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Industry Circles => Bryston Limited => Topic started by: schmidtmike76 on 3 Nov 2016, 03:04 pm
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Any thoughts compared USB vs coax coming out from a digital player into Bryston dac. I seen in the Pi manual that USB could be superior any thoughts
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The short answer: Trust your ears.
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I ordered a cardas serial bus USB the clear shoots from 250 to 600 couldn't justify it.
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Any thoughts compared USB vs coax coming out from a digital player into Bryston dac. I seen in the Pi manual that USB could be superior any thoughts
As 'Mouse said -- Listen first, decide for yourself.
Personally, I would never spend more than $60 for a USB 0.5m cable. Furutech Formula-2 is well-built and can be bought for about that amount.
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Has anyone so far actually compared the sound of BDP-pi against BDP-1/2?
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Let us know how you like the new USB cable.
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I will do. The cable should be here in a few weeks.
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I did compare the USB vs coaxial. As far as I understand the USB path is a shorter one and it bypasses the internal sound card. In my setup the USB sounds very lean, flat,uncoloured,undistorted,may be too sterile in some systems. The coaxial sound has more meat on the bone with more colours, punchier drums,more distortion.
I prefer the punchier,thicker presentation with rich,colourful sound even if it comes with higher distortion-at least to my ears
I guess the studio engineers prefer the USB sound which is the more accurate/flat of the two.
Hope this helps
AG
BDP-2,BDA-2,4BSST2,BP26,Pass Labs XP10,X350.5,Dynaudio C4,DH labs Q10,silver sonic XLR, Kimber AGDL
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Thanks for that input I stuck to coax and sold my USB without listening to it. Im using Nordost blue heaven right now, I find it a bit lean but lighting fast and clean
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Im using Nordost blue heaven right now, I find it a bit lean but lighting fast and clean
That's a nicely built cable. I used the BNC version for a while, between BDP / BDA. Good improvement over a Canare cable, but not as full as a Cardas Parsec BNC, which is priced similarly.
Happy New Year.
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I got the best sound with Kimber AGDL
I have tried DH labs D-750 but it sounded too thick in my set up
AG
BDP-2,BDA-2,4BSST2,BP26,Pass Labs XP10,X350.5,Dynaudio C4,DH labs Q10,silver sonic XLR, Kimber AGDL
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I could use more bottom end and more thickness in the middle, the speed and detail of the Bryston along with the Focal 1027's could use some help down below. Ill look into that Kimber I know my dealer has that line.
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I got the best sound with Kimber AGDL
I have tried DH labs D-750 but it sounded too thick in my set up
AG
BDP-2,BDA-2,4BSST2,BP26,Pass Labs XP10,X350.5,Dynaudio C4,DH labs Q10,silver sonic XLR, Kimber AGDL
I got the best sound with purchasing the best speakers I could afford, and best suited for my room and tastes. I made sure the amplification was capable as well. Room treatments were also a big benefit. REW software is FREE and useful. I can never understand why someone would tune their sound with cables. It just does not make sense when the speaker/room interaction has the biggest influence over all the other parameters. :duh: Genesis 1.2 speakers, Bryston 2 x 7bsst, BP25, Tri-Vista 21 DAC, Jkenny streamer, Genesis servo amp, home built pc, foobar .083, and some cheap a$$ Blue Jeans cables. Just in case you wanted to know..
It sounds glorious!
MAK
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Cables do have sound characteristics. I would call it fine tuning
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+1
I couldn't agree more
Yes that's exactly what I do. If you have already chosen the right electronics,done the room treatment what else left to do? Fine tune your system with the matching cables.
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Before toying around with expensive cables, you should always adjust your system within the room until you have a good--even-- sense of "energy" from all frequencies. Otherwise "tuning" with cables can yield pretty weird results. But of course your mileage may vary and if you're happy with your results, so be it....but I agree with MAK, your room is way more influential than any cable :)
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I got the best sound with purchasing the best speakers I could afford, and best suited for my room and tastes. I made sure the amplification was capable as well. Room treatments were also a big benefit. REW software is FREE and useful. I can never understand why someone would tune their sound with cables. It just does not make sense when the speaker/room interaction has the biggest influence over all the other parameters. :duh: Genesis 1.2 speakers, Bryston 2 x 7bsst, BP25, Tri-Vista 21 DAC, Jkenny streamer, Genesis servo amp, home built pc, foobar .083, and some cheap a$$ Blue Jeans cables. Just in case you wanted to know..
It sounds glorious!
MAK
Excuse me but how much are the Genesis 1.2 speakers? This ad says $300K?
https://www.higherfi.com/speakers/genesis-12
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Thanks for that input I stuck to coax and sold my USB without listening to it. Im using Nordost blue heaven right now, I find it a bit lean but lighting fast and clean
yup, the Nordost house sound. Lean and fast
charles
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Excuse me but how much are the Genesis 1.2 speakers? This ad says $300K?
https://www.higherfi.com/speakers/genesis-12
You answered your own question. :lol:
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You answered your own question. :lol:
I thought it might have been a typo. Can you post a pic of your system please? They must need a lot of space to really open up.
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I thought it might have been a typo. Can you post a pic of your system please? They must need a lot of space to really open up.
I'm not that computer savvy to be able to post pictures. But, my speakers are the Infinity Composition Preludes PF-R with the driver matching center as well as driver matching rears and side surrounds speakers. My sound is seamless and very enveloping. These speakers are driven by a Bryston 2.5sst2 and a Krell KAV-500 amp for the center and rears. I have two Velodyne subs, the HGS-18 and HGS-12. I also have the Bryston BDP-2 digital player and its BDA-3 D/A converter. All my cables are blue truth silver cables from Bettercables.com. And of course the anchor is my processor, the Bryston SP3. When I heard both ATMOS and Auro 3D or whatever, the sound was more enveloping than life, itself, and it felt gimmicky because I never hear object base in real life whereby I am distracted by sound above me. I hear sound basically at ear level with low frequency sounding omnipresent no matter where its located. But, more importantly, my SP-3 is enveloping enough with a sound quality that eluded that Anthem Processor I heard in the ATMOS demo. The ATMOS codec did not impress me and now I know it is the quality of the sound not the quantity of the sound thats important. In fact, too many speakers in a room causes all sorts of sonic anomalies no EQ system can correct. In fact, most Bryston folks advocate room treatment over using EQ so that the sound will not be compromised. Its a philosophy that is part of Bryston product design. If you ever get a chance, try and pick up a used SP-3. You will forget about codecs for sure. :)
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I'm not that computer savvy to be able to post pictures. But, my speakers are the Infinity Composition Preludes PF-R with the driver matching center as well as driver matching rears and side surrounds speakers. My sound is seamless and very enveloping. These speakers are driven by a Bryston 2.5sst2 and a Krell KAV-500 amp for the center and rears. I have two Velodyne subs, the HGS-18 and HGS-12. I also have the Bryston BDP-2 digital player and its BDA-3 D/A converter. All my cables are blue truth silver cables from Bettercables.com. And of course the anchor is my processor, the Bryston SP3. When I heard both ATMOS and Auro 3D or whatever, the sound was more enveloping than life, itself, and it felt gimmicky because I never hear object base in real life whereby I am distracted by sound above me. I hear sound basically at ear level with low frequency sounding omnipresent no matter where its located. But, more importantly, my SP-3 is enveloping enough with a sound quality that eluded that Anthem Processor I heard in the ATMOS demo. The ATMOS codec did not impress me and now I know it is the quality of the sound not the quantity of the sound thats important. In fact, too many speakers in a room causes all sorts of sonic anomalies no EQ system can correct. In fact, most Bryston folks advocate room treatment over using EQ so that the sound will not be compromised. Its a philosophy that is part of Bryston product design. If you ever get a chance, try and pick up a used SP-3. You will forget about codecs for sure. :)
Hi Gbaby
Email me and I can post it for you - jamestanner@bryston.com
james
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I'm not that computer savvy to be able to post pictures. But, my speakers are the Infinity Composition Preludes PF-R with the driver matching center as well as driver matching rears and side surrounds speakers. My sound is seamless and very enveloping. These speakers are driven by a Bryston 2.5sst2 and a Krell KAV-500 amp for the center and rears. I have two Velodyne subs, the HGS-18 and HGS-12. I also have the Bryston BDP-2 digital player and its BDA-3 D/A converter. All my cables are blue truth silver cables from Bettercables.com. And of course the anchor is my processor, the Bryston SP3. When I heard both ATMOS and Auro 3D or whatever, the sound was more enveloping than life, itself, and it felt gimmicky because I never hear object base in real life whereby I am distracted by sound above me. I hear sound basically at ear level with low frequency sounding omnipresent no matter where its located. But, more importantly, my SP-3 is enveloping enough with a sound quality that eluded that Anthem Processor I heard in the ATMOS demo. The ATMOS codec did not impress me and now I know it is the quality of the sound not the quantity of the sound thats important. In fact, too many speakers in a room causes all sorts of sonic anomalies no EQ system can correct. In fact, most Bryston folks advocate room treatment over using EQ so that the sound will not be compromised. Its a philosophy that is part of Bryston product design. If you ever get a chance, try and pick up a used SP-3. You will forget about codecs for sure. :)
I get it, you have quality from one end of the chain to the other. I feel like that about my inexpensive desktop system too. I am using JBL 230 speakers which only cost $400. I look at the Revel 106 for $2000 and know the SQ is better. But everytime I turn on those JBL's being driven by Sunfire/Carver electronics I get so locked in I can't imagine changing anything. It feels great when you reach the point of saturation and can just enjoy.
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I get it, you have quality from one end of the chain to the other. I feel like that about my inexpensive desktop system too. I am using JBL 230 speakers which only cost $400. I look at the Revel 106 for $2000 and know the SQ is better. But everytime I turn on those JBL's being driven by Sunfire/Carver electronics I get so locked in I can't imagine changing anything. It feels great when you reach the point of saturation and can just enjoy.
Yeah... Just... Wow...