The people speak out (or at least I hope they will - a bit)

gravy · « **Reply #120 on:** 8 Aug 2005, 03:36 pm »

Good points, Scott.

I'll take it one step further and ask - Will be there be any enhancements to the rs232 protocol in general with this upgrade?

Us home-automation guys would love to know!

brj · « **Reply #121 on:** 8 Aug 2005, 04:40 pm »

Quote from: ScottMayo

By the way, I can't recommend enough that you give away a Windows application that speaks serial to the SP1.7 and lets you specify settings;

Great idea, but please make it platform agnostic (Linux, Mac, etc.) and not just Windows specific.

ScottMayo · « **Reply #122 on:** 8 Aug 2005, 06:29 pm »

Quote from: brj

Quote from: ScottMayo
By the way, I can't recommend enough that you give away a Windows application that speaks serial to the SP1.7 and lets you specify settings;

Great idea, but please make it platform agnostic (Linux, Mac, etc.) and not just Windows specific.

Ewww. That means Java. Ick. Oh well, at least this is an application for which Java will, for once, not be too slow.

How about a deal: if Bryston publishes a complete list of serial commands, and adds commands for setting things like crossover frequencies, speaker size & distance, test mode and all the other goodies, then I'll write a full on, bebelled and whistley, freewareian Visual Basic app that does all the good things. It's more or less what I'm doing anyway. Someone else can port it to Java.

Adz523 · « **Reply #123 on:** 8 Aug 2005, 11:48 pm »

Quote from: nicolasb

While a more powerful DSP ought not to make any difference to simple operations like decoding Dolby Digital, in practice it often does, not so much because the DSP is more powerful, but simply because it is newer and better supported. The software for things like decoding DD is almost never written by the manufacturers of the final device. Instead it uses standard libraries published by the manufacturers of the DSP. Older DSPs often have more bugs in the standard code libraries, which can't be fixed because ...

James,
Based on what Nicholasb said, can you guys tell if the more powerful DSP is enhancing the surrounds?

James Tanner · « **Reply #124 on:** 9 Aug 2005, 01:58 pm »

Hi adz,

The one aspect of the SP1.7 that most people commented to us was how well the surrounds supported the fronts. At our demos there was a sense that you could walk right into the sound stage as if it occupied a 3-dimensional space.

I would say that the new DSP seems to do this as well but I have not had time to directly compare the surrounds.

james

Jason Nugent · « **Reply #125 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 12:33 pm »

Just a comment on this. I'm about to pull the trigger and order an SP1.7 for the new room I'm building (already have the amps now whoop!). Should I wait a bit until the upgrade is available?

James Tanner · « **Reply #126 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 12:38 pm »

Hi,

We are still working on software so it may be a while yet.
The SP1.7 will be able to be upgraded to the new hardware and software when it is available.

james

nicolasb · « **Reply #127 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 12:42 pm »

James,

Do we know what the cost of the upgrade will be yet? And will the price of a new SP1.7 (with the new DSP) be higher than it is now?

James Tanner · « **Reply #128 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 01:05 pm »

HI,

Do not know exactly at this point but assume the price upgrade will be similar to the current upgrade price from SP1 to SP1.7.
Have not assessed the retail price at this point.

james

Adz523 · « **Reply #129 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 01:21 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner

HI,

Do not know exactly at this point but assume the price upgrade will be similar to the current upgrade price from SP1 to SP1.7.
Have not assessed the retail price at this point.

james

James,

Would you have a conservative update to the timeframe of the roll-out? Perhaps a big annoucement to coincide with CES (Las Vegas) in January 2006?

Also, what is the hardware part of the upgrade -- I thought it was just software?

James Tanner · « **Reply #130 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 01:28 pm »

HI,

Yes I would hope by vegas it would be available.
There is a new Digital board.

james

Adz523 · « **Reply #131 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 02:31 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner

HI,

Yes I would hope by vegas it would be available.
There is a new Digital board.

james

Excuse my lack of knowledge, but is that the TI DSP or something else?

James Tanner · « **Reply #132 on:** 25 Aug 2005, 03:57 pm »

Yes T1

james

nicolasb · « **Reply #133 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 10:02 am »

Quote from: James Tanner

HI,

Do not know exactly at this point but assume the price upgrade will be similar to the current upgrade price from SP1 to SP1.7.
Have not assessed the retail price at this point.

james

(wince)

So (from http://www.bryston.ca/sp17memo.html ) that's roughly $1500 (US) or $1800 (Canadian)?

Did you ever announce firmly whether overseas distributors (e.g PMC) will able to do the upgrade themselves or if an SP1.7 will have to be shipped to Canada and back for the upgrade?

Oh, and another question, actually - what's on the "digital board" apart from the DSP chip? Will you be changing the DACs, for example?

ScottMayo · « **Reply #134 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 02:01 pm »

Quote from: nicolasb

(wince)

So (from http://www.bryston.ca/sp17memo.html ) that's roughly $1500 (US) or $1800 (Canadian)?

Surely not? The SP1 to 1.7 was a big upgrade and touched a lot of parts. Isn't this one a great deal smaller?

James Tanner · « **Reply #135 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 02:16 pm »

It involves a new digital board so hopefully we can keep the costs down from the original upgrade price which involved a backboard and faceplate as well..
As I said it really is much to early to give everyone a price at this point.

james

Levi · « **Reply #136 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 07:43 pm »

Hello James,

Please try to keep the cost down for the DSP upgrade but don't cut corners

. If you can breakdown the upgrade and have different price points. We (current SP1.7 owners) already paid the price of admission.

I am interested in performance rather than cosmetic changes. Then we have a win, win situation.
Levi

James Tanner · « **Reply #137 on:** 26 Aug 2005, 08:42 pm »

All your points are well taken.

james

gaderson · « **Reply #138 on:** 27 Aug 2005, 02:57 am »

Will there be a process for a 'total' upgrade from an SP1? I was holding off on upgrading my SP1, but, will likey get ready for the .7 upgrade and then wait for the next.

James Tanner · « **Reply #139 on:** 27 Aug 2005, 11:35 am »

Hi gaderson,

I think we will be able to do the SP1 to the new SP but have no idea on price yet.

james

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