VMPS RM V60 question and Build

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shauk786

VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« on: 12 Apr 2020, 08:52 pm »
Since we are in a pandemic lockdown and staying home, it is time for me to start on a project to build a new pair of V60s. I have the cabinets, bases and all drivers needed to start the build. and that since 2015, sitting in my garage.

First I want to thank John Casler and Dave Housteau for providing me with a lot of valuable information on the V60s, however, we are not sure how the neopanels are wired.

Dave thinks that the top pair, middle pair and bottom pair are wired in parallel but not sure how the pair is wired.

Greatly appreciated if any vmps v60 owner can confirm.

Shaukat
« Last Edit: 11 May 2020, 02:27 am by shauk786 »

ZAKski288

Re: VMPS RM V60 question
« Reply #1 on: 13 Apr 2020, 01:21 am »
Hello Shaukat, what finish are your RM V60?  Here is how the bass module is wired, 14ga. Analysis Plus was used. Good luck with assembling Ken


shauk786

Re: VMPS RM V60 question
« Reply #2 on: 13 Apr 2020, 01:54 am »
Zakski288

Thank you for the base connection. Any idea about the Midrange Neopanels?

ZAKski288

Re: VMPS RM V60 question
« Reply #3 on: 13 Apr 2020, 02:24 am »
Not really sure, wires are all twisted together, you might have to assemble the mid panels with temporary wires until you think it’s right. Mid section at binding post 4.7 ohms , Bass section 4.1 ohms. Also the tweeter is Aurum Cantus G3si.

shauk786

Re: VMPS RM V60 question
« Reply #4 on: 13 Apr 2020, 02:44 am »
Thank you again.

I already have all the necessary drivers including the Aurum Cantus G3si. I will advise how the project progresses.  :D

Regards.

Stimpy

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Re: VMPS RM V60 question
« Reply #5 on: 14 Apr 2020, 04:49 pm »
I sent a PM to AC Member, and RM V60 owner, Housteau.  Hopefully, he can help with these questions.

shauk786

Re: VMPS RM V60 question
« Reply #6 on: 14 Apr 2020, 05:15 pm »
Stimpy,

Thank you. I have already been in contact with Housteau and received very valuable information already.

Regards,

shauk786

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Buid
« Reply #7 on: 17 Apr 2020, 04:51 am »
Today, I opened 3 crates. 2 for the wings and 1 for the two bases . some pictures attached.





















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Now the fun starts.

1,) Good to see that the bases come the grills on.
2.) Screw holes already pre-drilled for the neos.
3.) Not provided: Dowels needed to attach wings to bases and will need to be purchased. what type and size did Brian used?

My next step is to install the 12 Neos and the 6 woofers. I need to order some 14 AWG analysis plus wire for the bases.

More to come...



Stimpy

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Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Buid
« Reply #8 on: 17 Apr 2020, 09:56 am »
Beautiful cabinets...!  I'll watch this thread, most definitely.

Now, passive or active crossovers?  Do you have the crossovers?  A schematic, and if so, could you share it?

Thanks. :D

Oh, my apologies about Housteau.  I got so excited about what you were doing, I overlooked what you had already done.  Still, I truly hope the proper wiring method can be determined.

Good luck.

Stimpy

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Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Buid
« Reply #9 on: 17 Apr 2020, 10:02 am »
You've probably already seen these.....







Housteau

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Buid
« Reply #10 on: 18 Apr 2020, 03:36 am »
It's a big project in several ways, but the end result will be worth it.

shauk786

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #11 on: 18 Apr 2020, 07:56 pm »
Stimpy,

I plan the V60s to operate both Active and Passive:

1.) Passive by developing the crossovers for the bass, mid and High
2.) Active on the bass and Mid using the Xilica D4080 and passive on tweeter per Brian Recommendation.
3.) Fully active on all bass, Mid and High using the Xilica. For that I will develop a "digilog cable" with a protection cap and attach to the + treble binding post. (We will see how that will work)

Dave - thanks for chiming in.

While I wait for the ordered parts to arrive, here is a diagram of how I envisage hooking up the Neopanels:




ZAKski288

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #12 on: 18 Apr 2020, 09:26 pm »
Here is how binding post are on top of base cabinets 1 1/2” holes, 3/4” apart , 1” deep. I think they were done with a hole saw. Ken


Housteau

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #13 on: 18 Apr 2020, 10:26 pm »
Mine are flush.


shauk786

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #14 on: 18 Apr 2020, 11:48 pm »
Yes,

Ken's is quite elaborate  :lol:. For simplicity, I will drill 4 holes similar to Dave's.

I have also noticed while experimenting, there is quite a gap above the neopanel. See picture. Looks like I will need to have some gaskets underneath each neo for a flush look with the cabinet.


How does yours look?

Also how thick is the damping foam glued to the wings?
« Last Edit: 19 Apr 2020, 12:50 am by shauk786 »

Housteau

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #15 on: 19 Apr 2020, 12:58 am »
Mine are flush.








Housteau

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #16 on: 19 Apr 2020, 01:10 am »
The foam is 1" x 4". 

The wooden wave guides look awesome on this speaker, but really harm the balance in sound.  If you are a 2 channel person who sits in the sweet spot, then don't use them.  On the other hand if you care about more of a uniform high frequency balance throughout the room, then give them a try.

OldScott

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Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #17 on: 19 Apr 2020, 01:45 am »
My friend Dave (who has the first pair of RM V-60s and I the second) is absolutely correct.  The wave guides really look cool but the speakers sound far, far better without them

ZAKski288

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #18 on: 19 Apr 2020, 02:31 am »
Hello Shaukat, the top of base cabinet is 1 1/2” thick, you will still have to recess either the top or from the inside, most speaker binding post are only 1 1/2” long. Maybe you can find some longer ones. Ken

shauk786

Re: VMPS RM V60 question and Build
« Reply #19 on: 19 Apr 2020, 10:31 pm »
Ken,

You are correct. It is hard to find any binding posts longer than 1.5 inches. Will need to recess the top inside the base cabinet around the posts location.