The New Karen Carpenter

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The New Karen Carpenter
« on: 28 Aug 2019, 04:56 am »

Ok, I'm not sure this is real jazz to some of you.........perhaps it would be better described as pop-jazz, or easy listening.

Question: Who was the most famous jazz singer of all time? - The Carpenters! They were not labeled as such, but they were a jazz band that made it into the pop charts, that's what made them so special.

Check out Karen Carpenter - My Body Keeps Changing My Mind
https://youtu.be/SpLhEME3z8U

Then listen to the "new" Karen Carpenter - Rumer Dangerous [Official Video]
https://youtu.be/B9EWeqo0KfM

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« Reply #1 on: 28 Aug 2019, 01:54 pm »
  THANK YOU for this post. Hearing Karen again brought tears to my eyes and then a big smile. Thanks again.


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Re: The New Karen Carpenter
« Reply #2 on: 28 Aug 2019, 02:24 pm »
Question: Who was the most famous jazz singer of all time? - The Carpenters! They were not labeled as such, but they were a jazz band that made it into the pop charts, that's what made them so special.
Do you mean say like Captain and Tenille and her rich shining midrange voice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QNEf9oGw8o
« Last Edit: 28 Aug 2019, 06:55 pm by FullRangeMan »

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Re: The New Karen Carpenter
« Reply #3 on: 28 Aug 2019, 02:40 pm »
Hey ExJL, welcome to AudioCircle!

Imo, both of those tracks are disco, not jazz. But these days 'jazz' is a catch all for anything not quite mainstream. Rumer's voice is very beautiful by modern standards. Thanks for the tip, I'll check out her other stuff. If you like her, check out Katherine McPhee's albums, similar top notch vocals as Rumer, maybe a tad more 'jazzy' (in the modern meaning of the word.) Traditional female jazz singers from the jazz era definitely worth checking out too. Billie Holiday, June Christy, Sarah Vaughan, etc.

I think Bing Crosby was the most famous jazz singer of all time. He sang in the 30s, 40s and 50s when jazz was pop music. He was also a famous movie star.
Frank Sinatra was also more famous than Carpenters by singing real jazz arrangements in 40s, 50s and 60s, even after rock took over.

I do remember that Karen Carpenter was a drummer first and she didn't really want to sing but the money pressure pushed her into it. She looks stoned in that dancing video, making the song title seem very ironic. Even 30 years later they were still trying to appeal to the Bing Crosby "song and dance" fans.

Thanks for the post! Very thought provoking!

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Re: The New Karen Carpenter
« Reply #4 on: 28 Aug 2019, 02:45 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47v7yYRfjA

Seems she liked Buddy Rich.  8)

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Re: The New Karen Carpenter
« Reply #5 on: 29 Aug 2019, 03:49 pm »
Thanks for the feedback guys, I agree.

richidoo, you are right, the two songs I posted are disco. I just thought is was uncanny how similar the two songs sounded. That's the only disco song Rumer has though, the rest is Jazz.

Elton John said Rumer is in league with Adele and Amy Winehouse. When burt bacharach heard Rumer's first album, he invited her to his home to sing for him. In fact, Rumer married burt bacharach's producer. They had a child a couple years ago and now live in Atlanta Ga, U.S.A. She's recording in Nashville now.

Can't wait for a new album and hope she comes to my town, I would like to see her live.

Most of the songs from Rumer on Youtube seem to be CD quality only. However, there are a couple of hi res songs I have found:
https://youtu.be/CSAV2LnT1ro

https://youtu.be/s9O4Ep9ESUI

The rest is just CD quality, but this one is beautiful with the live orchestra, it made me cry:
https://youtu.be/c75TZAsc11o

A retro one, upbeat, hauntingly karen Carpenterish:
https://youtu.be/D-fRhBhew34

Do you think this one has a hint of Linda Ronstadt?
https://youtu.be/rXlC4RxOG-0

I hope this woman becomes famous, I want more songs and to hear her live!

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Re: The New Karen Carpenter
« Reply #6 on: 29 Aug 2019, 04:35 pm »
Beautiful voice, wonderful singer - definitely a cut above just about everyone out there, however....


like just about everything today.... it's all a bit too slick and polished.... "modern." There seems to be a lack of a slight rawness in today's performances.


I'd rather hear the more dynamic Dionne (and the instrumental performance) of the original. Karen had more variety in her phrasing.


For new singers, Melody Gardot is a bit more unique.


Carry on. Enjoy or love whatever you like......