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Title: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 8 Dec 2013, 05:07 am
http://www.capitalaudiofest.com/
July 25-27, 2014

Lunches & Dinners as usual (the diner, the steakhouse, etc...)
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 8 Dec 2013, 01:52 pm
What happened to Mexican?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Big Red Machine on 8 Dec 2013, 02:48 pm
I'd like to go this year.  Is it crazy to try and do DC sightseeing at that time of year?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: tonyptony on 9 Dec 2013, 12:11 am
I was thinking of going to CAF this coming year since it seems for 2014 the Chester Group has pretty much guaranteed the NYAS will be a bust.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Phil A on 9 Dec 2013, 12:38 am
I'd like to go this year.  Is it crazy to try and do DC sightseeing at that time of year?

In July you will see tourists but not school tours.  So I'd think it would be decent.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 9 Dec 2013, 01:09 am
I'd like to go this year.  Is it crazy to try and do DC sightseeing at that time of year?
As long as hot and muggy doesn't bother you.

I will be there nerding out on audio gear again.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 29 Mar 2014, 04:30 pm
Got my email notice on March 14, you can hear the crickets on the MAAC lately.  Something about a CanMania room, sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: bunky on 29 Mar 2014, 08:56 pm
I will be there for the Audio fest and I look forward to getting a prime rib eye steak at Rays afterward :drool:
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 18 Jun 2014, 10:30 pm
I will be there for the Audio fest and I look forward to getting a prime rib eye steak at Rays afterward :drool:

Should we do it on Sunday again or have it on Friday or Saturday?

Lunch will be generally be at that café unless there is interest for most any chain bar-n-grill since they usually have lunch specials.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 10 Jul 2014, 10:27 pm
My guess is that most would look at Saturday as the best night to get together.  Just around the corner now, the excitement builds.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 11 Jul 2014, 01:05 am
Vinyl spinners in town for the show should check out Joe's Record Paradise five blocks up the street from the Sheraton on Georgia Ave. I have no "skin in the game" making this recommendation (don't even have a TT actually) but know of this old-school record store run by a real good dude. I'm sure he'd like the biz and you never know what you might find. www.joesrecordparadise.com

PS, there is another record shop called The Record Exchange that I can't vouch for, never having been there, but since they are literally right across the street from Joe's, check them out too.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: SeaNile on 11 Jul 2014, 02:31 am
Never been to one of these shows before. Since I'm interested in buying speakers, amp, processor is it worth it for me to attend?  Can I buy at this venue? Are the deals better than the usual shopping around?

Leaning towards Focal 1038 be2 or Ariel T7. Would like to hear a few more options in the 7-10k range.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: vinyl_lady on 11 Jul 2014, 03:52 am
Vinyl spinners in town for the show should check out Joe's Record Paradise five blocks up the street from the Sheraton on Georgia Ave. I have no "skin in the game" making this recommendation (don't even have a TT actually) but know of this old-school record store run by a real good dude. I'm sure he'd like the biz and you never know what you might find. www.joesrecordparadise.com

PS, there is another record shop called The Record Exchange that I can't vouch for, never having been there, but since they are literally right across the street from Joe's, check them out too.

Joe's is a good store. I've shopped there several times when in DC on business. I almost always find something. Large inventory too. I have not been to the record exchange.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: vinyl_lady on 11 Jul 2014, 03:55 am
Never been to one of these shows before. Since I'm interested in buying speakers, amp, processor is it worth it for me to attend?  Can I buy at this venue? Are the deals better than the usual shopping around?

Leaning towards Focal 1038 be2 or Ariel T7. Would like to hear a few more options in the 7-10k range.

Thanks.

Check out the Daedalus Audio speakers. Lou will have different models in two rooms with ModWright electronics.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 11 Jul 2014, 10:20 am
Never been to one of these shows before. Since I'm interested in buying speakers, amp, processor is it worth it for me to attend?  Can I buy at this venue? Are the deals better than the usual shopping around?

Leaning towards Focal 1038 be2 or Ariel T7. Would like to hear a few more options in the 7-10k range.

Thanks.

The deal(s), you'll have to ask, a lot of vendors have "show specials" because they'd be delighted for a customer to relieve them of the burden of taking the equipment home (and make a few shekels along the way; the name of the game). Win-win.

SeaNile, at your specified budget, agree with vinyl lady, make sure to hear the Daedalus speaks. Salk too.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 11 Jul 2014, 10:24 am
Joe's is a good store. I've shopped there several times when in DC on business. I almost always find something. Large inventory too. I have not been to the record exchange.

I havent either and only learned of them after looking up Joe's on the map. They're literally across the street from one another. Wonder how that works out. Whoever moved in 2nd had some nerve.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 11 Jul 2014, 11:18 pm
The deal(s), you'll have to ask, a lot of vendors have "show specials" because they'd be delighted for a customer to relieve them of the burden of taking the equipment home (and make a few shekels along the way; the name of the game). Win-win.

SeaNile, at your specified budget, agree with vinyl lady, make sure to hear the Daedalus speaks. Salk too.

I'd add DeVORE and Joseph Audio to the excellent suggestions above.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 12 Jul 2014, 07:39 am
Odyssey

Soundfield

Salk

Philharmonic
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: GT Audio Works on 12 Jul 2014, 01:42 pm
FYI...The exhibitors list for this years CAF lists me as an exhibitor in Rm 817.
While Triode Pete and Charlie from Rollo Audio will be there, I will not.
I believe the listing was never updated from 2013.
For those going to CAF and are interested in listening the latest GT Audio Works speaker follow the link to this thread
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=127315.new#new
                                                                                                    Greg
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 13 Jul 2014, 03:35 am
That's distressing. An inaccurate list helps no one, especially those going to see a particular mfr and they're not there? That would be enough to piss a person off.

Sorry to hear no GT... hopefully too busy getting out orders.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 13 Jul 2014, 05:30 am
Never been to one of these shows before. Since I'm interested in buying speakers, amp, processor is it worth it for me to attend?  Can I buy at this venue? Are the deals better than the usual shopping around?

Leaning towards Focal 1038 be2 or Ariel T7. Would like to hear a few more options in the 7-10k range.

Thanks.

Focal is carried locally by iq audio who is not participating this year AFAIK - and even at their store the highest end Focal demo is a 1008, so I think it's very unlikely you'll see / hear the 1038 demoed at CAF.

Ariel is carried by Command Performance AV, which is participating this year, but they are not demoing Ariel speakers, nor do they have a demo 7T at the store. They most likely could get you a good price on a pair of 7T if you called them or talked to them at the show.

The only thing that might be at the show in the category your looking at is the Salk Soundscape 8, which is a damn fine speaker, and presumably they would do a show special offer. But arrive and ask early as Salk stuff tends to sell fast.

Admission is cheap, so encourage you to participate regardless. And most exhibitors are willing and able to give you deals on shows demos. 
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Scottdazzle on 13 Jul 2014, 05:23 pm
Never been to one of these shows before. Since I'm interested in buying speakers, amp, processor is it worth it for me to attend?  Can I buy at this venue? Are the deals better than the usual shopping around?

Leaning towards Focal 1038 be2 or Ariel T7. Would like to hear a few more options in the 7-10k range.

Thanks.

Daedalus Audio will be presenting Lou Hinkley's newest model which is in your price range. It will be in the 6th floor ModWright/Daedalus/WyWires/Viva Hifi room. We will be using the ModWright Oppo 105 and VPI Traveler as sources.  Hope to see you there.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Scottdazzle on 13 Jul 2014, 05:28 pm
p.s. bring some musical selections you want to hear on vinyl, sacd, cd, or thumb drive.  :D
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: SeaNile on 13 Jul 2014, 07:11 pm
Pretty sure I will attend this event.  I'm still all over the place when it comes to the components and so far have the speakers narrowed down to Aerial 7T, Focal 1038be and the Salk SoundScape 8. 

Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 13 Jul 2014, 08:29 pm
Don't get too "set" too soon would be my advice (not that you're asking for it). You never know what you might hear there that might steer you in a different direction. The only one of your candidates that I have heard are the SoundScapes. I could live with those juuuust fiiiiine. Looking forward to hearing the new Daedalus. Their speaks have consistently been among the most musical at the show regardless of price.

Hope Van Alstine is at the show again.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: woodsyi on 15 Jul 2014, 11:06 pm
Should I make a group reservation at the
Classics steakhouse?  Sunday would be easier than Saturday for a large group.  Who is in?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: woodsyi on 15 Jul 2014, 11:21 pm
I see Klaus has a speaking gig on Friday.   I am sorry I will be missing it as I am sure it will be a hoot. :thumb:
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 16 Jul 2014, 04:38 am
Should I make a group reservation at the
Classics steakhouse?  Sunday would be easier than Saturday for a large group.  Who is in?

Me...
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 16 Jul 2014, 04:53 am
Should I make a group reservation at the
Classics steakhouse?  Sunday would be easier than Saturday for a large group.  Who is in?

I could do either Saturday lunch or dinner, or Sunday lunch.  Sunday at the end of show will probably have to assist packing up. Lunch is probably cheaper and easier to get reservations......
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 16 Jul 2014, 06:03 am
I could do either Saturday lunch or dinner, or Sunday lunch.  Sunday at the end of show will probably have to assist packing up. Lunch is probably cheaper and easier to get reservations......

You might as well pack up that morning. That seems what everybody else does on Sunday.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 16 Jul 2014, 07:50 am
Not that many will be hanging around Sunday evening.  Traditionally the large group whittles down to 5 or 6 even on Saturday night so I don't imagine reservations will be an issue.  Maybe we should do a headcount now?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 20 Jul 2014, 04:15 am
Should I make a group reservation at the
Classics steakhouse?  Sunday would be easier than Saturday for a large group.  Who is in?

We need to confirm.

Also, see if Klaus wants to attend as well.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: klaus@odyssey on 20 Jul 2014, 11:01 am
AbsofreakinglutelybetyoursweetassIamin. ..........1 vote for Saturday,  as I promised Irina a quiet and romantic Sunday night.........
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Big Red Machine on 20 Jul 2014, 02:34 pm
Sounds like fun. Is saturday a better choice considering folks leave on sunday?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 20 Jul 2014, 06:26 pm
There are two contingents in the MAAC, those local to DC and those traveling some distance.  For the locals either Sunday or Saturday works and obviously travelers are leaving Sunday afternoon.  Being in the latter camp, Saturday is about the only option for me.  For choice of restaurants, I follow wherever the local crowd leads.

PS:  Meeting at the bar next to the lobby at some specified time, say 6 pm or something like that, always seems to work well.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 20 Jul 2014, 08:04 pm
There are two contingents in the MAAC, those local to DC and those traveling some distance.  For the locals either Sunday or Saturday works and obviously travelers are leaving Sunday afternoon.  Being in the latter camp, Saturday is about the only option for me.  For choice of restaurants, I follow wherever the local crowd leads.

PS:  Meeting at the bar next to the lobby at some specified time, say 6 pm or something like that, always seems to work well.

The raffle drawing is at six-ish...
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 20 Jul 2014, 09:05 pm
Sounds good to me, meet at the raffle drawing.  Now, who's going?

HEAD COUNT!
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Big Red Machine on 20 Jul 2014, 09:05 pm
Is there a download for the rooms to help plan ahead for visiting rooms or just the list on the show site?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: klaus@odyssey on 20 Jul 2014, 09:32 pm
Q. to the locals:


I have to ship some gear via SWA cargo...which one is easier to get to and more accessible from Silver Springs:  Dulles or RR airports ???

Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Phil A on 20 Jul 2014, 10:15 pm
Q. to the locals:


I have to ship some gear via SWA cargo...which one is easier to get to and more accessible from Silver Springs:  Dulles or RR airports ???

RR is about a third of the distance (in miles) vs. Dulles or BWI
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 21 Jul 2014, 05:22 am
Q. to the locals:


I have to ship some gear via SWA cargo...which one is easier to get to and more accessible from Silver Springs:  Dulles or RR airports ???

If it's Southwest Airlines Cargo, your going to have many more direct flights options between Indianapolis and Baltimore (BWI) than the Reagan (DCA).  I don't think SWA flies direct to Dulles (IAD) and it's just as far as BWI.  So would definitely do BWI or DCA.  DCA is the best as a passenger, but probably the most expensive.  The terminal is smaller / faster + you have metro right in front of the terminal that can take you to Silver Spring if you want it.  Taxi to Silver Spring is probably $30 from DCA (?).  Or let one of us locals know & maybe we can give you a lift if your flying in. 

Hope that helps. 
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 21 Jul 2014, 05:24 am
Klaus, Woodsyi, Leitroll, Mix4fix et al : think we should make a reservation for at least 8 at 7pm.  Should I handle it, or does someone else want to? 

PhilA : you coming this year?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Phil A on 21 Jul 2014, 02:23 pm

PhilA : you coming this year?

Jon - no.  More or less just goetting things in order.  Got my Odyssey Rack (probably around 350 lbs) about 6-7 weeks ago and sat until I got help to put it together a couple of weeks after that, put away the boxes of stuff and sold one thing and ordered another.  So I'm just about to the point where everything will be set up and cleaned up in a week or two.  Just not enough time to plan this time.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 21 Jul 2014, 02:32 pm
Klaus, Woodsyi, Leitroll, Mix4fix et al : think we should make a reservation for at least 8 at 7pm.  Should I handle it, or does someone else want to? 

PhilA : you coming this year?

Yes, seems like you've volunteered, lol.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: oledude on 21 Jul 2014, 03:08 pm
Looks like I am going to make it to CAF. Perhaps if I hang in Klaus' rooms I can meet everyone along the way. Looking forward to hearing the new set ups, too Best
 Eric
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 21 Jul 2014, 03:44 pm
Yes, seems like you've volunteered, lol.

So I did! 

Pretty sure we'll be at least 8 between Klaus, Irina, Woodsyi, Mix4fix, you, me and perhaps Pansixt & Bunky (?). 

I could see it growing quite a bit more from there - but we can take it as it comes.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: vinyl_lady on 21 Jul 2014, 03:55 pm
I will be there on Saturday for sure and maybe Sunday. Look forward to seeing everyone and meeting some new ACers. I'll be bringing some rock n roll tunes so I don't have to listen to jazz. :P

I may be able to join the group Saturday night. Will let you know for sure before the week is out.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: woodsyi on 21 Jul 2014, 04:02 pm
So I did! 

Pretty sure we'll be at least 8 between Klaus, Irina, Woodsyi, Mix4fix, you, me and perhaps Pansixt & Bunky (?). 

I could see it growing quite a bit more from there - but we can take it as it comes.

Thanks John,

Now we have to see if the Classics kept the same menu as Ray's with the big steaks. 8)
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 21 Jul 2014, 04:03 pm
Jon - no.  More or less just goetting things in order.  Got my Odyssey Rack (probably around 350 lbs) about 6-7 weeks ago and sat until I got help to put it together a couple of weeks after that, put away the boxes of stuff and sold one thing and ordered another.  So I'm just about to the point where everything will be set up and cleaned up in a week or two.  Just not enough time to plan this time.

Are you completely moved and gone?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Phil A on 21 Jul 2014, 04:14 pm
Are you completely moved and gone?

Some would argue I've been gone a long time :lol: :lol:  Actually moved whatever furniture was left just before the beginning of the year and was back and forth for brief periods to check on the VA house until it closed around the middle of February.  I took apart the main system in the beginning of November and moved some things myself around Thanksgiving and shipped other things via Fedex around the same time.  Left some items for the couple of trips I made back to VA and basically was just two car loads and also started to organize/unpack the stuff in FL.  First time in 36 years I've had a house with no basement so it took about two and half months just to get that organized.  The main system is more or less together (waiting on one thing) and most of the rest of the stuff is set up waiting for a tweak here or there.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: woodsyi on 21 Jul 2014, 04:27 pm
Is there a download for the rooms to help plan ahead for visiting rooms or just the list on the show site?

It's not that big, Pete.  You don't need a map - no separate wings.

I gather you are coming.  It will be good to see you.  I haven't seen you around in a couple of years. 
BTW, is it just Jim or is Mary coming?  My daughter wants to know.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Big Red Machine on 21 Jul 2014, 04:34 pm
It's not that big, Pete.  You don't need a map - no separate wings.

I gather you are coming.  It will be good to see you.  I haven't seen you around in a couple of years. 
BTW, is it just Jim or is Mary coming?  My daughter wants to know.

She wasn't planing to attend but she may have changed her mind.  My wife and my daughter are coming so that may influence Mary to come a little, or she might need a weekend to herself.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 21 Jul 2014, 04:36 pm
Thanks John,

Now we have to see if the Classics kept the same menu as Ray's with the big steaks. 8)

Definitely the same menu :

http://www.theclassicsdc.com/images/Dinner%20Menu%20%2012-30-13.pdf

Still can't decide between the cowboy cut, porterhouse, or strip steak....... :drool:

And even if Ray's no longer overseeing from afar, I'm expecting them to maintain the same standard.

Reservations open @ 2pm.  I foresee we're gonna have more than 8......but we can hopefully revise as necessary. If folks looking at this thread think they'll want to join in, please post it.

Phil : we'll keep a seat open in your honor - too bad you can't make it this year. 
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 21 Jul 2014, 04:45 pm
Definitely the same menu :

http://www.theclassicsdc.com/images/Dinner%20Menu%20%2012-30-13.pdf

Still can't decide between the cowboy cut, porterhouse, or strip steak....... :drool:

And even if Ray's no longer overseeing from afar, I'm expecting them to maintain the same standard.

Reservations open @ 2pm.  I foresee we're gonna have more than 8......but we can hopefully revise as necessary. If folks looking at this thread think they'll want to join in, please post it.

Phil : we'll keep a seat open in your honor - too bad you can't make it this year.

If you see Gordon Ramsey yelling, you know we are in trouble...
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: woodsyi on 21 Jul 2014, 05:16 pm
She wasn't planing to attend but she may have changed her mind.  My wife and my daughter are coming so that may influence Mary to come a little, or she might need a weekend to herself.

When are you coming in?  Maybe we can get together before the show.  When you do the Mall and the Smithsonians, take your meals at either the National Gallery or the Native American Museum.  Air and Space is Micky D and others aren't much to speak of.  I can tell you where all the good eats are in DC if you want to know.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Big Red Machine on 21 Jul 2014, 06:15 pm
When are you coming in?  Maybe we can get together before the show.  When you do the Mall and the Smithsonians, take your meals at either the National Gallery or the Native American Museum.  Air and Space is Micky D and others aren't much to speak of.  I can tell you where all the good eats are in DC if you want to know.

I'm just coming for the show, so Thursday night late and out on Sunday morning.  If we can do a drive by at the white house or something on Friday or Saturday that might be cool.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Q3Di on 21 Jul 2014, 09:36 pm
I never went to this show. Last year was the first time I heard about this show and I am local (Baltimore). I might get there this Sat or Sun.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 22 Jul 2014, 01:51 am
Folks - made a reservation for 8 at 8pm.  It was that or 6:30, and that seemed to soon for those wanting to go the raffle or who are working the show. 

At this point I'm assuming the following :

Klaus + Irina
Woodsyi
Mix4fix
Pansixt
Leitroll
Bunky
Myself

Maximum at one table is 12-14.  If anyone else wants to join this table / reservation, please let me know by this Thursday at the latest so I can modify the reservation.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 22 Jul 2014, 03:00 am
I never went to this show. Last year was the first time I heard about this show and I am local (Baltimore). I might get there this Sat or Sun.
If you go on Sunday, go EARLY. Exhibitors want to get out of Dodge by then and many are starting to break down their setups by mid afternoon.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 22 Jul 2014, 03:10 am
Sad but true - official closing is at 4pm Sunday, and many are already packing before then and out the door by four. Otherwise Sunday and Friday are the better days to go to beat the crowds.  Sunday may be the best as some exhibitors have finally dialed in the sound by then. 
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 22 Jul 2014, 03:19 am
Folks - made a reservation for 8 at 8pm.  It was that or 6:30, and that seemed to soon for those wanting to go the raffle or who are working the show. 


Good decision, more time for drinks.  Oh, maybe we should arrange for designated drivers.   :D

I wonder if AJ still wanted to come, I'll send him a PM, oops, "cannot receive messages", okay then, never mind.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 22 Jul 2014, 04:05 am
The restaurant also has a bar area......so things could potentially start there before the dinner reservation hour.........

I'm staying at the show hotel - but anyone is welcome to be the designated sherpa to haul me back - or maybe catch a piggy back ride w/ Klaus  :icon_lol:

If AJ comes we can have fun talking about Hi FI fuses..... :wink:
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 22 Jul 2014, 02:27 pm
oops
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 22 Jul 2014, 02:39 pm
Sad but true - official closing is at 4pm Sunday, and many are already packing before then and out the door by four. Otherwise Sunday and Friday are the better days to go to beat the crowds.  Sunday may be the best as some exhibitors have finally dialed in the sound by then.
If you want to drive a bargain, you may have a little more leverage then too. It's a roll of the dice.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 22 Jul 2014, 03:27 pm
If you want to drive a bargain, you may have a little more leverage then too. It's a roll of the dice.

Again - wise words - I've done just that at the last two shows.  Sometimes it was the vendor himself who drove it. 

I actually miss the swap meet room - I know it doesn't scream "high end audio show" but picked up some nice stuff that way. 
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Hadro on 22 Jul 2014, 05:03 pm
I am still not clear on what day at 8:00 will be the get together?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 22 Jul 2014, 05:19 pm
I am still not clear on what day at 8:00 will be the get together?

Saturday July 26th @ 8PM for dinner at The Classic's Silver Spring steakhouse just around the corner from the show hotel.  Current reservation is for 8 - and I expect all 8 will likely show up.  If someone wants to join that group, best to let me know by this Thursday so I can change the reservation #. 
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 22 Jul 2014, 05:42 pm
I tried reaching out to Roscoe (and others from the DIY group) but nobody is responding to the thread.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 22 Jul 2014, 06:11 pm
I tried reaching out to Roscoe (and others from the DIY group) but nobody is responding to the thread.

Their loss.  The Classic's steaks can't be beat for the money - and how can you beat the company?   8)
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Hadro on 22 Jul 2014, 11:10 pm
Count me in!
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 22 Jul 2014, 11:43 pm
Add "tomp" from DIY.

What about Scottdazzle?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 23 Jul 2014, 03:12 am
So that's +2 for the reservation? Hadro & "tomp"?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Hadro on 23 Jul 2014, 01:15 pm

Yes for me.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 24 Jul 2014, 04:38 pm
Their loss.  The Classic's steaks can't be beat for the money - and how can you beat the company?   8)

What time should we do lunch?

What about dinner on the other nights?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 24 Jul 2014, 05:05 pm
Pending - Roscoe of DIY

David Berning (http://www.davidberning.com - maker of tube amps) would like to attend as well.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 24 Jul 2014, 10:12 pm
I vote for that great little Mexican restaurant for lunch on Saturday. It's like two blocks away and I thought it was great.  Mas cervesas!

For myself I'm only there for Saturday and Sunday, so just one dinner tab for me.  I think several members will be there on Friday.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 24 Jul 2014, 10:30 pm
I vote for that great little Mexican restaurant for lunch on Saturday. It's like two blocks away and I thought it was great.  Mas cervesas!

For myself I'm only there for Saturday and Sunday, so just one dinner tab for me.  I think several members will be there on Friday.

No.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Saturn94 on 24 Jul 2014, 10:48 pm
Odyssey

Soundfield

Salk

Philharmonic

+1

I'm a happy Soundfield owner. :)
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 24 Jul 2014, 11:16 pm
No.

Haha, well, that's one opinion.   :lol:
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: vinyl_lady on 24 Jul 2014, 11:23 pm
Haha, well, that's one opinion.   :lol:

Pumpkinman, ET Carroll and I ate lunch at the Mexican place last year and it was pretty good. I would go back.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 25 Jul 2014, 03:22 am
Pumpkinman, ET Carroll and I ate lunch at the Mexican place last year and it was pretty good. I would go back.

Mi Rancho  - had dinner there tonight. Still good. I recommend the chicken taquitos (flautas).
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 25 Jul 2014, 04:18 am
+1

I'm a happy Soundfield owner. :)
Missed their room last year somehow. Hope they're there this year.

My plan this year is similar to last: Concentrate on the headphones early on while rooms are getting 'dialed in', then branch out. The headphone exhibitors are lucky to be immune from room issues.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: bunky on 25 Jul 2014, 07:21 am
 I have to work on Saturday but I should be able to make it down there in time for dinner  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 25 Jul 2014, 05:30 pm
Missed their room last year somehow. Hope they're there this year.

My plan this year is similar to last: Concentrate on the headphones early on while rooms are getting 'dialed in', then branch out. The headphone exhibitors are lucky to be immune from room issues.

I don't see AJ on the exhibitors list this year, unless I missed it.

And for the first year I'll be shopping headphones, maybe see you there.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: AJinFLA on 25 Jul 2014, 05:58 pm
Couldn't make it this year, too busy. Stuck with Phil in FL, though not in any basement.  :wink:
Maybe next year....
Have a Newcastle for me Dan.
Anyone know what room Rollo's in?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: pumpkinman on 25 Jul 2014, 06:10 pm
I'm leaving for etcarroll's at 2:30 and spend the night there. This will be easier on my back as it'll be a short drive to CAF in the morning.
Looking forward to seeing Gene, Laura and others tomorrow. Laura lunch again at Mi Rancho's sounds great.  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: 
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 25 Jul 2014, 07:36 pm
AJ we'll miss ya this year.  Rollo is in with...damn, can't remember, Triode Pete maybe, it's on the list of exhibitors on the CAF website.

So we have a quorum for lunch on Saturday at the Mexican place.  What time?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: woodsyi on 25 Jul 2014, 09:15 pm
I should be there there around noon  Saturday after my round of golf.  Maybe I come to Mi Rancho for lunch first if the time is right.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 25 Jul 2014, 09:39 pm
AJ we'll miss ya this year.  Rollo is in with...damn, can't remember, Triode Pete maybe, it's on the list of exhibitors on the CAF website.

So we have a quorum for lunch on Saturday at the Mexican place.  What time?

No....
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: HAL on 25 Jul 2014, 10:15 pm
Hope to see some of you folks there Saturday!

Driving up in the morning and should be there around 11AM.  Just going for the day with some local friends.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: vinyl_lady on 25 Jul 2014, 10:58 pm
No....

Why are you opposed to Mi Rancho? Seems we have 5 or 6 who give it the thumbs up for lunch on Saturday.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 26 Jul 2014, 12:21 am
MY CAF DAY ONE

Some thoughts from the show

These Hawthorne open baffles with AMT mid/tweeter sounded really nice in an all digital system. Can't get the vertical pics to orient properly, sorry.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102790)

These mictro monitors sounded good but definitely benefit from a sub. Didn't write the name down but they were in the Command AV room.
Vanadoo had some nice powered mini monitors with interesting feature set.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102791)

These Kingsound 'stats caught my eye and were VERY comfortable... but didn't catch my ear; not much low end

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102792)

A couple of ostentatious headphone amps

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102793)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102794)

And one REALLY ostentatious headphone amp. This thing was HUGE. Didn't inquire as to the price but it was twice the size of a Dyna ST-70. An integrated with a headphone out?

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102795)

Despite the name, the Blue Hawaii headamp is actually purple. Go figure.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102796)

Random:
Glad to see them supporting the headphone side, but despite the expansive space, there seemed to be more  variety in amps than 'phones. This struck me immediately: The place was awash in planars. Hifiman was everywhere, Audeze was everywhere, the various "Dogs" were almost everywhere. Oppo had both their models on display and very nice sounding but on the warm/dark side (think HD650). Grado was all over the place and there were HD800s all over. HD700 doesn't seem "built to the price" to me but YMMV. Got to hear the Beyer T1 for the first time and was impressed. All the planars I have heard seem very tight in mids and treble but a little loose in the very deep bass (Some say planar drivers resonate at low frequencies, maybe that's what I heard? CTM offered to let me try one of their IEMs with a generic tip, but I'll pass on sharing something that has been in any human orifice aside from my own or a significant other's. Biggest surprise from CanMania: Had hoped to see/hear AKG K712/K812 but nobody was showing any AKG cans of any type. Did they go out of business???

The smaller Daedalus room was making great music from the new Muse towers; good voicing, driver integration, and imaging, particularly front-to-back, so much so that at one point I looked behind the speakers to see if there was a rear facing driver. There isn't. Scottdazzle gave me generous play time on both CD and vinyl and was a great host.
No pics though, speaking of which, sorry about the cellphone pics.

I learned that I don't "grok" fullrange and/or single driver speakers. While they do the 'coherence' thing well, all models I have heard suffer from colorations (which I attribute at least partly to inevitable cone breakup from having to operate full range) and limited dynamic range (they 'compress' at relatively moderate SPLs). To each his own. My equipment isn't perfect either...






Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 26 Jul 2014, 03:50 am
Why are you opposed to Mi Rancho? Seems we have 5 or 6 who give it the thumbs up for lunch on Saturday.

Mix4fix hates Mexican restaurants.

I'd go again. When are people heading over there?

If no time has been assigned shall we say 1230pm?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 26 Jul 2014, 04:00 am
Any more pics?  :D
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 26 Jul 2014, 11:08 am
Mix4fix hates Mexican restaurants.

I'd go again. When are people heading over there?

If no time has been assigned shall we say 1230pm?

I like that.  Either be there then or some can meet in the lobby at 12:20 or so and walk over.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 26 Jul 2014, 12:30 pm
Any more pics?  :D
Somebody musta took some! I will try to grab a few more but given the Tales From The Crypt lighting favored by many exhibitors, and whatever it is that makes my iphone verticals come out turned 90 degrees, a Real Camera (I dont want to take my DSLR) might give better results.

BTW it shouldn't be too hard to pick me out from my "selfie" with the King Sound cans even though you can't see my ruggedly handsome face; feel free to say hi. Will probably check out the "headphone meet" today with my modded HD650's.

Tried to upload a panorama of "CanMania" to no avail. Will try again later; leaving for the show now.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 26 Jul 2014, 12:32 pm
Works for me.  Looking forward to seeing everyone and getting some good Mexican grub.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Phil A on 26 Jul 2014, 02:46 pm
Mix4fix hates Mexican restaurants.



Yes - he won't even be seen in one - see below in the Mexican place from last yeaar


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=84243)
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 26 Jul 2014, 04:34 pm
So where is everyone?
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 27 Jul 2014, 12:29 am
Here I am with the venerable HD600's, driven by the Schiit Valhalla
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102859)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102875)

Hifiman's new planars were quite nice, very light as planars go
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102860)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102862)

Finally worked up the nerve to listen to the Stax 009's. Now I need a "Powerball intervention":
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102874)

It took almost two days, but I finally found a set of AKG cans (K702) in the building, in an out-of-the-way corner far from canMania:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102876)



Apparently, not all audiophiles can read:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102863)

Jim Salk(Salk Signature Sound) and Dennis Murphy (Philharmonic Audio) were getting great sound, Best-Of-Show contender to my ears, but they didn't bring enough speakers  :roll:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102864)

A closer view of their gear: The Van Alstine CF preamp  and FetValve 600R, flanked by DMurphy's Philharmonic minitowers and the mindblowing Salk Exoticas and SoundScape S8's (Dennis' excellent Philharmonic 3's not shown)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102872)


Heard Dennis' modded Pioneers and these little standmounts had me floored (how's that for an audio pun)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102866)


"The Clue" was making great music at a price that would be the bang-for-the-buck champ were it not for the Murphy-modded BS22's. Some weight on top and/or plasticlay inside would quiet the somehat resonant enclosure (they get 28Hz out of this puppy!) down
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102867)

As usual, Daedalus was impressive, although I found the smaller, simpler system more musical:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102868)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102869)

These behemoths, which take up almost 20 sq. ft. of floor space each, were an early contender for lowest WAF
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102870)

But they were beaten soundly in the end by the Sadhumi horns:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102871)

Lastly, apparently even 1.5WPC microwatt systems need garden hose sized speaker cables:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102873)






Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: etcarroll on 27 Jul 2014, 12:41 am
I have to second the opinion on the smaller Daedalus room, my 2 fav speakers were the Muse and Klaus's Kismet Reference floorstanders. Enjoyed lunch at Mi Rancho, and delighted in seeing Laura do her Monty Python 'run away' impression when ScottDazzle put on DaftPunk album.

Gene

As usual, Daedalus was impressive, although I found the smaller, simpler system more musical:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102868)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102869)

Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: HAL on 27 Jul 2014, 12:42 am
Had a fine time today at the show.  Stopped in many of the rooms for a listen, but did not take pictures.   Met up with a lot of the MAAC folks in the halls and rooms along the way.

Viva HiFi in 610 is using a HAL MS-2 Music Server as the digital player into the moded Oppo player.  The digital and phono setups sounded very good in the room into the Mod Wright and Daedalus setup. 

Heard a few other good sounding setups during the day, so it was a fun time.   
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: dB Cooper on 27 Jul 2014, 12:53 am
I have to second the opinion on the smaller Daedalus room, my 2 fav speakers were the Muse and Klaus's Kismet Reference floorstanders.
Gene
Yeah, those were (as Odyssey usually is) outstanding, all the more so considering the price. Their little standmounts were impressive too but were being driven by what sounded like a clipping amplifier during an overzealous demo while I was there. No such problem with the tower system. "The Clue" was a contender for me too, as were Salk's awesome Exoticas if someone wants to provide me with a blank check...

I saw other cameras there!!! Let's see some more pics!
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 27 Jul 2014, 04:53 am
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102881)

The "Steve Carty" Cowboy Cut - a giant bone-in rib eye :drool:


Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 27 Jul 2014, 04:58 am

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102882)

A Great Steak for a Great Man. Klaus / Odyssey Audio
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 27 Jul 2014, 05:03 am

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102884)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=102883)

The usual suspects. The Classics Restaurant, Silver Spring, MD, Sat 26 July post CAF.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jarcher on 27 Jul 2014, 05:05 am
PhillA - we left a space open in your honor next to Bunky. Next year please fill it!
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Phil A on 27 Jul 2014, 03:42 pm
PhillA - we left a space open in your honor next to Bunky. Next year please fill it!

Jon - thanks :green:
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 27 Jul 2014, 06:56 pm
Wow what an awesome talk with Klaus from Odessey Audio joined later by Matthew from VPI, Scott from Part Time Audiophile, and the guy from Fiekert tonearms who's name escapes me.  What an informative 2 hrs.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: mix4fix on 27 Jul 2014, 09:56 pm
I have to work on Saturday but I should be able to make it down there in time for dinner  :thumb: :thumb:

If you want Klaus's bookshelves/stands, call him.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: jdavies on 28 Jul 2014, 01:37 am
Wow what an awesome talk with Klaus from Odessey Audio joined later by Matthew from VPI, Scott from Part Time Audiophile, and the guy from Fiekert tonearms who's name escapes me.  What an informative 2 hrs.

Were there any particularly memorable insights?   Sorry I wasn't able to be there.
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Letitroll98 on 28 Jul 2014, 03:21 am
Were there any particularly memorable insights?   Sorry I wasn't able to be there.

Kinda hard to distill two hours into a couple of paragraphs.  Iraina did video tape the whole talk so maybe a replay on his website.  I can say it wasn't technical as Klaus isn't a designer, it was split into two main topics, room setup and the audio business, with a quick blurb about Klaus's beginnings in the Audio business.  There was only about ten or fifteen of us so we just circled the chairs and had a chat around the campfire. 
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 2 Aug 2014, 07:04 pm
Here's a six minute video from "AVShowReports" with Darrel and Diana Hawthorne of Hawthorne Audio with their new speakers run by "Core Audio Technology" equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCRJgCJn0B0

Bob

p.s. "Yes". This is a shill post. ;)
Title: Re: Capitol Audio Fest 2014
Post by: Part-Time Audiophile on 3 Aug 2014, 02:02 am
Wow what an awesome talk with Klaus from Odessey Audio joined later by Matthew from VPI, Scott from Part Time Audiophile, and the guy from Fiekert tonearms who's name escapes me.  What an informative 2 hrs.

For the record, that was Frank Schröder of Schröder Tonearms (http://schroeder-tonarme.de). Great guy and his tonearms are legend.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=103258)

Klaus is fun and I still can't get over the sound he offers at the price that he offers it .... Anyway, more from the show coming soon (http://parttimeaudiophile.com/tag/caf/). In the meantime, here's Klaus giving a salute to those willing to spend more in order to get less:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=103259)

And here's another shot, right before Klaus crushed me like a old soda can.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=103260)