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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => The Vinyl Circle => Topic started by: cso_fan on 4 Sep 2019, 08:59 pm

Title: Schitt Turntable
Post by: cso_fan on 4 Sep 2019, 08:59 pm
This could be interesting.https://www.schiit.com/products/sol (https://www.schiit.com/products/sol)
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: Sam-fi on 5 Sep 2019, 12:27 pm
I've been waiting for the Sol for what seems all year! Let's get a listening impressions thread going.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: S Clark on 5 Sep 2019, 12:36 pm
Potentially interesting.  Not especially a fan of the company, but we'll see what they can do with vinyl.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: rollo on 5 Sep 2019, 12:43 pm
  Well price is VG. Is this not what many people wanted inexpensive gear ?? From soup to nuts . Just gotta like the soup. :|


charles
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: displayname on 5 Sep 2019, 12:57 pm
It's certainly creating a lot of buzz. I'm willing to bet we see reviews fairly quickly after RMAF.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: I.Greyhound Fan on 5 Sep 2019, 01:09 pm
It has a high end design and features just looking at it.  I will get to see it and hear it at RMAF.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: Letitroll98 on 5 Sep 2019, 01:35 pm
Specs are fairly good, design looks interesting, the Rube Goldberg tonearm design gives some pause regarding durability.  I think everyone here has been saying we'd like to know more, like how does it sound.  A bold effort showing functionality over appearence, we've seen these before and they usually make a stir then fade away.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: mick wolfe on 5 Sep 2019, 04:45 pm
Specs are fairly good, design looks interesting, the Rube Goldberg tonearm design gives some pause regarding durability.  I think everyone here has been saying we'd like to know more, like how does it sound.  A bold effort showing functionality over appearence, we've seen these before and they usually make a stir then fade away.

The same could be said for Well Tempered in regard to functionality over appearance. However in this case, they haven't  faded away. In fact, I'll probably fade away before my Amadeus does. In regard to Schitt, I own 3 of their products and I'm impressed with what they bring to the table. That said, until we get some long term listening impressions, it's anybody's guess what the Sol has to offer. My "guess" is that it will be an excellent value, (as usual) but only time will tell.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: Sam-fi on 5 Sep 2019, 04:51 pm
I'm a big fan of schiit's multibit DAC quite the stunner for the price. I also have the lyr 3 same could be said about it's quality as well, it seems to drive my Mr. Speakers AEon opens with a synergy that has to be heard it's so good.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: wushuliu on 5 Sep 2019, 05:56 pm
It's going to sell out immediately. It looks like a 2k+ table, and Schiit is no Fluance or whatever budget company is cranking out
tables these days. This is absolutely going to hit VPI, Rega, and Pro-ject where it hurts. Good.
But on the other hand, it's almost certain to have kinks that will need to be worked out in a revision.
I hope it can remain in production for at least a year since I won't consider getting one before then.

Who would have thought turntables would have come back so hard?
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: FireGuy on 5 Sep 2019, 06:24 pm
Specs are fairly good, design looks interesting, the Rube Goldberg tonearm design gives some pause regarding durability.  I think everyone here has been saying we'd like to know more, like how does it sound.  A bold effort showing functionality over appearence, we've seen these before and they usually make a stir then fade away.

I own Schiit gear (amps) and have been impressed with their quality, durability, price and function.  I've made positive recommendations taboot.

The train has NOT left the station, and yet we're saying there's no staying power? 

Let's take a breath and allow the evals to begin.  No one has a crystal ball.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: rollo on 5 Sep 2019, 06:30 pm
  Why would one want to "hurt" VPI, Rega or Pro-ject ?   :scratch:



charles
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: wushuliu on 5 Sep 2019, 06:33 pm
  Why would one want to "hurt" VPI, Rega or Pro-ject ?   :scratch:
charles

Please put in context of the sentence:  "This is absolutely going to hit VPI, Rega, and Pro-ject where it hurts."
I didn't say anyone "want(s) to hurt" anyone.

Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: rollo on 5 Sep 2019, 06:49 pm
Please put in context of the sentence:  "This is absolutely going to hit VPI, Rega, and Pro-ject where it hurts. Good"
I didn't say anyone "want(s) to hurt" anyone.

 Will do. Guess I did not understand "Good"


charles
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: Tyson on 5 Sep 2019, 06:50 pm
When a company brings high performance down to budget or mid priced levels, we all benefit.  iFi did it a few years ago with DACs, seems like Schiit is going to do it now with turntables.  Excellent news, and I hope the new table sounds as good as it looks.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: wushuliu on 5 Sep 2019, 06:54 pm
Will do. Guess I did not understand "Good"


charles

As in the consumer benefits from competition in a marketplace where a few companies dominated price points for several decades.

Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: Letitroll98 on 6 Sep 2019, 10:58 am
I own Schiit gear (amps) and have been impressed with their quality, durability, price and function.  I've made positive recommendations taboot.

The train has NOT left the station, and yet we're saying there's no staying power? 

Let's take a breath and allow the evals to begin.  No one has a crystal ball.

You make good points and yes, we'll most assuredly have to wait and see.  What I meant about fading away is the general model of an electronics company releasing a turntable.  No matter how good they may be they're orphans, nothing like it in the lineup, and they fade away because they don't get the attention needed for a product to survive in a company's product line, NAD is a good example from a similar company.  Schitt may very well break this mold, they've been trying to break things in the industry for a while now.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: mick wolfe on 6 Sep 2019, 05:04 pm
Well, it's encouraging to see " 6 years of R&D " in that promo.  Doesn't appear to be something they just decided to "rush" to the market. We'll just have to wait and see. Could be a real benchmark in entry level tables or .....
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: rollo on 6 Sep 2019, 05:53 pm
  Lots of Schitt going around these days. Couldn't resist :P


charles
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: adydula on 6 Sep 2019, 06:01 pm
Just watched the entire 18 mi setup video,,,boy does that bring back memories!!

The only thing I would like to see improved is how the anti-skating is implemented.

Other than that it looks like it should do the job...maybe not as "polished" as some higher dollar stuff is....

Some of us really like to pay for the heavy duty aluminum billet stuff... :D

This is a Mike Moffat dream. Mr Vinyl at Schitt....and he has done wonders with his MB dacs...and his new Unison USB interface (which is AWESOME).

So I would give this a try for sure if I was into Vinyl and liked to tinker.....

Oh gosh I had a Phase Linear anti-pop and tick "box" just to get rid of those nasty things!!

 :D :D :D

Alex
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: CELT in AR on 6 Sep 2019, 06:54 pm
"Oh gosh I had a Phase Linear anti-pop and tick "box" just to get rid of those nasty things!!"


It's called cleaning your vinyl.  I rarely ever hear a tick or a pop...
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: adydula on 7 Sep 2019, 12:49 am
Oh but the Phase Linear was more than a simple piece of gear.....take a read...

https://kenrockwell.com/audio/phase-linear/autocorrelator.htm

Phase Linear Autocorrelator
Noise Reduction and Dynamic Range Recovery (late 1970s)

oh, believe me I had Dstat, discwasher, polonium radioactive static tool, and God I cant remember all the crap
I used to keep my vinyl clean, never touching the records etc...ah what fun!

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=198412)
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: SteveFord on 7 Sep 2019, 10:22 am
I have one of those Flame Linear boxes sitting on a shelf.
I'll have to break it out and give it a go.

For pops and ticks a real record cleaning machine is the way to go.
Without one you'll ALWAYS have pops and clicks, with one and a good album probably not.
I use an old VPI 16.5 and then give the side being played a quick swipe with a damp Discwasher with really good results.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: bh5280 on 8 Sep 2019, 12:23 am
I have quite a few pieces of their gear, 6 actually, and am intrigued by the Sol for the simple reason I have always wanted a twin-arm table so I can swap from stereo to mono and back quickly.
The Sol looks like it will afford an easily swappable arm mounted with a second cartridge and minimal fuss.
I got to check it out in person today at RMAF, still think I want it, but will wait for some real user reviews to roll in.
And, as another poster mentioned, there will most likely be some sort of revision in the future, being patient might pay off, but again, will be more predicated on real user feedback, I am not that patient typically.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: xsb7244 on 21 Dec 2019, 10:22 pm
I am glad turntable was sold to beta testers or it would never come out and remain in the lab forever.  A lot of feedback from users on other forums.  Sol undergoing changes to make it better.  One day in 2020 or maybe 2021!  Patience will be rewarded and the final Sol will be released.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: wushuliu on 25 Jan 2020, 12:46 am
I am glad turntable was sold to beta testers or it would never come out and remain in the lab forever.  A lot of feedback from users on other forums.  Sol undergoing changes to make it better.  One day in 2020 or maybe 2021!  Patience will be rewarded and the final Sol will be released.

The Sol will be re-released next month. I'm glad they are giving it another go. It all goes to show just how much work is required to design and market tables and why so many companies choose to either outsource some variation of the same model and rebrand, or stick to the most basic design possible in-house (of course while telling you it's because simpler sounds better).
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: xsb7244 on 27 Jan 2020, 12:26 am
Does anybody know if Sol can use different brands of tonearms?  That will make Sol very versatile.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: Opus Flatus on 27 Jan 2020, 04:23 am
The SOL turntable will only work with their unipivot arm. The arm was recently redesigned during the beta for original purchasers. The new arm has the a longer headshell and slightly shorter shaft, same length over all as original. Im still using the original arm. Im very happy with my table.
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: nlitworld on 27 Apr 2021, 07:47 am
Well I went searching the forum for a relevant post about this turntable, and digging up this one seemed the best option. I took the plunge and bought the Sol, assembled and set up quickly this evening. I didn't even get as far as putting on my current cart, just leaving the cheap AT one it came with on there for the moment. First impressions is holy crap this thing is going to be good. Wow is super low, but it does run a bit hot at 33.55 but that can be fixed with a speedbox. Not hugely noticed except for long drawn piano keystrokes. Other than that it seems they fixed a large amoubt of their initial issues like headshell length and excessive platter wobble. The detail and musicality of it playing is just unbelievable. And mind you, I spend just 30 minutes of assembly and fiddling which is hardly enough time past watching the setup videos. After a bit more fiddling this week, we're going to be having some fun here. Just thought I'd give an update if anyone cared to read.

-Lloyd
Title: Re: Schitt Turntable
Post by: Opus Flatus on 27 Apr 2021, 03:18 pm
That's good to hear. Check out Conrad's (the designer) set up video on Youtube if you haven't already. The latest update was on Feb 6, 2021. HE presents great setup tips and design perspectives of the SOL.

Enjoy!