a product comparison table

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Newk Yuler

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a product comparison table
« on: 30 Apr 2010, 02:54 pm »
Wondering if Steve would like to comment.  The Off Ramp is in line for async.

http://www.audiophilleo.com/comparison.aspx

PLMONROE

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Re: a product comparison table
« Reply #1 on: 1 May 2010, 03:51 am »
Looks as if about everything is compared except how they sound.  :lol:

Paul

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Re: a product comparison table
« Reply #2 on: 9 May 2010, 12:49 am »
Lots of misinformation there.  Jitter specs mean very little.

Looks like their product is a HiFace with a wall-wart.

Steve N.

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Re: a product comparison table
« Reply #3 on: 9 May 2010, 01:24 am »
Lots of misinformation there.  Jitter specs mean very little.

From the Empirical Audio website:
 
"Jitter is the number one problem limiting the performance of digital audio"
 
http://www.empiricalaudio.com/products/pace-car-reclocker
 
???
 
Steve

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Re: a product comparison table
« Reply #4 on: 9 May 2010, 10:07 am »

From the Empirical Audio website:
 
"Jitter is the number one problem limiting the performance of digital audio"
 
http://www.empiricalaudio.com/products/pace-car-reclocker
 
???

 
Steve


Which in no way contradicts the statement that "jitter specs mean very little". Note it doesn't say, "jitter means very little". The specs are the problem, as apparently there isn't a standard way to measure them and compare them, so you can have 2 different measurements from the same equipement and both are "ACCURATE"-just not done the same way.

audioengr

Re: a product comparison table
« Reply #5 on: 9 May 2010, 06:09 pm »

Which in no way contradicts the statement that "jitter specs mean very little". Note it doesn't say, "jitter means very little". The specs are the problem, as apparently there isn't a standard way to measure them and compare them, so you can have 2 different measurements from the same equipement and both are "ACCURATE"-just not done the same way.

thanks, couldn't have said it better myself. :wink:

I would only add that the spectrum of the jitter is probably more important than the magnitude, and there have been no studies to show which spectra are more objectionable for listeners.

Steve N.

PLMONROE

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Re: a product comparison table
« Reply #6 on: 9 May 2010, 06:19 pm »
Or as someone once paraphrased  "first there are lies, then damn lies, and finally there are specifications". :lol:

Paul