Check this out - sort of deceptive, isn't it?

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firedog

Check this out - sort of deceptive, isn't it?
« on: 28 Jul 2009, 06:25 pm »
See: http://www.pacificvalve.us/PVMedia.html

I read the page and watched the videos. Essentially, they are selling a media streamer that is a simple computer optimized for media. However, they basically come out and say that PC's, Hard Drives, USB, and wireless can't give low jitter results. I think it is deceptive salesmanship.

Note: I wrote the company and noted that there were audiophile solutions on the market using HD, USB, and wireless. Their response:

"Unless you are running Linux or some other Unix kernel, it would be very hard to optimize a MAC/PC solution as a music streamer.  The socket I/O, that would be needed to make a reasonable uninterpretable stream, just cannot be modified / changed (or buffer cache optimized for those PCs) . PC /MACs are really block i/o devices.

USB, unless you optimize the kernel and write your own driver, is hopelessly inadequate for a variety of reasons. It cannot give high end results.  Even the Absolute Sound in its latest issue supports this. "

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audioengr

Re: Check this out - sort of deceptive, isn't it?
« Reply #1 on: 29 Jul 2009, 12:02 am »
See: http://www.pacificvalve.us/PVMedia.html

I read the page and watched the videos. Essentially, they are selling a media streamer that is a simple computer optimized for media. However, they basically come out and say that PC's, Hard Drives, USB, and wireless can't give low jitter results. I think it is deceptive salesmanship.

Note: I wrote the company and noted that there were audiophile solutions on the market using HD, USB, and wireless. Their response:

"Unless you are running Linux or some other Unix kernel, it would be very hard to optimize a MAC/PC solution as a music streamer.  The socket I/O, that would be needed to make a reasonable uninterpretable stream, just cannot be modified / changed (or buffer cache optimized for those PCs) . PC /MACs are really block i/o devices.

USB, unless you optimize the kernel and write your own driver, is hopelessly inadequate for a variety of reasons. It cannot give high end results.  Even the Absolute Sound in its latest issue supports this. "

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Seems to me that Soundblade and Amarra have done it.

Steve N.

KingStyles

Re: Check this out - sort of deceptive, isn't it?
« Reply #2 on: 29 Jul 2009, 12:09 am »
Is there anything like soundblade or amarra for pc?

audioengr

Re: Check this out - sort of deceptive, isn't it?
« Reply #3 on: 29 Jul 2009, 01:20 am »
Is there anything like soundblade or amarra for pc?

Good question.

I think the right player software with WASAPI on Vista might come very close, particularly with 24-bit data files.  Maybe XXhighend or Cplay?

I have not had time to experiment with this yet.

Steve N.