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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => Owner's Circles => Selah Audio Owners => Topic started by: gme109 on 28 Jul 2004, 03:26 am
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Ok I've lived with the Excelarray's for over a year now and I've had time to tweak the room and fine-tune the cabling. Not to mention finding out that I had three bad drivers, two in the right speaker and one in the left. Rick has replaced the bad drivers and they have all broken-in by now. That alone is cause for a new review, as I’ve never really heard the full potential of Excelarray’s until just recently.
Associated equipment:
Cd player: Accuphase 65V using the digital volume control.
Amp: Spectron Musician II.
Power cords: Virtual Dynamics Nite on CD player and Audition on amp.
Interconnects & Speaker cable: Crystal Clear Audio reference.
Room Treatments: Combination of 8th Nerve, DYI Jon Rish bass traps and DYI Owens Corning 703 panels.
Tweaks: Shakti stone on amp and cd player. ERS sheets underneath cd player and amp. DH cones used for isolation under both components.
I’ll cut to the chase. To say that I’m happy with these speakers is an understatement. After 20 plus years as an obsessive over the top audiophile, I feel like I’ve found the Holy Grail of speakers. Some will probably dismiss my ranting as that of a proud owner of a rather large speaker trying to boost his ego. Others who’ve heard Rick’s designs, especially the Excelarray’s, Incredarray’s and the Omegarray’s will know better. Within their frequency response, they are one of the best, if not the best speaker I’ve ever heard. The only thing I’ve heard some speakers do better is play lower. One thing you get with linearray’s is, realistic soundstage height, increased dynamics, larger sweet spot and less bass interaction with the room. The Excelarray’s do all that and so much more. The Excelarray’s take the linearray formula and use some of the best drivers in the world. I’ve heard some people say that using top of the line drivers in a linearray is over kill and brings nothing more to the table in terms of sound quality. The theory being that since you are using multiple drivers you are never really stressing any one driver out all that much and can get by with drivers of lesser quality. Since when has using better parts or drivers not made a sonic difference? It may not be something that can be measured like distortion or frequency response but better driver’s equal higher resolution, greater transparency and truer to life timbre. The Ecelarrary’s are masterful at revealing subtle differences in tonal shadings. This fills the music with more emotional content and communicates the musical message very effectively. Many of times I’ve been moved to tears while listening to music that is well recorded. Transparency is another area that the Excelarray’s excel in. Easily on par with many of the electrostatic speakers I’ve heard. There are very few dynamic speakers capable of this level of transparency. Some that come to mind are the Joseph Audio Pearls and the Avalon Eidolons. Detail is also extremely abundant but without being etched or unnatural sounding. And I’m talking about microscopic detail; everything in the recording is passed along. The only other speaker I heard that revealed this kind of detail was a pair of Quads. Speaking of Quads, they are one of the most coherent loudspeakers on the planet bar none! Before I had replaced the three bad drivers in the Excelarray’s I thought the Quads had much better coherence. Now I would say the Excelarray’s are as close as I’ve heard any speaker get to the coherence of the Quads. Rick really nailed it when he blended the Newform ribbon with the six Seas Excel drivers; the Excelarray’s are seamless! One area that the Quad’s are not very good in is macro dynamics. As expected using six 7” Seas Excel drivers per side yields tremendous macro dynamics. Probably not on par with some 100 db horn systems but as good as any dynamic speaker I’ve heard. Except maybe Rick’s new Incredarray’s which uses 10 Seas Excel W15 and is more efficient. Another important quality of a speaker that allows you to suspend your disbelief is micro dynamics. Micro dynamics breathes life into the recording and allows the ebb and flow of the music to come through. The Excelarray’s reveal the subtlest chance in volume. This also makes the Excelarray’s great for listening at low levels. I’ve heard a lot of very good speakers that just don’t seem to come alive until the volume is cranked up. Ok, by now I’m sure a lot of you are saying this guy must be delusional to be carrying on like this about a $6,000 loudspeaker. Well guess what, I’m not though yet! The soundstage on the Excelarray’s is deep, wide, layered and rock solid. I’m going to have to go back to the Quads that I once heard to tell you about the best imaging speaker I’ve ever heard. The Quads had the help of a Tact room correction device so the compassion is not really fair. The soundstage depth of the Quads / Tact system was easily 30’ to 40’ deep. Never heard a soundstage with that kind of depth from any speaker. The closest I’ve heard a speaker come was a pair of Avalon Eidolons, Kharma 1.0’s and the Excelarray’s after replacing the bad drivers.
After a little more listening I realized that I left out a few more important areas that I feel the Excelarray’s really shine in, pace and rhythm, bass impact & control, focus, neutrality and transient response. Listening to some Pat Metheny really had me tapping my feet and playing the air drums. The transient speed and lack of bass bloat of the Excelarray’s really infused the music with energy and excitement. Also the stand up bass filled the room with articulate and well-controlled bass, which had all the impact of a live performance. One other very important thing about the Excelarray’s that really helps them portray the realism of a live performance is neutrality. This serves the music well but leaves no room for bad recording to hide. This is not to say that any recordings that are less then perfect will sound lousy. But with the lack of any added warmness or distortion the Excelarray’s will not help with making your crappy rock cd’s sound any better. They will reveal them for what they are, lousy recordings. On truly great recordings though, you are left submerged in the music.
I would like to end this review by saying that the Excelarray’s have the uncanny ability to blend all of its strengths into a very organic musical experience, one capable of transporting me into the musical event. I also want to thank Rick Craig for bringing to market a speaker of this caliber priced within the reach of most audiophiles. :D
http://www.selahaudio.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/excelarray1.jpg
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Gary,
Does Rick Craig still sell the Exclearray? I was looking for it on his site a few weeks ago and didn't see it. I still want to hear them one of these days.
Mike
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Gary,
Does Rick Craig still sell the Exclearray? I was looking for it on his site a few weeks ago and didn't see it. I still want to hear them one of these days.
Mike
I believe it's only available in a kit, but you would have to ask Rick about that. If it's not available as a fully assembled speaker you might have to twist his arm a little. :P
Gary
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Gary,
Kits are good, I like building things, plus I'm a cheap bastard. :)
Now if Tyson doesn't doesn't nuke this post for not being a review - are you willing to have a couple of us over to hear these? I know Tyson thought highly of them and I'm pretty sure Jerry would like to hear them as well. You don't have to supply BBQ. :D
Mike
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I only heard them back when they had the bad drivers, and even then they were impressive. I'm up for another listen :-)
I think this "should" be in the review section, it certainly qualities....
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Hey guys,
I'd be up for having a listening session at my place. I was thinking about this Sat. but I forgot I have a wedding to go to. It doesn't look like the following week is going to work either. I would have time during the week in the evenings. This Thurs. or Fri. or even next week in the evenings.
Gary
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I have to agree with Gary's review. I think there are 2 people who have heard Gary's Excelarray's and mine, at their best. Gary had one guy a month back hear them, that flew in from out of town on business and he's going to be building a pair.
All the people who have heard mine, had either heard them with them pushed back against the wall or with that big Entertainment Center I had or with the Coffee Table and Ottoman in front of the speakers. Also, I have a very wide room and I switched the speakers, so that the ribbons are on the inside. That made a major improvement. I'm also running my speakers with a SET amp and that made a huge improvement, ot to mention Vinyl.
I personally believe that the guys who go over the Gary's now, will be speechless and wonder how this speaker is sounding better than $100K plus speakers.
Have a great day,
Brad
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I read some posts and saw some pics of this array but where can you get the kit?
-Phil
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Hi Phil,
You can get the Kit from Rick Craig at Selahaudio.
I would highly advise someone to hear it first, as it could be their last speaker system they will ever own. :-)
At least that's the way I feel about these speakers.
Brad
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From Rick's old web site I recall reading that the excelarray was only available as a finished set.
If this has changed I'm also interested in learning about the kit.
Thanks
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Forgot to post a picture of my Excelarray's. Here they are in my old listening room. This picture is on Rick's site in the gallery section.
http://www.selahaudio.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/excelarray1.jpg
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From Rick's old web site I recall reading that the excelarray was only available as a finished set.
If this has changed I'm also interested in learning about the kit.
Thanks
I believe Rick has taken them off as a finished set, however I still believe they are available as a kit. If they're not, I know some people who have been saving money, so that they can build it and they won't be too happy. I couldn't think of any reason that Rick wouldn't offer it as a kit anymore.
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I think Rick just hasn't gotten around to finish updating his new web site layout yet.
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I didn't see them on Rick's web site. What Sea's drivers do they use and what Newform tweeter...the R45's? Does anyone have box drawings and x-over schematics for the true DIY'er?
I sent and Email to Rick asking for these things but if this is such a good design why not make the information available to anyone who might attempt it even if you don't offer the kit.
-Phil
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Phil,
Do a search for Excelarray and you should be able to find the details. There have been several reviews and threads about them.
My recollection is that it uses 6 Seas Excel W18EX woofers and the Newform R45 ribbons. It is one of the most beautiful looking speakers and that's just from looking at pictures of Brad's system.
Don't expect Rick to offer this design for free. Some people who have listened to them consider the cost a bargain.
Al
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Gary,
All I what to know is how long before I can hear some vinyl
on your Excelarray's :wink:
I would luv to have another listen.
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Phil,
Do a search for Excelarray and you should be able to find the details. There have been several reviews and threads about them.
My recollection is that it uses 6 Seas Excel W18EX woofers and the Newform R45 ribbons. It is one of the most beautiful looking speakers and that's just from looking at pictures of Brad's system.
Don't expect Rick to offer this design for free. Some people who have listened to them consider the cost a bargain.
Al
Hi Phil,
You are right about the drivers.
The first comment I hear from people who come to hear my system, is that they look so much better in person. So, if you like the looks from the pictures, you'd love them in person.
Brad
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Gary,
All I what to know is how long before I can hear some vinyl
on your Excelarray's :wink:
I would luv to have another listen.
I've been trying to talk Gary into Vinyl for a long time now. For now you'd have to travel to North Carolina to hear the Excelarray's with Vinyl. My Vinyl collection is building and has now topped 1,500 LP's.
Brad
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Gary,
All I what to know is how long before I can hear some vinyl
on your Excelarray's :wink:
I would luv to have another listen.
Hi Pete,
Your listening room looks pretty nice. I'd love to have a vinyl set up some day. Until then, I almost don't want to hear any cd/vinyl comparisons, it makes it too hard to listen to digital. :(
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Hi Gary,
What was wrong with the 3 drivers and how did you realize they were faulty?
Just curious as my Tyler Linbrook speakers use similar drivers.
Guan
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Hi Gary,
What was wrong with the 3 drivers and how did you realize they were faulty?
Just curious as my Tyler Linbrook speakers use similar drivers.
Guan
There was an intermittent distortion that only showed up on certain material and wasn't excursion related. It was very unusual and the only Seas woofers that I've ever had exhibit a problem.
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Gary,
Does Rick Craig still sell the Exclearray? I was looking for it on his site a few weeks ago and didn't see it. I still want to hear them one of these days.
Mike
The Excelarray is only available as a kit. The crossovers are assembled and the cabinet plans plus woofers are included. The ribbons are purchased directly from Newform.
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Thanks for the info Rick, most appreciated.
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Rick,
How much for the kit with standard parts? and how much with upgraded parts?
Thanks
EP
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I didn't see them on Rick's web site. What Sea's drivers do they use and what Newform tweeter...the R45's? Does anyone have box drawings and x-over schematics for the true DIY'er?
I sent and Email to Rick asking for these things but if this is such a good design why not make the information available to anyone who might attempt it even if you don't offer the kit.
-Phil
The woofers are Seas W18E001's and the ribbon is the Newform R45.
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Rick,
How much for the kit with standard parts? and how much with upgraded parts?
Thanks
EP
I would be glad to quote prices but for $3,800 I can provide a kit with upgraded parts that will be better than the Excelarray. Six of the same woofers per side and six Fountek ribbon tweeters. And that includes integral powered 12" subwoofers :D
Rick
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I'm puzzled by the fact that only one poster has asked about the 3 bad drivers.
I'm not a sound engineer. I don't have a lot of testing equipment at home. The only way I might realize if I also had 3 bad drivers is if the sound of my speakers suddenly changed for the worse.
I'm not sure I would ever really know if the speakers CAME with bad drivers. How could anyone fiigure this out without doing technical-type testing???
Also, if I was able to somehow find out that a couple of drivers in a line array were bad, doing something about it could be a problem. These speakers are BIG and shipping speakers is always a risk.
How many line arrays have experienced this type of problem?
This seems like a very significant quality control issue to me.
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These are kits. You put the speaker together yourself. Quality control problems with the drivers seem to me to be an issue with Seas, not Rick. And to send it back, you send back the driver, not the whole speaker :P
There are both advantages and drawbacks to kit building. If the speaker were a prebuilt preassembled option, I'm sure Rick would check each driver to see that they were working before shipping it out. I'm not sure how it would be different if you had bought the seas driver from madisound vs. buying it from Rick.
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Hi Gary,
What was wrong with the 3 drivers and how did you realize they were faulty?
Just curious as my Tyler Linbrook speakers use similar drivers.
Guan
Hi Guan,
As Rick explained, it was an intermittent distortion that only showed up on certain frequencies. I actually heard the problem many months ago and thought it was the over head track lighting that was making the buzzing sound. It wasn't until I happened to be walking right by the speaker when the distortion was happening, that I discovered the problem. I then replayed that portion of the track over and over again, putting my ear up to every driver. It was very obvious that the drivers were not up to spec when I replaced them. Although everything sounded pretty good before, afterwards the sound improved dramatically.
I'm still not sure how or why the drivers failed. It is a little unsettling to have 25% of your speakers drivers fail. This is of course no reflection on Rick but seems to be a quality control problem with Seas. I didn't have to send the speakers back to Rick, just the drivers. Replacing each driver took all of maybe 5 minutes.
Gary
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Rick,
How much for the kit with standard parts? and how much with upgraded parts?
Thanks
EP
I would be glad to quote prices but for $3,800 I can provide a kit with upgraded parts that will be better than the Excelarray. Six of the same woofers per side and six Fountek ribbon tweeters. And that includes integral powered 12" subwoofers :D
Rick
Rick,
If I were you, I'd refrain from saying that the Incredarray is better than the Excelarray, until you can do a side by side listening comparison. According to my discussion with some other speaker builders, they prefer the sound of the Newform ribbons sound to the Fountek ribbons. Even though the Fountek play higher in frequency, doesn't mean that they sound better. I'll have a chance shortly to hear the Incredarray's, so I'll be able to get a better idea of how they sound, however that will be in a different room with all SS equipment.
The Incredarray owner came to hear my system several weeks ago and I believe he was mighty impressed with how they sounded.
Have a great day,
Brad
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I'm puzzled by the fact that only one poster has asked about the 3 bad drivers.
I'm not a sound engineer. I don't have a lot of testing equipment at home. The only way I might realize if I also had 3 bad drivers is if the sound of my speakers suddenly changed for the worse.
I'm not sure I would ever really know if the speakers CAME with bad drivers. How could anyone fiigure this out without doing technical-type testing???
Also, if I was able to somehow find out that a couple of drivers in a line ar ...
I test all array drivers that are shipped in both assembled speakers and kits. If there's a defective driver the owner can easily remove it and ship it back as Gary did. If they cannot do that then I do offer on-site service since as you note it would be cumbersome to ship them back for repair.
The problem with these woofers did not show up in the response or impedance tests. I had suspected that the voice coil was rubbing but a physical check did not reveal any problem with that. Even when I shipped them back the Seas representative questioned whether they were truly defective because they could not find anything out-of-spec with their tests. They finally were able to duplicate the problem with high-level frequency sweeps but even then the distortion was very intermittent. I had to listen to several different tracks of music before I found the problem.
As I stated here in my other post this was a very unusual problem and I've adjusted my test procedure to add other steps in the quality control process. I'll also add that these are the only drivers that have needed to be replaced in all of the line arrays that I've sold using the Seas woofers.
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I'll also add that these are the only drivers that have needed to be replaced in all of the line arrays that I've sold using the Seas woofers. ...
I believe you Rick. I just don't understand how these kind of things always seem to happen to me? If I had a buck for every time someone told me..." This is the first time we've heard of this problem" I'd have half the money I need to buy the subwoofer that I'm looking at. I must have some bad audiophile karma to work off. Perhaps I was abusive to my electronics in my previous life time. :evil:
Gary
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Is there a simple test I can run to see if my Seas W18E001's have this same defect?
Thanks,
Al
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Is there a simple test I can run to see if my Seas W18E001's have this same defect?
Thanks,
Al
It's only present on certain material. If you haven't noticed any obvious distortion then there's no need to worry.
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Rick,
If I were you, I'd refrain from saying that the Incredarray is better than the Excelarray, until you can do a side by side listening comparison. According to my discussion with some other speaker builders, they prefer the sound of the Newform ribbons sound to the Fountek ribbons. Even though the Fountek play higher in frequency, doesn't mean that they sound better. I'll have a chance shortly to hear the Incredarray's, so I'll be able to get a better idea of how they sound, however that will be in a ...
Brad,
Having designed both speakers I know better than anyone what their strengths and weaknesses are. For several reasons the Incredarray is a better speaker. If it wasn't I wouldn't be selling it.
You need to keep an open mind before you make a decision about which one you prefer. I would like to know who has compared the Newform vs. the Fountek in an array design and why they feel the Newform is superior.
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Brad,
Having designed both speakers I know better than anyone what their strengths and weaknesses are. For several reasons the Incredarray is a better speaker. If it wasn't I wouldn't be selling it.
You need to keep an open mind before you make a decision about which one you prefer. I would like to know who has compared the Newform vs. the Fountek in an array design and why they feel the Newform is superior.
Hi Rick,
Being the designer of both speakers, I'm sure you're aware of the overall performance differences between the two. Like frequency response and efficiency. However you've never lived for any extended length of time with either of these speakers, nor done a side by side comparison. I think what Brad was trying to say is, there may be subtle differences between the two that would lead someone to prefer the Excelarray's over the Incredarray.
Gary
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Gosh folks, if the man says the new speaker is better, it's BETTER!
Haven't heard the Fountek but the Newform ribbon is very good up to 18kHz where it mass limits. It's single-ended, which is not ideal if you plan to use it down to its 1100Hz cutoff. It lacks a little sparkle. An array of Founteks should give you about 1/2 octave more treble extension and maybe 4 kHz of LF extension, which is very good for that type of planar driver.
Of course, there's always the Neo 8....
(one of my favorites...remember I didn't say this and I sure as heck didn't do it...)
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Rick,
How much for the kit with standard parts? and how much with upgraded parts?
Thanks
EP
I would be glad to quote prices but for $3,800 I can provide a kit with upgraded parts that will be better than the Excelarray. Six of the same woofers per side and six Fountek ribbon tweeters. And that includes integral powered 12" subwoofers :D
Rick
So, are you saying that the Excelarray kit is $3800, not including the ribbons?
Thanks for the clarification.
EP
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Gosh folks, if the man says the new speaker is better, it's BETTER!
Haven't heard the Fountek but the Newform ribbon is very good up to 18kHz where it mass limits. It's single-ended, which is not ideal if you plan to use it down to its 1100Hz cutoff.
(one of my favorites...remember I didn't say this and I sure as heck didn't do it...)
I'm not sure what you mean by single ended. If you're meaning 1st order, the ribbon is using a 2nd order.
Also, I wish I had a dollar for everyone who pushing the benefits of how high a frequency a driver will go. Of all the times I've put in the Rives CD with frequencies above 16kHz, only 2 people I know of have heard the 20kHz test tone and the others had blank stares. Besides, when I had the Tact RCS 2.2X, it measured like 2 to 3 db down at 20kHZ. Not only that, but every Tact stock correction, which comes with the unit, rolls off the high at 20kHz at about 5db or more. If you go on the Tact forum and ask anyone if they run the curve flat at 20kHz, I doubt you'd get any who do this.
Have a great day,
Brad
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Brad,
Having designed both speakers I know better than anyone what their strengths and weaknesses are. For several reasons the Incredarray is a better speaker. If it wasn't I wouldn't be selling it.
You need to keep an open mind before you make a decision about which one you prefer. I would like to know who has compared the Newform vs. the Fountek in an array design and why they feel the Newform is superior.
Rick,
I'm not saying which one I prefer. That's not what I took offense to. It was your statement of saying which one was better. You can't make that statement, unless you played them side by side, in the same room, with the same equipment.
Even though you designed them, you only listened to the Incredarray for a few hours and mine for a little longer than that. Also, when you listened to mine back a few years ago, they had inferior components running the, a big Entertainment Center between them, speakers were back up against the wall, just to name a few. Now they sound light years ahead of what they did.
Even if you did a side by side for days on end, you're opinion is your opinion and you should state it as so.
As far as revealing the builders who preferred the Newform Ribbons, I promised them that I wouldn't post who they were.
Have a great day,
Brad
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...Of course, there's always the Neo 8....
(one of my favorites...remember I didn't say this and I sure as heck didn't do it...)
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
doug s.
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I'm not saying which one I prefer. That's not what I took offense to. It was your statement of saying which one was better. You can't make that statement, unless you played them side by side, in the same room, with the same equipment... Even though you designed them...
...Also, I wish I had a dollar for everyone who pushing the benefits of how high a frequency a driver will go. Of all the times I've put in the Rives CD with frequencies above 16kHz, only 2 people I know of have heard the 20kHz test tone and the others had blank stares. Besides, when I had the Tact RCS 2.2X, it measured like 2 to 3 db down at 20kHZ. Not only that, but every Tact stock correction, which comes with the unit, rolls off the high at 20kHz at about 5db or more. If you go on the Tact forum and ask anyone if they run the curve flat at 20kHz, I doubt you'd get any who do this....
it matters not a whit which one you *prefer*. if the designer sez one is better, then it is *better*. even if you prefer the lesser model. this isn't as unusual as it may first appear. in many cases, some folk prefer lower models of warious gear.
re: folk not being able to hear stuff above 16khz, this also doesn't mean it's always ok to then assume a speaker flat to 18khz is all you need - it has been shown that even frequencies above 30khz can physically effect frequencies in the audible range. so while you may not be able to hear ultrasonic frequencies, they can & will affect the frequencies you *can* hear. if they are present, that is... :wink:
doug s.
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Rick,
How much for the kit with standard parts? and how much with upgraded parts?
Thanks
EP
I would be glad to quote prices but for $3,800 I can provide a kit with upgraded parts that will be better than the Excelarray. Six of the same woofers per side and six Fountek ribbon tweeters. And that includes integral powered 12" subwoofers :D
Rick
So, are you saying that the Excelarray kit is $3800, not including the ribbons?
Thanks for the clarification.
EP
rick is saying for $3800 you get a kit, w/integral powered 12" woofers, *and* ribbons. yust that the ribbons are not the newforms, but the founteks...
doug s.
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That's what I thought he meant but I didn't ask for the price of that model...that's why I questioned it again.
Thanks
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Rick, thanks for your post. I'm glad to hear that you have adjusted your testing procedures to check for this problem.
How would the on-site service work? You're far from New York City, so I assume you will not just fly up on the next flight.
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Rick, thanks for your post. I'm glad to hear that you have adjusted your testing procedures to check for this problem.
How would the on-site service work? You're far from New York City, so I assume you will not just fly up on the next flight.
I would send a qualified technician to your home or fly there myself. I've had very few drivers fail in the field so it's not been a problem at all.
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Gosh folks, if the man says the new speaker is better, it's BETTER!
Haven't heard the Fountek but the Newform ribbon is very good up to 18kHz where it mass limits. It's single-ended, which is not ideal if you plan to use it down to its 1100Hz cutoff. It lacks a little sparkle. An array of Founteks should give you about 1/2 octave more treble extension and maybe 4 kHz of LF extension, which is very good for that type of planar driver.
Of course, there's always the Neo 8....
(one of my favorites...remember I didn't say this and I sure as heck didn't do it...)
Well Brian it would really surprise me if the Fountek was a better tweeter then the Newform ribbon. To date I haven't heard another tweeter that I like better. So if the Fountek is a better tweeter, well that would be saying a whole lot. What other speakers use the Fountek tweeter? I've never heard of it.
Gary
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Well Brian it would really surprise me if the Fountek was a better tweeter then the Newform ribbon. To date I haven't heard another tweeter that I like better. So if the Fountek is a better tweeter, well that would be saying a whole lot. What other speakers use the Fountek tweeter? I've never heard of it.
Gary
Fountek is fairly new to the OEM market so that's why not many people have heard of them.
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Hi Rick,
Being the designer of both speakers, I'm sure you're aware of the overall performance differences between the two. Like frequency response and efficiency. However you've never lived for any extended length of time with either of these speakers, nor done a side by side comparison. I think what Brad was trying to say is, there may be subtle differences between the two that would lead someone to prefer the Excelarray's over the Incredarray.
Gary
There are some significant differences between them which I think would cause most people to favor the Incredarray. The voicing is different though and some listeners may prefer the slightly shelved down top octaves of the Excelarray. The highs can also be adjusted for a similar response with the Incredarray.
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There are some significant differences between them which I think would cause most people to favor the Incredarray. The voicing is different though and some listeners may prefer the slightly shelved down top octaves of the Excelarray. The highs can also be adjusted for a similar response with the Incredarray.
I just finished listening to Carmian Burana in its entirety, absolutely incredible in every way. Nothing I would call "shelved down", just the closest reproduction to live music I've ever heard. If lighting has struck twice for you and you've created another masterpiece, then God bless you.:angel:
Gary