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Title: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: rollo on 5 Sep 2021, 02:32 pm
  Yup it happened. Amps, power Conditioners, Cables, LPs CDs. Other gear partially affected. Was thinking I can open the electronics and clean with alcohol or ?? Any suggestions or am I pissing in the wind trying to restore the electronics ?

charles
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: JLM on 5 Sep 2021, 03:08 pm
Better to file a homeowner's insurance claim.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Phil A on 5 Sep 2021, 03:19 pm
Agree with the above for sure.  Don't know if this helps as well - https://restorationmasterfinder.com/restoration/how-to-clean-sewage-backup/    The only back-up I've ever dealt with was in a basement bathroom and mainly in the shower pan (and a drop on the tile floor) and that was a heavy dose of bleach.  At the time, I was having my master bath remodeled (I ripped up the old stuff including the tile but the tile work I wanted was a bit too intricate for my skills).  The master bath was on the other side of the house (from the basement bathroom I cleaned) and a floor up and not all that close to the door to the basement and the guy remodeling could hardly take the bleach fumes (in the master bath) after I was done and couldn't believe I actually survived it.  I just wanted it done as it was mainly confined to the shower pan.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: SteveFord on 5 Sep 2021, 03:42 pm
Sorry to hear that one.
I'd do both: try and clean up AND file a claim.
I have to ask, any Schiit gear involved?
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: RPM123 on 5 Sep 2021, 04:26 pm
Sorry about your misfortune! Anything affected by raw sewage would first need to be disinfected with a bleach solution and would involve getting everything wet again. A huge undertaking! Hopefully you have a good homeowners policy since I believe that you could declare a total loss. Pictures would help filing your claim. Good luck!
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: WGH on 5 Sep 2021, 04:52 pm
Not exactly the same but computers are a lot more sensitive than audio gear

Cleaning mineral oil off components
https://www.overclock.net/threads/cleaning-mineral-oil-off-components.1077586/ (https://www.overclock.net/threads/cleaning-mineral-oil-off-components.1077586/)

Polywater
- available as a spray and 1 gallon, 5 gallon and 55 gallon drums
https://www.polywater.com/ (https://www.polywater.com/)
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: rockadanny on 5 Sep 2021, 05:07 pm
Oh crap! I am so sorry this happened.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Don_S on 5 Sep 2021, 05:43 pm
We need more information. Insurance may not cover anything or be limited. Storms, flooding, and sewer backup have different coverage. Getting new gear is obviously the best option but that may not be covered by insurance.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Rusty Jefferson on 5 Sep 2021, 06:17 pm
Many, many homeowners policies don't cover sewage backup and or storm damage like you all just went through. I hope you're covered for this and whatever damage your house suffered.

I know it sounds crazy but there's a guy on the YouTube who power washes equipment. If it wasn't turned on at the time and you were going to take a hit I'd probably start removing lids and washing them our. Final rinse with distilled water and immediately dry with whatever means you have available. Compressed air, low temperature oven, dehumidified room, paper towels....

Good luck.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Mathew_M on 5 Sep 2021, 06:31 pm
I have to ask, any Schiit gear involved?

I see what you did there and it wasn’t funny.  :nono:
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Bob2 on 5 Sep 2021, 06:52 pm
I see what you did there and it wasn’t funny.  :nono:

Actually it was Funny!
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: RDavidson on 6 Sep 2021, 12:17 am
I'm sure the OP is pretty stressed out with all this. But at the end of the day it's just stuff. Stuff can be fixed or replaced (usually). And who knows? Sometimes an unplanned restart isn't a bad thing despite how much it stinks (literally) at the moment. Some light hearted humor can help keep things in perspective. :thumb:

Anyway...hope you get things sorted out quickly Rollo.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: TomS on 6 Sep 2021, 01:15 am
Sorry to hear Charles. I had something similar happen to me many years ago, lost all my gear and LP's. Our homeowner's insurance was fantastic, covered all of it once I explained the value of some of the LP's. Unfortunately, if the jackets were damaged, they declared them lost, and sent them to salvage, so I had to replace all of them over time ~2 years to even get close to what back I had. I just kept turning new batches in as claims and they'd cut me another check.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: SlushPuppy on 6 Sep 2021, 03:01 am
Oh man, sorry to hear this. My experience with things exposed to sewage is to consider it a total loss. The internal corrosion over time is inevitable.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Letitroll98 on 6 Sep 2021, 10:51 am
Terribly sorry to hear this, awful when bad things happen to good people.  Is this inventory or your personal system?  That would of course make a big difference in the insurance claim.  And yes, many homeowners policies don't include flooding unless you have flood insurance, mine doesn't.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: poseidonsvoice on 6 Sep 2021, 11:39 am
Sorry to hear about that Charles...I called up on a lot of folks once I heard the devastation that wrecked Long Island, Queens, and parts of NJ. Knowing that you are in the audio business makes it twice as bad! I would go with a home insurance claim (hopefully you have flood insurance) before trying to restore anything particularly if you don't have the proper test equipment, etc...

Best,
Anand.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: SteveFord on 6 Sep 2021, 12:24 pm
I'm pretty sure the insurance company will scrap it.
If they don't I would take it outside, clean it up (vinegar, baking soda, isoropyl alcohol), sell the chassis and hardware and junk the actual electronics.
Wear gloves, god knows what's in the sewage.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: jmolsberg on 6 Sep 2021, 02:23 pm
sorry charles
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: rollo on 6 Sep 2021, 03:26 pm
Terribly sorry to hear this, awful when bad things happen to good people.  Is this inventory or your personal system?  That would of course make a big difference in the insurance claim.  And yes, many homeowners policies don't include flooding unless you have flood insurance, mine doesn't.


   Personal system and a few pieces I sell. Lost Pipedreams, Rethm Saadhana and Snell speakers. Audio Note, AR, Alan Eaton, Carey Arion and Audio Hungary amps lost. All cables as well. Power conditioning pieces A real nosebleed Thanks for the kind words and support. Means a lot to me personally.
  Not a flood a sewage back up from City sewers. We have that coverage thank goodness.


charles
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Don_S on 6 Sep 2021, 03:43 pm
Charles,

Sorry for your troubles. Sad that some items like Pipedreams cannot be replaced. But at least you can go shopping for new toys.

I had most of my audio equipment stolen many years ago. After the initial shock I used it an opportunity to upgrade. Of course with sewage backup you have more to deal with than audio equipment. Make lemonade.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: opnly bafld on 6 Sep 2021, 03:53 pm
Have you checked with your insurance?
If flooding causes the sewage back up, it is considered flooding by insurance companies IME.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: rollo on 6 Sep 2021, 04:00 pm
  Yes we have sewer backup coverage.

charles
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: bacobits1 on 6 Sep 2021, 05:35 pm
Get yourself a private insurance adjuster to deal with the insurance company. I did when I was in MA. It was all fire/ water damage from the top floor. No fire damage just water. All that water up there has nowhere to go but down. I was on the first floor. Everything had to be stripped and dried out to the studs. Hotel living costs too. One month total fix, I think back then it came to a total of 80K. Liberty Mutual Insurance.
They negotiate the prices and the items that were lost. An adjuster would write it all off.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Wayner on 6 Sep 2021, 08:26 pm
I lost a fridge this weekend. I think I should be happy with that. Sorry for your loss.

Rusty made a good point. You may not have anything to lose, so why not wash/disinfect, let dry and see what happens. One might think that amps and pres might be OK. Things with motors and belts perhaps not.

Sunlight can also be a disinfectant, ozone (O3) too.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Gear Submerged in Sewage Back Up from Ida
Post by: Drrick007 on 30 Nov 2021, 10:38 pm
If you clean it and plan to use it make the final rinse with distilled water. There’s usually enough minerals in tap water to cause problems down the line.
If you scrap anything I’d be interested in the casings and chassis’s.

Good luck!

Peace,
Rick