Thanks. I have gone back and read your posts and others and my conclusion is- I need to have patience with these speakers. Clayton warned me but that is not my strength! I took your suggestion and moved te speakers out 3ft from the back of the wall to the face of the speaker. I have a coffered ceiling, 30 degrees up then flat, then 30 degrees down( flattened cathedral). The speakers are moved to just under where the ceiling goes flat. When I walk in and out of the sound stage the musical sound I want is centered at the 30-degree angle very high up, it sounds wonderful but I have to look up and I have to be standing to get at that sound. I need to get the sound stage/image moved down?
I am very satisfied with the complexity of the sound. "Never heard that before" moments are frequent with these speakers with the music I am very familiar with. I am very excited to hear songs over and over as these things unfold there potential. img]https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=202308[/img]