What about the JBL LE8T or LE8T-H

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What about the JBL LE8T or LE8T-H
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Re: What about the JBL LE8T or LE8T-H
« Reply #1 on: 8 May 2015, 01:51 am »
Depend on the price, if the price is low...
Its not shocking detailed as a Alnico FR as the moving mass is heavy=16g, against 9,7g from the inexpensive Visaton B200.

Neither you will get much SPL as its 89dB.
It could be a interesting driver in a 115L BR box as the specs suggest.
Price aside you could be better served with the Fostex F200A or Alpair12P.
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Re: What about the JBL LE8T or LE8T-H
« Reply #2 on: 8 May 2015, 11:19 am »
Had JBL L-44's back in the 70's (don't recall the driver, but it was 8 inch extended range with 8 inch passive radiator in a similarly sized cabinet).  It was a favorite in the dorms.   :o :oops:

BTW, the Fostex F200A is no longer available.  According to Madisound Fostex had been filling orders a few at a time with spare parts, years after they announced it would be discontinued, but finally ran out of parts.   :cry:

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Re: What about the JBL LE8T or LE8T-H
« Reply #3 on: 17 May 2015, 08:18 am »
The LE8 was a classic, extremely good within its intended design remit of useable output to about 10KHz & with a well-behaved roll-off; it's down about 12dB by 20KHz so will benefit from partnering with a supertweeter. As for comparison to the Visaton B200, other than approximate size they are rather different, the B200 being a higher Q unit intended for OB and sealed box variations. The JBL has somewhat better off-axis performance due largely to its cone profile. The B200 has a higher nominal sensitivity, but not by as much as claimed, since they typically measure a good few dB down on what the data sheet implies, usually coming in around 91dB as I recall. The big AlNiCo motor is decent too, i.e it's well designed, as you would expect from JBL, but which is not always the case elsewhere -far too often AlNiCo, Neodymium etc. are employed for marketing reasons without any actual performance benefits over a decent ferrite (and there are lots of different grades of all magnet materials).

Be that as it may, it's still an excellent unit of its type, and it wasn't around for years without good reason, but since it's now considered a classic, you pay through the eyes and nose.

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Re: What about the JBL LE8T or LE8T-H
« Reply #4 on: 17 May 2015, 11:15 am »
Scoot,
Do you could inform us your impressions on this Tone Tubby 12'' 16 ohms?
http://www.tonetubby.com/specs/red-12-16.html

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Re: What about the JBL LE8T or LE8T-H
« Reply #5 on: 18 May 2015, 02:17 pm »
Nothing profound. Based purely on the published data, it is what it is: a large guitar speaker likely intended for large sealed boxes or open back applications. Both the response trend and the electromechanical + mathematical T/S derivations are in line with that. Low electrical & mechanical damping, fairly high F0. The numerical sensitivity figure is high as they've presumably taken it at 3KHz where it's in massive resonance, or averaged across a select range. Probably the former. Not a unit I'd likely use for home audio purposes -fine no doubt for what it's designed for, which isn't the same thing. If you're thinking high Q unit for OB bass or similar, I'd be after one with a lower F0. YMMV as ever of course.

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Re: What about the JBL LE8T or LE8T-H
« Reply #6 on: 19 May 2015, 11:43 am »
Nothing profound. Based purely on the published data, it is what it is: a large guitar speaker likely intended for large sealed boxes or open back applications. Both the response trend and the electromechanical + mathematical T/S derivations are in line with that. Low electrical & mechanical damping, fairly high F0. The numerical sensitivity figure is high as they've presumably taken it at 3KHz where it's in massive resonance, or averaged across a select range. Probably the former. Not a unit I'd likely use for home audio purposes -fine no doubt for what it's designed for, which isn't the same thing. If you're thinking high Q unit for OB bass or similar, I'd be after one with a lower F0. YMMV as ever of course.
Thanks Scott, you most kind. :thumb: