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Industry Circles => GR Research => Topic started by: vfrpilot on 16 Jan 2003, 10:07 pm
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I have the Paradox 1's with the new woofer and xover treatment. I am curious if anyone has upgraded to the Sonicaps and could comment on the changes it brought. I was considering using Auricaps but these are cost prohibitive in the large sizes used in the paradox. ICW (clarity) caps are also an option. Anyone here these yet?
Thanks,
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when my P3s were being built, Danny recommended the Auricaps over the Sonicaps. Cost for the Auricaps was @32.00 shipped from GRR.
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Are these the same Auricaps that VMPS raves about but charges approx $500 for the upgrade? I know the crossovers are totally different, I'm just wondering if it's the same quality of cap.
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Hey Eric the Red,
I'm in Eugene as well, we corresponded about testing our your Audiomat arpege with my paradox's. I have the Unison Research Unico now, so I would be curious about how these compare.
On to the thread... It seems from my reading that the Paradox 3's only have a couple of caps in the xover. My P1's have around 3-4 caps of high value (6-20uf) in each speaker. If they sold caps in these high values I think they would be in the $20 range per cap.
Some people who deal with DIYcable.com have been comparing the Clarity caps which they sell to the Auricaps. I haven't heard anyone say they are as good, but close. Probably a bit more analytical is what I seem to remember.
Let me pull out the schematic for the P1's. I won't give away the values but I will price out what the cap upgrade would cost. This would give a good starting point for comparing the value of them vs. Clarity vs. Sonicaps.
Stay tuned.
Vfrpilot
Eugene,Or
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No wonder I'm confused about you guys! Both in Eugene OR, one rides a VTR and one rides a VFR. (Did I get that right?)
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Your email address got deleted-somebody from AC who lives in Salem wants to hear my P3's with my amp and his so maybe he and I could drag our amps over to your house after he listens to my rig one of these weekends :?: I want to hear the Unico...
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I want a review of those amps, guys - let's get it done! :)
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when my P3s were being built, Danny recommended the Auricaps over the Sonicaps. Cost for the Auricaps was @32.00 shipped from GRR.
I thick Eric got the cap named transposed.
I recommend the Sonicaps over the Auricaps.
I liked the Sonicaps so well that I became a distributor.
The Paradox-1 has three caps in each speaker. Changing all of them to Sonicaps will cost $82.00
The Clarity caps are a no frills poly cap that could be considered a marginal step up from a Solen poly cap and I believe they are in that price range.
I could not see comparing them to an Auricap and can not even see them being compared to a Sonicap.
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Thanks for clearing that up Danny. I appreciate it. I am glad you have had a chance to compare the Sonicaps with the Auricaps. I feel better. Saving money and getting better sound is something I can always get behind. :)
JohnR. Yes I live in eugene and ride a VFR (though it is a pretty old one and not that much riding gets done when I leave for work and it is 29-30deg).
Eric. Sounds good. I am always up for trying new equipment. I have purchased far to many components without listening to them in my system. It must end here and now! :?
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PS. JohnR. I don't know if you remember but the paradox's that I have are the ones that you built. Nice job by the way.
That should not really comes as a surprise to board members here since I think that most of audiophiles in the US have at least one pair of speakers you have previously owned. Am I right? :)
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I think my comments here are fair.
I must concur with Danny's enthusiasm about the SonicCap. They are darn good. I did't think it was possible for a metallized prop capacitor to significantly outperform the PPMF, but the SonicCap does. It is dead quiet and all of the details are present. I think Danny is wise to make an investment in the SonicCap.
I will also add that folks make much adieu' over cables, but not so much over capacitors. I believe these folks would understand the reality better if they knew how a capacitor was constructed.
Inside of an axial capacitor there are 2 layers of foil wrapped tighly together, but offset. These 2 layers are insulated from each other, and offset lengthwise. Each end is attached to an end spray and the lead is dipped/stuck into this end spray.
There are 2 things that I would like to convey.
1. The preparation of the FOIL is crucial.
2. There is 126' of foil in a theoretically correct 4.7uf capacitor. Folks who worry about 8' of speaker cable would be much smarter to worry about the foil in their capacitors.
Dave