BDA-2 DAC and BDA-3 DAC

James Tanner · « **Reply #820 on:** 12 Feb 2015, 03:51 pm »

Quote from: mav52 on 12 Feb 2015, 01:43 pm

James any new news on a possible release date for the BDA-3 ?

Hi

still a couple of months off.

james

mav52 · « **Reply #821 on:** 12 Feb 2015, 04:35 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 12 Feb 2015, 03:51 pm

Hi

still a couple of months off.

james

thanks

milpai · « **Reply #822 on:** 17 Feb 2015, 05:28 pm »

Hello James,

I am looking to hearing this DAC at the AXPONA 2015.
My plan was to hookup an Oppo 105D and use the HDMI for interfacing the DSD data played though the SACD.

I have been told on another forum that HDMI is not good for audio. Can you please let me know if this is true? I support SACDs and at the same time I do want the ability to download DSD files and play them via DAC.

Thanks!

James Tanner · « **Reply #823 on:** 17 Feb 2015, 06:20 pm »

Quote from: milpai on 17 Feb 2015, 05:28 pm

Hello James,

I am looking to hearing this DAC at the AXPONA 2015.
My plan was to hookup an Oppo 105D and use the HDMI for interfacing the DSD data played though the SACD.

I have been told on another forum that HDMI is not good for audio. Can you please let me know if this is true? I support SACDs and at the same time I do want the ability to download DSD files and play them via DAC.

Thanks!

There is some concern that HDMI has a much higher jitter rate than SPDIF or USB due to the way audio is extracted from the HDMI bit stream.

Can you give me the link to the article please.

James

Phil A · « **Reply #824 on:** 17 Feb 2015, 07:34 pm »

Quote from: milpai on 17 Feb 2015, 05:28 pm

Hello James,

I am looking to hearing this DAC at the AXPONA 2015.
My plan was to hookup an Oppo 105D and use the HDMI for interfacing the DSD data played though the SACD.

I have been told on another forum that HDMI is not good for audio. Can you please let me know if this is true? I support SACDs and at the same time I do want the ability to download DSD files and play them via DAC.

Thanks!

Is this the discussion that initiated the feedback on HDMI? It notes that some DACs have I2S for sending data.
http://forums.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?ddgtl&1380662218

milpai · « **Reply #825 on:** 18 Feb 2015, 01:44 pm »

James/Phil.

Here is the thread:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/752962/who-is-thinking-of-buying-the-schiit-yggdrasil/60

I went through the article in the link, but it is not very clear if the new HDMI standards have improved the jitter issues.

Thanks,
Milind

Phil A · « **Reply #826 on:** 18 Feb 2015, 02:53 pm »

Quote from: milpai on 18 Feb 2015, 01:44 pm

James/Phil.

Here is the thread:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/752962/who-is-thinking-of-buying-the-schiit-yggdrasil/60

I went through the article in the link, but it is not very clear if the new HDMI standards have improved the jitter issues.

Thanks,
Milind

Thanks. I'm not sure that the new standards have done a thing. Here's a link to the differences in HMDI versions:
http://www.audioholics.com/hdtv-formats/understanding-difference-hdmi-versions

Before I had a player capable of doing DSD and a DSD DAC, I used an HDMI audio-de-embedder (in two separate systems) to convert DSD to 88.2 in an Oppo. They are supposed to be bit perfect. I still have them and I may hook them back for the rare occasion I have someone over who wants to play an SACD that I don't have the DSD file for. I actually preferred going into my DAC (and originally used it with a BDA-1) via that route vs. the analog outs of a modded Oppo.

There's nothing perfect in audio. I wish it were standard for DACs to do DoP via something other than USB as well. Personally, I don't think with something like a Bryston it's going to make a ton of difference but other than coverting it to PCM in the Oppo you won't be able to A/B the DSD streams via different inputs. I wouldn't lose sleep over it. I'm sure the BDA-3 will be great sounding. The other choice is a DAC with I2S but them you need a player to send files to it. So just get what bests works and enjoy. The BDA-3 with its inputs and sampling frequencies is about as forward thinking at this point in time as one will get.

bruinsfan72 · « **Reply #827 on:** 20 Feb 2015, 10:27 pm »

Hi James. I realize most the talk here now is about the BDA-3, but I was wondering what the current Canadian list price is of the BDA-2. Also is there much of a backlog now, or is production caught up. Thanks for any info.

James Tanner · « **Reply #828 on:** 20 Feb 2015, 11:03 pm »

Quote from: bruinsfan72 on 20 Feb 2015, 10:27 pm

Hi James. I realize most the talk here now is about the BDA-3, but I was wondering what the current Canadian list price is of the BDA-2. Also is there much of a backlog now, or is production caught up. Thanks for any info.

Hi

$2395 list on the BDA2 and be about 10 days from order. BDP-2 and BDP-1 USB we are very back ordered on.

james

bruinsfan72 · « **Reply #829 on:** 20 Feb 2015, 11:07 pm »

Thanks James

Rod_S · « **Reply #830 on:** 23 Feb 2015, 11:07 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 20 Feb 2015, 11:03 pm

Hi

$2395 list on the BDA2 and be about 10 days from order. BDP-2 and BDP-1 USB we are very back ordered on.

james

Typically how long is the wait on the back orders, specifically the BDP-2? Has it been like this for a while? I'm thinking I might be able to put in for one in April.

James Tanner · « **Reply #831 on:** 23 Feb 2015, 11:46 pm »

Quote from: Rod_S on 23 Feb 2015, 11:07 pm

Typically how long is the wait on the back orders, specifically the BDP-2? Has it been like this for a while? I'm thinking I might be able to put in for one in April.

Hi

I would say 4 weeks from order give the backlog.

james

Rod_S · « **Reply #832 on:** 24 Feb 2015, 12:46 am »

Quote from: James Tanner on 23 Feb 2015, 11:46 pm

Hi

I would say 4 weeks from order give the backlog.

james

Thanks, not as bad as I envisioned, I was thinking perhaps months.

bruinsfan72 · « **Reply #833 on:** 25 Feb 2015, 03:25 am »

Hi guys. Is the Bda-2 able to handle 24/192 files over the optical input. This would need to be my input of choice until I purchase a Bdp-2 as my current streamer only has a optical out for digital.

Thanks

James Tanner · « **Reply #834 on:** 25 Feb 2015, 08:22 am »

Quote from: bruinsfan72 on 25 Feb 2015, 03:25 am

Hi guys. Is the Bda-2 able to handle 24/192 files over the optical input. This would need to be my input of choice until I purchase a Bdp-2 as my current streamer only has a optical out for digital.

Thanks

Hi

Yes the Optical can do 192/24

james

Rod_S · « **Reply #835 on:** 25 Feb 2015, 01:03 pm »

Just make sure your SSP, pre-amp, etc. can accept 24/192 over optical as well because it may not. Also there is the reality that your SSP, pre-amp, etc. may not operate at that resolution internally, for example it may only run at 96/24 or even lower depending on how old it is.

Rod_S · « **Reply #836 on:** 25 Feb 2015, 01:05 pm »

Oops, never mind, you were talking about the BDA thus the output is analog so the SSP, pre-amp, etc. becomes irrelevant.

R. Daneel · « **Reply #837 on:** 25 Feb 2015, 04:16 pm »

The BDA-2 can do 24/192 on all inputs. This was one of the advantages for me when I was deciding which DAC to get. Most of other DACs could do only 24/96 or lower. Bryston locks onto the signal immediately and quality of cable or source plays no difference so I can only assume it's input receiver is highly effective. These are the things you cannot read in a manual or in a review but you certainly begin to appreciate them every day. I am not surprised the BDA series is popular among both audiophiles and professionals.

Cheers!
Antun

martydmnt · « **Reply #838 on:** 9 Mar 2015, 07:18 pm »

James, has any more consideration been given to updating the internal DAC card to handle 24/192? It's obviously can't have the flexibility of DSD without the USB or HDMI inputs, but would allow the highest resolution PCM files to be played. I think there was an old topic where the answer was somewhere between no and maybe, but I can't find it.

James Tanner · « **Reply #839 on:** 9 Mar 2015, 10:13 pm »

Quote from: martydmnt on 9 Mar 2015, 07:18 pm

James, has any more consideration been given to updating the internal DAC card to handle 24/192? It's obviously can't have the flexibility of DSD without the USB or HDMI inputs, but would allow the highest resolution PCM files to be played. I think there was an old topic where the answer was somewhere between no and maybe, but I can't find it.

Sorry - which internal DA are you referring to?

james