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Title: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 3 Jan 2023, 03:12 am
Just sharing my enthusiasm for the prospects of Klaus and crew shipping my Liquids out by the end of the month. I was introduced to the Odyssey gear at CAF and my lovely wife either tired of me talking about the experience in the CAF room or just loves me so much she ordered me a pair for Christmas. Final design touches are being decided on the fly, but basically Monkey Wood front and top with either stained or lacquered black sides and back outlined with the lighter routed edges. Funky!
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: GentleBender on 3 Jan 2023, 10:30 am
Congratulations! I look forward to hearing your thoughts on them. What amps are you using to drive them?
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 3 Jan 2023, 05:24 pm
Thanks. Right now I am using a Naim Supernait 3 / ND5 XS2 combo. I am looking to sell an investment property and if I do then the electronics are next. I really like the SuperNait but I'm intrigued by the Sonnet Hermes/Pasithea combo for a streamer and DAC. If I go that route I am considering three amplifier options; Klaus's Kismet Reference of course, the Sonnet Kratos monos or my heart strings are tugging me towards a demo model ModWright KWH 225i for a really attractive price. I have always loved those things and feel it would pair very very nicely with the Sonnet pieces and the Liquids.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: Yog Sothoth on 4 Jan 2023, 01:05 am
Very cool!  I can't speak to the Kismets, but I love love love my Stratos.  I don't think you can go wrong with Odyssey, from my subjective sound quality experience and from an objective build perspective!
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: keenween on 4 Jan 2023, 05:40 am
I look forward to pictures! I like the wood baffle with black look.

Will this be the 2.5way floorstanding configuration?
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: qdrone on 4 Jan 2023, 09:16 am
I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine. They truly for the money can't be beat. I was listening to Aerosmith Rocks this am and Joe Perry has some tasty licks on Back in the Saddle that I previously never heard. These Liquids are revealing. :thumb:
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 4 Jan 2023, 06:53 pm
Very cool!  I can't speak to the Kismets, but I love love love my Stratos.  I don't think you can go wrong with Odyssey, from my subjective sound quality experience and from an objective build perspective!

Thanks! I kinda prefer the aesthetic of the Stratos……
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 4 Jan 2023, 06:53 pm
I look forward to pictures! I like the wood baffle with black look.

Will this be the 2.5way floorstanding configuration?

I look forward to some pics too! Haha, thanks. Yes, 2.5 way three driver model.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 4 Jan 2023, 06:56 pm
I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine. They truly for the money can't be beat. I was listening to Aerosmith Rocks this am and Joe Perry has some tasty licks on Back in the Saddle that I previously never heard. These Liquids are revealing. :thumb:

I’m coming from Cornwall IVs so I understand revealing speakers! Glad you are enjoying yours, looking forward to getting mine, getting them properly placed and burning them in. I ordered brass feet (three with front one slightly shorter) for the speakers, black maple plinths from Butcher Block Audio and am using SVS Soundpath subwoofer feet for the plinths (I had them sitting around from when I had subs). Do you use plinths?
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: qdrone on 4 Jan 2023, 10:28 pm
Yes,I bought them from Klaus used, $150 for the pair.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: JMW73 on 4 Jan 2023, 10:46 pm
Thanks! I kinda prefer the aesthetic of the Stratos……

Get Kismets built in the Stratos case.  That's what I did.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: JCarney on 5 Jan 2023, 04:07 am
tparm, you gotta post pics when they arrive so we can see the unpacking and set up. As the rule is here, pics or it didn't happen. :lol:

JCarney
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 5 Jan 2023, 09:05 pm
tparm, you gotta post pics when they arrive so we can see the unpacking and set up. As the rule is here, pics or it didn't happen. :lol:

JCarney
:beer: Yes sir, wanna make sure I am in compliance of the rules! Haha. Thanks for indulging me.

Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: JCarney on 5 Jan 2023, 09:31 pm
:beer: Yes sir, wanna make sure I am in compliance of the rules! Haha. Thanks for indulging me.

 :thumb:

Klaus does nice work, so I'm looking forward to an update from you.

JCarney
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 12 Jan 2023, 04:57 pm
My plinths await my Liquids.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248710)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248711)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248712)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248713)
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: uncola on 14 Jan 2023, 11:49 pm
can't wait to hear your impressions of the liquids.  and see how your chosen veneers/woods look
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: Oostexan on 17 Jan 2023, 01:37 pm
My plinths await my Liquids.

OK...so love the plinths.  Where did you get those??
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 18 Jan 2023, 06:14 pm
My plinths await my Liquids.

OK...so love the plinths.  Where did you get those??

Hi @Oostexan, they came from Butcher Block Acoustics. Mapleshade also makes really nice ones, but for my room I liked the black aesthetic. Klaus recommends 4” and these are 3”, but will be fine. I got the brass feet from Eden Sound Audio, super nice people.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 3 Feb 2023, 08:07 pm
...little delayed, hopefully finally getting these thing in a week.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: qdrone on 3 Feb 2023, 11:07 pm
There worth the wait.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: Oostexan on 15 Feb 2023, 04:43 pm
...little delayed, hopefully finally getting these thing in a week.

So have they shown up yet?  Any pics you would care to share?
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: klaus@odyssey on 15 Feb 2023, 08:15 pm
Not yet...fighting with material availability.....but we're talking a week or so now..........also for all of the other orders,  will have that material in as well...........
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: rollo on 15 Feb 2023, 08:23 pm
  Many of my lines are affected by parts right now. Lasers especially. Hey Klauss



charles
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: hpc on 15 Feb 2023, 11:35 pm
Klaus says mine are coming up very shortly  - should see them mid-to-late March.

Mine are red gum as in the wood - not red bubble gum.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 17 Feb 2023, 09:40 pm
@klaus is doing what he can. Doesn’t mean I’m not lying awake at night like a 9 year old on Christmas Eve….. I’ll post pics as soon as soon as I get them! Plus I just sold my Cornwall IVs, was more quickly then expected, so I’m speakerless.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: JCarney on 17 Feb 2023, 10:07 pm
@klaus is doing what he can. Doesn’t mean I’m not lying awake at night like a 9 year old on Christmas Eve….. I’ll post pics as soon as soon as I get them! Plus I just sold my Cornwall IVs, was more quickly then expected, so I’m speakerless.

NOOOOOO! We're all pullin for ya tparm, hang in there. Got an audio buddy that can loan you a pair of anything?

JCarney
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: wgraft5 on 18 Feb 2023, 01:15 am
@klaus is doing what he can. Doesn’t mean I’m not lying awake at night like a 9 year old on Christmas Eve….. I’ll post pics as soon as soon as I get them! Plus I just sold my Cornwall IVs, was more quickly then expected, so I’m speakerless.

Murphy's Law in effect :duh:
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 18 Feb 2023, 02:39 am
NOOOOOO! We're all pullin for ya tparm, hang in there. Got an audio buddy that can loan you a pair of anything?

JCarney

Thanks! It’s all good. Traveling some next week so no biggie. If we go past the week after I might have to pull my old Polk Monitor 5Bs out of the garage. My first home “audio” purchase for my dorm room back in 1990!
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 19 Feb 2023, 02:59 am
Murphy's Law in effect :duh:

Indeed.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 27 Feb 2023, 11:59 pm
And closer!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=250529)
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 8 Mar 2023, 09:00 pm
So close I can almost smell them....... All goes as planned and the creek don't rise, I'll see these tomorrow evening!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=250748)
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: JCarney on 8 Mar 2023, 09:09 pm
 :hyper:

JCarney
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: wgraft5 on 8 Mar 2023, 11:36 pm
Cool Man, Very Exciting :thumb:
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: keenween on 9 Mar 2023, 12:37 am
Oh yeah!
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: uncola on 9 Mar 2023, 04:20 am
Beautiful baffle
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 10 Mar 2023, 06:49 pm
And….. Klaus says I shouldn’t love them yet, but I do. :D

Room finally about done too, shelves from Klaus to match the veneer on the Liquids to follow.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=250810)


(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=250808)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=250809)
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: hoard on 10 Mar 2023, 07:48 pm
Very nice, they look excellent

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=250813)
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 10 Mar 2023, 09:10 pm
Oh shoot, sorry about the sideways photo and thank you.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: wgraft5 on 10 Mar 2023, 09:19 pm
 :thumb: Very Nice :thumb:

I am guessing 400 hours to fully brake in. You can speed up the process by running heavy bass music during the day and brown, pink, or white noise at night. Then it takes about 3 weeks.

The room looks wonderful.

Have fun with your new toys.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: Loki57 on 10 Mar 2023, 10:34 pm
Good looking room to let the Liquids breathe.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: JCarney on 11 Mar 2023, 03:21 pm
Very Nice! Sweet ass room. Many years of enjoyment will be had in that room. Well done.

JCarney
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 13 Mar 2023, 01:20 pm
Thanks for the kind comments. I know they need more time, but the transformation after about 65-70 hours is quite surprising. Finally sat down for about two hours last evening and went through a very eclectic set list. Not once was the tweeter overly pronounced or artificially sibilant, the bass is just astounding (too much so for a couple of days), the tonal texture and cohesiveness best I've heard in my room and oh my word, as all of you know, the imaging/soundstage is NUTS. I was playing around with the Chesky Audiophile Speaker Set Up disc (downloaded stream) and while I've experienced width of the soundstage (the Polk LSiM707s were surprisingly good in this area) I've not heard such depth before. So great. I can't wait to hear how the sound evolves over time. Well done Klaus.

For anyone interested the baffle of the speakers is 4' 6" from the back wall, the rear corner of the speakers at 18" form the side wall making them about 10' from tweeter to tweeter and I sit about 8'5" from them.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: GentleBender on 13 Mar 2023, 03:11 pm
Those speakers look great in that room. I’m happy for you.  :beer:
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: BikeFi10 on 14 Mar 2023, 03:49 pm
Great looking room and speakers. What are the panels behind liquids? What is the rest of your rig?
Im a big fan of soundstage. Its been hit or miss with my Magnepan 7i s. From my experience, I think box speakers might work better for that. Less back reflects to confuse things. I havent heard liquids. They look so "simple" to have such great soundstage people speak of.
So after a 4 month remodel, rig upgrade including a Kismet in Kartago that just bruned in after 3 months, Im losing my music room due to family moving in for awhile. Sympathy flowers accepted :(
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: qdrone on 14 Mar 2023, 06:08 pm
I told you they were worth the wait. They look fabulous  and I bet they sound like the Sirens of Vahalla announcing your arrival. Enjoy and good health...
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 16 Mar 2023, 03:44 pm
Great looking room and speakers. What are the panels behind liquids? What is the rest of your rig?
Im a big fan of soundstage. Its been hit or miss with my Magnepan 7i s. From my experience, I think box speakers might work better for that. Less back reflects to confuse things. I havent heard liquids. They look so "simple" to have such great soundstage people speak of.
So after a 4 month remodel, rig upgrade including a Kismet in Kartago that just bruned in after 3 months, Im losing my music room due to family moving in for awhile. Sympathy flowers accepted :(

Sorry about your room! If you need temporary home for your amps let me
Know.  :D Those are ATS corner bass traps, I have 2” panels on the ceiling, slat walls with carpet padding on left side wall covering a hole for a rack from when I had a full HT set up. I’m using a Mola Mola Kula with Tambaqui DAC/Roon. Audio Art statement AC and speaker cables. I actually removed some diffusion and acoustic panels when I went to a 2 channel system. Also just installed simple crown moulding to get rid of the 90 degree transitions in the room. Haven’t done an RT60 measurement but things are sounding really good. The speakers are truly incredible.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: Baemer on 13 Apr 2023, 01:24 pm
Congrats on these beauties, and an amazing room!

What specific speaker stands/blocks are you using?  I am expecting some Kismet Floorstanders some time in the next month, and love to hear thoughts on what folks have found to benefit the sound.

Thank you!  B
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 14 Apr 2023, 08:54 pm
Congrats on these beauties, and an amazing room!

What specific speaker stands/blocks are you using?  I am expecting some Kismet Floorstanders some time in the next month, and love to hear thoughts on what folks have found to benefit the sound.

Thank you!  B

Thanks, Liquids continue to impress. I’m using 3” butcher block acoustics finished in matt black with SVS Soundpath feet. With the bass driver on the Liquids the plinths play a significant role in tidying up the bass. Per Klaus’s recommendation I used brass (from Edensound) feet on the speakers, two on back corners and one slightly shorter one in front. Also, these thing center image for days, also per Klaus, less toe than you think, fine tune by ear. Finally, instead of a perfect triangle (seat to speakers, speakers to each other), move the MLP to about 80%, ie of speakers are 10’ apart from tweeter to tweeter, place your main listening position about 8’ from each speaker. I’m about 85% instead of 80%, and sounds great.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: Baemer on 15 Apr 2023, 02:51 pm
Thank you, @tparm!
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: vinny1 on 15 Apr 2023, 10:08 pm
Hi TParm,

Do you have the brass feet threaded in? If so, did you have Klaus pre-drill holes to accept it? Waiting in line on my liquids too 😃.

Thanks
Vinny1
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: Rshorb on 16 Apr 2023, 07:59 am
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Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 17 Apr 2023, 05:09 pm
Hi TParm,

Do you have the brass feet threaded in? If so, did you have Klaus pre-drill holes to accept it? Waiting in line on my liquids too 😃.

Thanks
Vinny1

Vinny1, waiting is difficult, haha. I do have mine threaded. I ordered the threads from Amazon and drilled them myself. Klaus provided photos of the crossover mounted before buttoning up the speakers so I knew I had plenty room if I stayed out towards the edges of the bottom plate of the speakers.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 17 Apr 2023, 07:41 pm
Forgot I took a photo.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=252196)
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: vinny1 on 22 Apr 2023, 07:50 pm
Thanks. This helps. I ordered the same one from edensound.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: dpatters on 22 Apr 2023, 08:21 pm
I had the Edensound Footers. They were ok. Changed to TrackPoint with much better results

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=171938)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=171939)
Don P
Title: Re: LIQUIDS for $ 150.00 a pair?
Post by: liptrader on 24 Apr 2023, 11:00 pm
That must be a typo. Probably that’s what Klaus paid to ship them or you really know how to put on a beggar’s act. Anyway the LIQUIDS are worth their weight in gold. Enjoy them, give them a hug and kiss so they’ll sound sweeter. Don’t let you wife see you.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 25 Apr 2023, 01:56 am
I had the Edensound Footers. They were ok. Changed to TrackPoint with much better results

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=171938)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=171939)
Don P

I’d suggest trying placing the speakers on maple plinths, likely make more of a difference than the feet.
Title: Re: My Liquids < a month away!
Post by: tparm on 25 Apr 2023, 01:57 am
Actually no idea what speakers those are so my statement, and a comparison of the two, may be useless.