[Russell Dawkins]

If it were me I would do nothing until I heard the Sonodyne SRP400. They are causing a massive buzz right now in pro monitoring circles and apparently possess all the characteristics you mention in spades. Don't let the apparently limited LF extension fool you, apparently they sound huge and, most importantly, the results translate to other speakers. $750 a pair. Sweetwater is sold out (no surprise) but more are on the way.

Googling will reveal raves in Gearslutz.com threads and elsewhere.

Here's a comparison between the SRP 400 and some other highly esteemed (and good) monitors, like PSI and Quested.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/925003-new-sonodyne-srp-line-vs-psi-vs-quested-vs-old-sonodyne-impressions.html

[Wind Chaser]

I'm curious what changes were made.

As far as the new BMR driver goes, a picture might help...



According to CA, the cone movement has been almost doubled, bigger magnet, new crossover and tuning.

[Wind Chaser]

If it were me I would do nothing until I heard the Sonodyne SRP400...

I was looking at those a few years ago. Active speakers are always a safe bet in the studio.

[Tubeburner]

These are amazing monitors from Bamberg Audio for $895 assembled or in kit form $596:

http://bambergaudio.com/products/series2/2tm-pv.php

http://bambergaudio.com/products/series2/2tm-ss_kit.php

Imaging and expansive sound from the crossover expert. IMO. 

[jackman]

What he read ...or what he failed to comprehend?

Hi WindPasser,
I believe this is the thread in which Dennis Murphy measured the speakers in question and was grilled by a bunch of clowns. Which one if these jokers is you (I assume you use another name on the site)?

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/1504045-cambridge-aero-2-bookshelf-speaker-4.html#/forumsite/3207/topics/1504045?page=4

If you like no high frequencies and extremely beamy speakers, I'm not surprised you recommend these.  Maybe they needed a couple thousand hours more "break in". 

[zieglj01]

I believe this is the thread in which Dennis Murphy measured the speakers in question and was grilled by a bunch of clowns. Which one if these jokers is you (I assume you use another name on the site)?

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-speakers/1504045-cambridge-aero-2-bookshelf-speaker-4.html#/forumsite/3207/topics/1504045?page=4

This is the measurements that Brent Butterworth took this year, of the tower and bookshelf speakers
http://hometheaterreview.com/images/Aero-FR.jpg

http://hometheaterreview.com/assets_c/2014/05/Cambridge%20Aero%20measurements2-12371.php

[notany]

Hi,
  I have no direct experience with these but if the LS50 is too big or too costly try the KEF X300A powered monitor.  John Darko likes them and there is a wireless version too.  http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/06/29/kef-x300a-powered-loudspeaker-review/ $699 right now in the US.  And now back to the BMR discussion.

[Russell Dawkins]

I was looking at those a few years ago. Active speakers are always a safe bet in the studio.

I guess you are referring to an earlier model of Sonodyne, since the SRP 400 has been available only for a few months as part of the highly regarded SRP line. Apparently these sound even better than the very respected SM 100AK. Sonodyne now is one of the few "cheaper" monitors which has stuck with class AB amplifiers. Most of the other economy monitors have gone class D.

[jackman]

This is the measurements that Brent Butterworth took this year, of the tower and bookshelf speakers
http://hometheaterreview.com/images/Aero-FR.jpg

http://hometheaterreview.com/assets_c/2014/05/Cambridge%20Aero%20measurements2-12371.php

Sorry, I trust Dennis Murphy more than those guys. From what I recall, these speakers have restricted highs and very limited upper dispersion (closed in with small sweet spot).  I'd love to hear a shoutout between the little Murphy modded Pioneer speajers and the Aero2s. It would be more fun if everyone was required to listen to both speakers off axis.

[zieglj01]

Sorry, I trust Dennis Murphy more than those guys. From what I recall, these speakers have restricted highs and very limited upper dispersion (closed in with small sweet spot).  I'd love to hear a shoutout between the little Murphy modded Pioneer speajers and the Aero2s. It would be more fun if everyone was required to listen to both speakers off axis.

Them measurements also show restricted highs - it was not put there as a contradiction.
He even noted it in his review about the soft and low level highs

I auditioned the proto type AA monitors - I know they have a good tweeter.

I already know from communicating with someone - about how the 2 speakers compared.
Now do you want to guess the results?

This would be the off-axis measurements from Dennis of the Aero
http://www.avsforum.com/photopost/data/2311750/2/2e/2e6b6a9b_Newvs50hoursoff-axis.jpeg

[srb]

Sonodyne now is one of the few "cheaper" monitors which has stuck with class AB amplifiers. Most of the other economy monitors have gone class D.

Cast aluminum enclosures too, which seem to work good for Genelec.

Steve

[Russell Dawkins]

Cast aluminum enclosures too, which seem to work good for Genelec.

Steve

True. It seems, though, that these trounce similarly priced alternatives, such as Genelec, KRK, JBL, Yamaha, Dynaudio, Alesis, M-Audio, Mackie and even the cheapest Geithain–all the popular contenders.

[Wind Chaser]

I guess you are referring to an earlier model of Sonodyne...

Yeah, that was about four, maybe five years ago. But they did have aluminum enclosures and there were some comparisons made to the Event Opals, which caught my attention.

[jackman]

Them measurements also show restricted highs - it was not put there as a contradiction.
He even noted it in his review about the soft and low level highs

I auditioned the proto type AA monitors - I know they have a good tweeter.

I already know from communicating with someone, about how the 2 speakers compared.
Now do you want to guess the results?

This would be the off-axis measurements from Dennis of the Aero
http://www.avsforum.com/photopost/data/2311750/2/2e/2e6b6a9b_Newvs50hoursoff-axis.jpeg

Maybe the Cambridge speakers needed a couple thousand more hours break in!  Measurements don't lie,, but I'm sure our audiophool friends can hear things modern science unable to measure or capture. 

[jackman]

True. It seems, though, that these trounce similarly priced alternatives, such as Genelec, KRK, JBL, Yamaha, Dynaudio, Alesis, M-Audio, Mackie and even the cheapest Geithain–all the popular contenders.

I'd love to hear these and possibly get w set for my office system. Very cool, aluminum enclosures intrigue me.

[Wind Chaser]

Maybe the Cambridge speakers needed a couple thousand more hours break in!  Measurements don't lie,, but I'm sure our audiophool friends can hear things modern science unable to measure or capture. 

So have you heard any of the Cambridge Speakers with BMR drivers?

[jackman]

So have you heard any of the Cambridge Speakers with BMR drivers?

Nope, but I don't fancy speakers with limited high end dispersion and FR.  If that's your preference, go crazy on the Cambridge speakers.   

[opnly bafld]

Nope, but I don't fancy speakers with limited high end dispersion and FR.  If that's your preference, go crazy on the Cambridge speakers.   

FWIW the tweeters* in your speakers are more limited with regard to dispersion and while the BMR on-axis is a bit ragged, design and power response may help smooth it out.

*the tweeters in your speakers are I believe $550/pair, whereas the Cambridge bookshelf speakers list at $700 to $1000 a pair.

[jtwrace]

If it were me I would do nothing until I heard the Sonodyne SRP400. They are causing a massive buzz right now in pro monitoring circles and apparently possess all the characteristics you mention in spades. Don't let the apparently limited LF extension fool you, apparently they sound huge and, most importantly, the results translate to other speakers. $750 a pair. Sweetwater is sold out (no surprise) but more are on the way.

Googling will reveal raves in Gearslutz.com threads and elsewhere.

Here's a comparison between the SRP 400 and some other highly esteemed (and good) monitors, like PSI and Quested.
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/925003-new-sonodyne-srp-line-vs-psi-vs-quested-vs-old-sonodyne-impressions.html

Those are very interesting.  I'd like to hear them.

[Letitroll98]

Sorry I wasn't on this thread sooner.  Needless to say, certain gentlemen will settle their language down, now.  Wind Chaser and jackman this means you in case I was too subtle.  Totally uncalled for.