NX-Otica, which itself had a first incarnation as the X-Otica.

This model emerged when Neo3 tweeters were in short supply, so Danny used the silk dome tweeter popular in the X-series models. The result, in theory, should be a very high-performing left-right speaker that also blends with the X-Voce center.

There has been some talk about getting flatpacks made for those of us who'd like the original X-Otica. Currently we don't have enough people to do a run, but a few more takers might get us there.

https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=166021.0