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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => Enclosures => Topic started by: 2bigears on 28 Nov 2016, 09:53 pm
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:D Hi everybody. I sold my big stereo and going with a smaller one. I bought an integrated amp with 225 hp .. An Anthem here in Canada used.
I do love used as i'm on a budget now. I have a Rega p9 for big plastic discs and an apple dig digital set up. I'm looking for a smaller speaker with sweet mids and uppers and being in a condo or appt i will not need large lows. I am all ears ???? :D
There are so many choices out there. I don't have access to brick and mortar stores and used is more my style now. I do have to admit the Philharmonic speakers look amazing .. but new and US exchange is a big turn off . But i know,, ya get what ya pay for !! ha Any help on the matter THANKS . the dam paradox of choice gets me every time ,,,, ha :D
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Salk Silks
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Just buy a new pair of BMR Philharmonitor speakers and be done with it.
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Your budget would allow for new Spatial M4 Turbo S.
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:D i was just looking at those bar's ,,,,ha ,, dam 30% exchange rate ,,,, :D
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Can you build a cabinet? If so, look at the GR Research X-Statik kit. Much cheaper than your limit, but no compromise in quality. Kits are great that way. :thumb:
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:D i would love to build my own.. just sold all my tools ,, ha.. :D
kits are a great way to go though ,, :D 600 bucks for upgraded complete. very reasonable ,,,, :D
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All recommend here are great,here another one Fritz speakers :thumb:
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All recommend here are great,here another one Fritz speakers :thumb:
Yeah, I really liked the Carbon 7's that I heard years ago, but they like really beefy power and with shipping and the exchange rate with Canada is well above $2500 Canadian. Don't know about their cheaper models.
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I do love used as i'm on a budget now.
Pat,
Why buy used when you can buy new at used prices? :scratch:
And why blow the whole budget when you can get >>>THESE (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.phptopic=116702.0) <<< for 900 USD? :thumb:
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Those should be free since there is nothing there.
Na, simplify your life, flip out the Antheme and get these, http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=144539.0
Rocket Ronny
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Na, simplify your life, flip out the Anthem and get these, http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=144539.0
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:D. Dam,, just bought the 225 Anthem. How do you run multiple sources with these 6 amped speakers ???? :D turntable and dig ??
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Pat,
Why buy used when you can buy new at used prices? :scratch:
And why blow the whole budget when you can get >>>THESE (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.phptopic=116702.0) <<< for 900 USD? :thumb:
Here is a working link... http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=116702.0 (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=116702.0)
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:D. Dam,, just bought the 225 Anthem. How do you run multiple sources with these 6 amped speakers ???? :D turntable and dig ??
Easy: preamp with phono section (but ideally it will have XLR (balanced) outputs. The K&H speakers have just one XLR input per speaker.
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Here is a pair you might can win for free. These look awesome, $2500 for chrome, $1675 for black or silver and free shipping from Germany. Rave review is coming soon from Positive Feedback.
http://www.essenceelectrostatic.com/essence-ceratec-winter-sweeps-2016/
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:D dam again. my integrated has no balanced outs.... :D
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I entered $1500 min/$2500 max for price on canuckaudiomart and came up with this:
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/classifieds/3-speakers/?price_min=1500&price_max=2500&photo=Y&sortby=price_desc
I think there are 159 listings. Hope this helps.
Michael
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dam again. my integrated has no balanced outs
You can run single ended rca out to balanced in as explained in the ad. :D
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I combed the Canuck classifieds last night with this price bracket in mind.
Bigears are you out in the western part of the country? Assume shipping is not an issue, so deals from anywhere should be OK.
If it were me, and I was moving out of my dedicated room (the horror!) into a shared space again, I would likely return to stand mounts. Actually I still use stand mounts! I have played with floorstanders, but really like good stand mounts.
I saw some NOLA Boxers listed, they have a great rep.
I saw some Totem Rainmakers, they too have an excellent reputation.
I really enjoy my Focal Electra 906's (from late 90's not the newer Aria 906 which has lots of followers too).
Saw a few Harbeths that might be worth a poke if you like their sound.
At least one set of PMC's caught my attention too - they love a good kick from an amp like yours!
Lastly I have a soft spot for the Dynaudio Focus 160's listed for $1600 or so from Audio Eden (good guys to deal with). Those would also mate well with the grunt of the Anthem.
Good luck!
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Being in a condo, make sure the speaker sounds good at lower SPLs!
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Amphion One15...these have been blowing my mind this past year. I run them with the Amphion Amp100 and Amphion cabling. I'm also Canadian and got them locally from Studio Economik. It was one of the better priced deals available in Canada.
Easily the best sounding nearfields I've heard at lower SPLs. They are sealed design with a passive radiator which helps maintain linearity at low levels. Their imaging and ability to produce a phantom image is TOTL at its price. I've used bigger ATC SCM150s and these are just as fun/critical to use but in a smaller scale. Despite their size, they never sound boxy or limiting. I've stopped using my HD 800 because of these. No need to switch over to headphones like previously for resolution or imaging superiority. These blow away the LS50s that I've tried in multiple rigs. I feed them with a Bryston BDP-1 running WAVs going into a Dangerous Source running off a LPS.
The only caveat is that they dramatically get better with good room treatment. Other speakers and monitors that I've had in here sound relatively good and close in treated and untreated rooms. If you can get some kind of treatment, these will be the in the very shortlist for ultimate pair of nearfields at that price.
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Keep your eyes peeled for a used pair of Reference 3a Grand Veenas. They should come up in that price range and are excellent performers with any genre of music at anything less than less breaking (and ear damaging) levels. Highly recommended.
Shakey
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:D Hi everybody. I sold my big stereo and going with a smaller one. I bought an integrated amp with 225 hp .. An Anthem here in Canada used.
I do love used as i'm on a budget now. I have a Rega p9 for big plastic discs and an apple dig digital set up. I'm looking for a smaller speaker with sweet mids and uppers and being in a condo or appt i will not need large lows. I am all ears ???? :D
There are so many choices out there. I don't have access to brick and mortar stores and used is more my style now. I do have to admit the Philharmonic speakers look amazing .. but new and US exchange is a big turn off . But i know,, ya get what ya pay for !! ha Any help on the matter THANKS . the dam paradox of choice gets me every time ,,,, ha :D
ELAC the best $500 one will ever spend on a stand mounted speaker. Period.
charles
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:D lot of good ideas here. Thanks soooo much everyone. This is a mistake i can't make. 'GET-ER-DONE' like Larry says ,, but done well.
A good point brought up about low level listening. I will miss my midnight basement concert sessions ,, ha. My ears thank me.
The 300's look cool, but i have rca only. Are studio speakers cold and sterile ?? Flavourless ?? I just cashed in on a new amp , darn.
paradox of choice again ???? haha :D
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I have heard these personally in Ed's house and was blown away by their performance. They need to be located in the corners of your listening space, but we got past 100 dB and they were clean as a whistle.
Ed is a very straight shooter and his speakers represent a super value.
He's got a link on the Transcendent Sound page for a DIY bucket sub that was in the room and was so well integrated to the point that I could not find it.
It's a no BS approach with top notch performance.
http://www.thehornshoppe.com/
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:D lot of good ideas here. Thanks soooo much everyone. This is a mistake i can't make. 'GET-ER-DONE' like Larry says ,, but done well.
A good point brought up about low level listening. I will miss my midnight basement concert sessions ,, ha. My ears thank me.
The 300's look cool, but i have rca only. Are studio speakers cold and sterile ?? Flavourless ?? I just cashed in on a new amp , darn.
paradox of choice again ???? haha :D
Depends on the particular brand and model. There are plenty of hi-fi speakers that I find absolutely boring. Same goes for pro world. On the other hand, a lot of mastering guys use full range hi-fi gear. Don't sweat about it. If low level listening is a must, then the Amphions I mentioned should be placed on the list. You can read the vast amount of reviews on the Amphion Beautiful thread on Gearslutz. People there have speakers ranging from $1000 to $30k and above. The One15 in particular get praised for its punchy and slightly mid front sound, which works in casual settings as well.
Just as importantly, you'll find a lot of comments on the low SPL performance of the Amphion.
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Get a pair of Omegas. Add a sub. Excellent approach for small to medium rooms, where neighbors might be an issue. Listen nearfield, take the room outta play and likely preclude the need for room treatments. Nearfield also means you can listen at lower levels and still be satisfied. Omegas perform great in this regard, gelling nicely and delivering great finesse and nuance. Sub offers good flexibility: dial output up or down..... use it or not.......as determined by your tastes, time of day and tolerance of your neighbors.
I recently setup a 2nd system exactly like this and am blown away. I've owned many VG floorstanders in the US$ 5k to 10k range, and this setup gives just as much pleasure, if not more! Presence, transparency, PRAT, tone, dimension and musical involvement in spades. Hugely enjoyable listening experience, with outta this world buck bang!
You can see my post here for further info:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=146695.msg1569599#msg1569599
A local buddy has the same sub with a pair of Omega Super 3 XRS, and his nearfield setup is also tremendously enjoyable.
Another very experienced online buddy tells me he is getting great results pairing this same Gallo sub with both his Omega models: Super Alnico Monitors and Super 3i monitors. (Over the years he has owned much drool worthy gear -- including VAC + Eggleston Works Andras -- and he tells me his Omega + low power amp + sub setups provide him the greatest listening pleasure he's ever experienced).
Buy used. Assuming about US$ 500 for sub, you can easily do the entire setup (speaker + sub) for US$ 1000 to 2000, depending on Omega model. Right now there are several Omega models FS on Audiogon and Canuck / USA Audiomart. There's even a pair in British Columbia.
Added benefit of highly efficient single drivers is they widen your amp universe significantly, including single digit SET beauties. Sell Anthem, buy either (for example) Decware or Wolf Ear Audio amp (both are reported to have spectacular synergy w/ Omega), and you'll put green in your pocket. Basically, any amp will drive the speaker, just a matter of taste and synergy.
Goto Omega circle here on AC and read all the glowing reviews from very satisfied owners. Believe me when I say IT'S NOT HYPE! :thumb:
Good luck in your search!
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The 300's look cool, but i have rca only
You can buy rca to xlr adapters. Not an issue. Seriosly, contact Russell. They would not be cold and sterile.
Rocket Ronny
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:D i just bought the integrated ,,,, ha .. i'm done with buying ,,,, (4 now) ha.
not sure how to hook the 300's up to the integrated amp ???? plus the TT and Dig system. you would have to by-pass ??
don't know about that ?? have to check the Amphions out and Omega ,, interesting ,, thanks everybody. choices are dam many ,,,, :D
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This was the thread I was referencing: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/949764-amphion-beautiful.html
DO pay attention to the other monitors/speakers they are being compared. This is serious territory. Enjoy! :thumb:
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Perhaps a pair of Andrew Jones designed Elac Uni-fi UB5 3-way @ $500 U.S. A decent sub and you've got quite a near field music system. I've heard these at the RMAF and they're truly remarkable for the price!
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: :D. Low volumes ,, smaller room and up close. This is where i will be.
Speakers that sound good under these conditions are of interest. S,,, To use the 300's i can
Run 'pre out' rca's to speakers to utilize their built in amps ?? Correct ??
I have a pair of Cardas rca-balanced adaptors , these will not affect sound at all i'm wondering ?
My last speakers were ProAc D38's ,,power hungry and sounded pretty good with volume.
:D
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I combed the Canuck classifieds last night with this price bracket in mind.
Bigears are you out in the western part of the country? Assume shipping is not an issue, so deals from anywhere should be OK.
If it were me, and I was moving out of my dedicated room (the horror!) into a shared space again, I would likely return to stand mounts. Actually I still use stand mounts! I have played with floorstanders, but really like good stand mounts.
I saw some NOLA Boxers listed, they have a great rep.
I saw some Totem Rainmakers, they too have an excellent reputation.
I really enjoy my Focal Electra 906's (from late 90's not the newer Aria 906 which has lots of followers too).
Saw a few Harbeths that might be worth a poke if you like their sound.
At least one set of PMC's caught my attention too - they love a good kick from an amp like yours!
Lastly I have a soft spot for the Dynaudio Focus 160's listed for $1600 or so from Audio Eden (good guys to deal with). Those would also mate well with the grunt of the Anthem.
Good luck!
Some good, IMO, suggestions from Mark. :thumb:
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: :D. Low volumes ,, smaller room and up close. This is where i will be.
Speakers that sound good under these conditions are of interest.
Single driver or simple 2-way, otherwise you risk incoherency / lack of driver integration or overpowering room. This means monitor or small floorstander. Use anything else at your peril. Add a sub, if you need more fullness / heft / reach.
I'm in a small 10 x 11 room, nearfield setup, lowish volumes. I use a small single driver floorstander + sub, 8 ft speaker spread, driver-to-ear is 7 ft. Very unfussy to setup and integrate. Sound is spectacular and spacious.
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:D. A small 2 way it is ,,,,, thanks all. I really really appreciate the helping hands. :D
I put an offer on the Dynaudio 160's .... have not heard of course ,, dam bush living .. :D
i would love to hear Fritz monitors. those 7's look amazing. :D
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:D. A small 2 way it is ,,,,, thanks all. I really really appreciate the helping hands. :D
I put an offer on the Dynaudio 160's .... have not heard of course ,, dam bush living .. :D
I am not related to the seller below, but I heard these in a pretty small hotel room at AXPONA 2016 and was mighty impressed. For $1300, I don't think you will do better. Frankly, I don't think you'd do better under your $2500 budget. They were *THAT* good.....and these *are* a two-way. Of course, I don't know if you are close to Northern NJ/NYC.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=147018.msg1572340;topicseen#new
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:D that's another speaker i would love to hear. dam ,,,, very interesting indeed. :D
would need him to ship to Canada. he doesn't sound like he wants to ship to badly.. :D
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: :D. Low volumes ,, smaller room and up close. This is where i will be.
Speakers that sound good under these conditions are of interest. S,,, To use the 300's i can
Run 'pre out' rca's to speakers to utilize their built in amps ?? Correct ??
I have a pair of Cardas rca-balanced adaptors , these will not affect sound at all i'm wondering ?
My last speakers were ProAc D38's ,,power hungry and sounded pretty good with volume.
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I'd highly recommend Omega, with your budget you could find some Super Alnico Monitors and they'd be perfect for the type of listening you described. It takes a super-premium speaker to come close to the speed, coherency and resolution of the Omegas, and even then the Omegas are better for nearfield listening vs a multi-way speaker. I've hear all the high $ single drivers like Voxativ, AER and Feastrex and Omega is competitive with them for a fraction of the price.
On amps, they work well with tubes and SS. For nearfield and low volumes a SET would probably be ideal but Omega is still the best choice at your price point and with your current amp, imo.
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My "babies" are commissioned single driver floor-standers in transmission line cabinets. But single driver speakers do have their limitations. You can search those out on your own. DaveC113 makes good points but he's an Omega fanboy and your Anthem is not the right amp for high efficiency speakers. Omega speakers are hard to audition without purchasing them.
Any open baffle (dipole) speaker will take 3 - 5 foot clearance from the front wall to optimally perform, not ideal for a small room. And these are another high efficiency speaker.
mcgsxr and sunnydaze make good points.
Amphion is an intriguing option, but again how to audition?
I've heard the horn shoppe horns several times, very placement fussy, never found them them to be particularly impressive, and very short (can easily be blocked by furnishings).
The K&H O300's would be killer (overkill) but pretty much require you to sell the Anthem. But many, many other smaller active monitors are available. Check out audiostream.com
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I'd highly recommend Omega, with your budget you could find some Super Alnico Monitors and they'd be perfect for the type of listening you described. It takes a super-premium speaker to come close to the speed, coherency and resolution of the Omegas, and even then the Omegas are better for nearfield listening vs a multi-way speaker. I've hear all the high $ single drivers like Voxativ, AER and Feastrex and Omega is competitive with them for a fraction of the price.
On amps, they work well with tubes and SS. For nearfield and low volumes a SET would probably be ideal but Omega is still the best choice at your price point and with your current amp, imo.
Yep...exactly as I said earlier! :thumb:
There is a wealth of used Omega models up FS right now: 4 pair on AG, 4 pair on Canuck / USA Audiomart, including 2 pair in Canada. All priced well below your budget.
http://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649315155-omega-speaker-systems-super-alnico-monitor/
http://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649311342-omega-super-3i-monitor-in-real-zebrawood/
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Sweet mids and high you say? Try Sonus Faber, any model within your budget.
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Considering the speakers the OP had, and the price he sold them for, I can't help but think how disappointed he will be with any of the suggestions in this thread. :|
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I dont think the K & H would dissapoint. Having heard his speakers he will have quite an adjustment.
Maybe better to completely walk away from a system for a while and just get some killer headphones. Aka. The new Focal Elear or Utopia.
Or get a killer audio system like I have in my Tundra. I listen to it every day with a big smile. Turn it up as loud as i want and no neighbors to complain.
Anyway, did you get enough suggestions to confuse the issue.
Rocket Ronny
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DaveC113 makes good points but he's an Omega fanboy and your Anthem is not the right amp for high efficiency speakers.
Fanboy is a derogatory term for people who promote what they like in an exaggerated, overly enthusiastic manner with quite a bit of bias. People use the term fanboy to dismiss others' opinions as being unworthy, insignificant and biased. JLM, I don't think that kind of language has any place here and what the term insinuates about me is just nasty. Why don't you think about what you're posting and refrain from the ad-hominems next time, ok?
Also, you post about his Anthem being the wrong amp but the truth is you've never even heard an Omega speaker let alone owned them. So, you have no clue and it seems have made up in your mind what Omegas sound like and what the best amp to power them is based on your imagination. That's fine, but when you assert what goes on in your imagination as fact in public it becomes a problem and you need to be called out for it. The actual truth is Omega speakers sound fine with SS amps. It is true other single driver speakers don't, even the older Omega 4.5" hemp drivers sounded horrible with my ss amp, but the recent drivers are designed significantly differently and don't require a high output impedance amp to sound right.
My opinions are based on hearing a great number of single driver speakers over the years. I've heard almost every major brand and often I have heard many models in a brand's lineup. I've also heard the same drivers in many different cabinets. So, contrary to your assertion that I'm a "fanboy", the actual truth is my opinion is based on quite a bit of experience while your opinion is based on thoughts you've made up in your head, i.e. your imagination. So, to me it seems ironic that someone who is posting without experience is calling someone else who is posting their actual, real-life experiences a fanboy.
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Considering the speakers the OP had, and the price he sold them for, I can't help but think how disappointed he will be with any of the suggestions in this thread. :|
Not necessarily true......
My big rig is in a 21 x 14 room. By necessity of room size, I currently own two pair of large floorstanders, very well built, each pair weighing in at about 150 lbs per side. They both sold for $10k, one was direct sell, so thru traditional dealer network, would be priced fair bit higher.
In the right room (smallish)..... in the right setup (nearfield)......with a synergistic amp / speaker pairing appropriate for the room, one can achieve a listening experience that is at least as enjoyable as the big stuff, at a lower price point.
I know, I've done it: small room, nearfield, Omega + SET amp. Different for sure, but just as enjoyable...in some ways, moreso. And at a fraction of the price!
And I personally know two other guys who are very satisified having pursued the same exact path with Omega + low power. One has decades of experience with praised and pricey big name gear. He tells me his downsized Omega setup gives him the most sheer enjoyment he's ever personally experienced.
For reference, I have owned the following speakers, almost all of them medium / large floorstanders: Coincident, Gallo, Merlin, Reference 3A, PBN Audio Montana, Silverline, Proac, Meadowlark, DeVore, JM Reynaud, Vienna Acoustics, Spendor, Sunny Speaker Tech, Vaughn (and others that escape current memory)
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:D. Holy ,,,, Sunnydaze ,, you have had a lot of speakers. Wowwwww. :D
And i was thinking what your thinking too. Modern gear has made strides ahead ,, i think ?? :D
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Hi Pat- Please check your messages.
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Fanboy is a derogatory term for people who promote what they like in an exaggerated, overly enthusiastic manner with quite a bit of bias. People use the term fanboy to dismiss others' opinions as being unworthy, insignificant and biased. JLM, I don't think that kind of language has any place here and what the term insinuates about me is just nasty. Why don't you think about what you're posting and refrain from the ad-hominems next time, ok?
Also, you post about his Anthem being the wrong amp but the truth is you've never even heard an Omega speaker let alone owned them. So, you have no clue and it seems have made up in your mind what Omegas sound like and what the best amp to power them is based on your imagination. That's fine, but when you assert what goes on in your imagination as fact in public it becomes a problem and you need to be called out for it. The actual truth is Omega speakers sound fine with SS amps. It is true other single driver speakers don't, even the older Omega 4.5" hemp drivers sounded horrible with my ss amp, but the recent drivers are designed significantly differently and don't require a high output impedance amp to sound right.
My opinions are based on hearing a great number of single driver speakers over the years. I've heard almost every major brand and often I have heard many models in a brand's lineup. I've also heard the same drivers in many different cabinets. So, contrary to your assertion that I'm a "fanboy", the actual truth is my opinion is based on quite a bit of experience while your opinion is based on thoughts you've made up in your head, i.e. your imagination. So, to me it seems ironic that someone who is posting without experience is calling someone else who is posting their actual, real-life experiences a fanboy.
Sorry for hurting your feelings, but I have a different definition of "fanboy": an extremely enthusiastic fan (same as Webster). No degradation was intended, just trying to put your comment into context. And I have heard Omega speakers (just not the current ones). But I've also heard many single driver speakers and as you may recall I own single driver speakers (that I commissioned and sound great with solid state).
I mentioned Anthem being the wrong amp because it's way over powered for high efficiency speakers and it's solid state, so it's sweet spot in it's power curve is probably way beyond what Omega's are capable of handling and where he'd be likely to be listening. Plus the volume control may not be useable being how overpowered it is for an Omega speaker.
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:D thanks everyone for the advice. Going from big-fi to realistic will be a change. But i believe the end of the world is soon. selling all my shit
and moving in the hippie direction. Not a dirty hippie. A green as i can be hip and laying down a small footprint. The days of over consuming
for me ended as soon as i watched too much youtube ,,,, haha .... But i do thank everyone for very good steering and i'm hoping the new
system sounds fine. I bought the Anthem without looking. They took my old Sonic Frontiers CD1 on trade. Two birds so to speak. :D
Fritz ,, stand by please. :D ohhh, Fritz,, sharpen that pencil please ,,,, haven't worked in two years,, ha.. (not funny) :D
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:D thanks everyone for the advice. Going from big-fi to realistic will be a change. But i believe the end of the world is soon. selling all my shit
and moving in the hippie direction. Not a dirty hippie. A green as i can be hip and laying down a small footprint. The days of over consuming
for me ended as soon as i watched too much youtube ,,,, haha .... But i do thank everyone for very good steering and i'm hoping the new
system sounds fine. I bought the Anthem without looking. They took my old Sonic Frontiers CD1 on trade. Two birds so to speak. :D
Fritz ,, stand by please. :D ohhh, Fritz,, sharpen that pencil please ,,,, haven't worked in two years,, ha.. (not funny) :D
Well, if you're going that way. Just buy a Salk Powerplay and just plug in the source. No fancy electronics needed.
http://salksound.com/model.php?model=PowerPlay%20Monitors
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:D. Holy shit those are cool. Home speakers that are active. Who knew ? Look dam good. And a great idea. I never knew. Pretty cool product. :D
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2bigears, you missed out on a deal of the century. On Canuck Audio about five years ago, someone in Canada offered a free pair of the Acoustat monitor 3's if you only picked them up. These are big planers but works very well in small rooms, very detailed at very low volume. These include the OTL DD servo amps and you never need speaker wires. No dynamic speakers under 10K will touch them. Another pair might pop up if you keep watch.
If you like Stax headphones, these are even better.
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:D. Haha ,,,, someone got lucky. I'm actually all for small. At my age ,, size don't matter ,,,, ha
If Fritz can convince me to buy. I'm out. Time is ticking, time is short. :D
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Just buy a new pair of BMR Philharmonitor speakers and be done with it.
Those look promising—I'd like to hear them.
I'd also like to hear these Buchardt S300 MkIIs from Denmark, apparently designed by an engineer formerly with Dynaudio:
http://www.buchardt-audio.com/products/s300-black
reviewed by 6moons here:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/buchardt/1.html
These both have extraordinary bass extension: -2 dB at 30Hz for the BMR Philharmonitors and -3 dB at 33 Hz for the Buchardts.
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:D yes ,, those are very good picks ,, both on radar, thank you. How much are those s300's ? Are they in the game ?
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:D. Holy shit those are cool. Home speakers that are active. Who knew ? Look dam good. And a great idea. I never knew. Pretty cool product. :D
I did and am a big fan too, but you already had the Anthem. But not a fan of locking into a DAC as fast as that technology keeps improving/changing. Russell's K&H o300's are active, without the built-in DAC, but probably too big/powerful for your condo. AVi out of England sells something similar to the Salks, heard them once but wasn't terribly impressed. If you're interested in going active visit audiostream.com, they focus on desktop systems (DAC/preamp with smaller active speakers that can fill the room).
As you may recall my entire system is made up of my laptop and DAC/preamp plus active 2-ways monitors. I see this as the future as everyone has a computer, convenience is the big trend, and we're all going into smaller living quarters - right up your alley.
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Trung has a pair of the Audience Clarinet 2+2's for sale at $1900 here on AC, retail is $4K. There are a lot of rave reviews on these small speakers, no crossover.
My buddy Rex owns the 1+1's and says these are better than his Quads were, much better than his KEF LS50's. Read some of the reviews on the 1+1's, these retail for $2200.
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:D the state of audio sure is changing with the times.
I can't give away my monster KW750. A few reasons
for that I guess. Small has gotten so much better.
Pretty cool actually. I'll call a shipyard. See if they want
to buy a boat anchor. Ha Now that's funny but not. :D
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Some fine suggestions here, and a couple I've never investigated. I like Hawthorne speakers and frankly, you could just get their Sterling Silver SSI 15" (or even the 10") and you have no need for a sub-woofer. I have Hawthorne Trios and they are great; even without the subs (Augies) the bass is satisfyingly deep. So, you can put these "coaxials" in DIY or pre-fab baffle and you're done. All under budget. Darrell is one of the nicest guys I've met in the Audio World, too. Yes, these MIGHT be a bit bigger than you want, but I've learned that without deep non-boomy bass (even at low volumes) you're missing something vital. I speak from my personal evolution, a pair of modded Klipsch taught me some important lessons about dynamics and deep [emphasis: NOT boomy] bass. Truly small speakers rarely produce deep bass (understandably) and WHEN they do so, it often sounds artificial. Also, the Hawthorne SSI sound excellent and full at low volume levels. Yet, when called on to crank, they rock! And, they are about 97 db efficient, IIRC.
Fritz. I've spoken with him and he's another great guy offering serious value in his designs. And, I have Fritz Carbon Towers. BTW, I can drive them to moderately loud but very satisfying levels with a low power Temple Bantam integrated.
I recall reading great things about Philharmonitor speakers.
Lots of good choices. I can't comment on the Omegas, but obviously many who own them love them. Good luck in your quest.
Fanboy is a derogatory term for people who promote what they like in an exaggerated, overly enthusiastic manner with quite a bit of bias. People use the term fanboy to dismiss others' opinions as being unworthy, insignificant and biased. JLM, I don't think that kind of language has any place here and what the term insinuates about me is just nasty. Why don't you think about what you're posting and refrain from the ad-hominems next time, ok?
Also, you post about his Anthem being the wrong amp but the truth is you've never even heard an Omega speaker let alone owned them. So, you have no clue and it seems have made up in your mind what Omegas sound like and what the best amp to power them is based on your imagination. That's fine, but when you assert what goes on in your imagination as fact in public it becomes a problem and you need to be called out for it. The actual truth is Omega speakers sound fine with SS amps. It is true other single driver speakers don't, even the older Omega 4.5" hemp drivers sounded horrible with my ss amp, but the recent drivers are designed significantly differently and don't require a high output impedance amp to sound right.
My opinions are based on hearing a great number of single driver speakers over the years. I've heard almost every major brand and often I have heard many models in a brand's lineup. I've also heard the same drivers in many different cabinets. So, contrary to your assertion that I'm a "fanboy", the actual truth is my opinion is based on quite a bit of experience while your opinion is based on thoughts you've made up in your head, i.e. your imagination. So, to me it seems ironic that someone who is posting without experience is calling someone else who is posting their actual, real-life experiences a fanboy.
I rarely comment on comments, especially the craftsmanship of such,but that is one well stated piece of prose. We need a thread just for eloquent commentaries.
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:D. Ohhhhh no. Now let me look. And yes. Nicely stated. Very politically neutral. Nice . :D
Investigating now. But a large speaker and a sub is too much. Thanks . :D
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Just buy a new pair of BMR Philharmonitor speakers and be done with it.
And don't forgot the arc welder to power it!
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:D That BMR speaker does look of interest. The s300's look good ,, but where do you buy them ?? Every set of speakers i've bought over the years have been on advice and recommendations. A few mistakes made and fun it was. Cost many a dollar. But it's a hobby. To be expected.
Now in these seemingly end times i would very much like to somewhat nail this pick of a few good choices. :D
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And don't forgot the arc welder to power it!
With an Anthem integrated in a condo/apt., don't think so.
Dennis doesn't fudge numbers. 84.5db sensitivity. http://philharmonicaudio.com/BMR%20Philharmonitor.html
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:D 225 hp from the Anthem won't do it ?? i still have the kw750 i can plug into it,,,, ha 750hp should kick those puppies ass ??
not really the path i wanted to go down ,, i thought a daily stout integrated was the way to go ,, simplify and right size,, :D
maybe i should have just bought a decent preamp. but to have an amp with crazy power seems silly ,,
till you run into a heavy load .. :D
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:D That BMR speaker does look of interest. The s300's look good ,, but where do you buy them ?? Every set of speakers i've bought over the years have been on advice and recommendations. A few mistakes made and fun it was. Cost many a dollar. But it's a hobby. To be expected.
Now in these seemingly end times i would very much like to somewhat nail this pick of a few good choices. :D
The S300s are available only online; that's how they keep the price down. They do include free worldwide shipping and free return shipping if not happy within 30 days: http://www.buchardt-audio.com/pages/listen-at-home
The price starts at $1025 USD
Thanks for mentioning my K+H 0300s, JLM! They still have not sold and aren't that big (15X11X10", W/D/H). Pack a punch, though.
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:D That BMR speaker does look of interest.
They are actually pretty good for what they are. They also use BMR drivers in the Minx series if you want to go super small, but they will require bass augmentation.
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:D ok, getting close. those 300's are that cheap/economical and free shipping worldwide. ohhhhh my. i just might bite here ..
you can even send them back ???? holy moly ,, i really want to stay 0n-shore ,,,, but this is of serious interest ,, :D
these 300's must be good. they say no sub needed. and the BMR is the same. both have equal cost . dam !!!!! :D
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Pat,
You're moving, right? Possibly to Kelowna? It's a nice place, but have you chosen your new digs yet?
The reason I ask is... before I moved from Alberta to the Penticton area in 98, I almost sold my speakers thinking they'd be too big for the new space. At that time I considered some smaller speakers (Totem One Signatures) as I thought I'd end up with a small listening space. However, in the end I'm glad I kept my much better and bigger floor standing speakers because when I finally found a place, the room turned out to be a non issue.
So what I'm saying is, if you haven't found a place yet, don't make a decision yet. You might find yourself situated in a nice place with a decent view like...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=154278)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=154279)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=154280)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=154281)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=154282)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=154283)
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these 300's must be good. they say no sub needed. and the BMR is the same. both have equal cost . dam !!!!! :D
The S300 does not have BMR drivers.
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:D nice view .... my big speakers are gone. big preamp gone. need to sell my amp ,, good lord.
i still like Penticton but now thinking Kelowna. 1000 bucks or 1500 is not a lot. these will fit the bill for a while .
you got a nice place there ,,,, you don't have a room to rent do you ?? might be coming next week for a peak ,,,, :D
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You're welcome to drop in for a visit, but sorry, no room to rent. Whether you are looking to buy or rent, I can help you find a nice place in keeping with your budget.
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Did you sell your house.
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Video of Audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwR9ASnQNzI
Reviews
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/audience-debuts-its-improved-clairaudient-11-v2-loudspeaker-and-introduces-11-v2-kit-options/
http://www.dagogo.com/audience-clairaudient-11-v2-and-v2-loudspeakers-review
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0916/Audience_ClairAudient_1_plus1_V2_Monitor_Review.htm
In this regard, the 1+1 V2+ virtually rivals my $60,000 reference loudspeakers! Yes, you read that right!
http://www.stereotimes.com/post/audience-clairaudient-11-monitors/