are we expecting a 30-80w class AB amp soon?

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are we expecting a 30-80w class AB amp soon?
« on: 3 Aug 2012, 01:01 pm »
are we expecting a 30-80w class AB amp soon?

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« Reply #1 on: 6 Aug 2012, 04:59 pm »
are we expecting a 30-80w class AB amp soon?

This is on the burner!  Hopefully will be released by end of 2012...

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« Reply #2 on: 6 Aug 2012, 07:45 pm »
Hybrid? Like your new monoblocks.

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« Reply #3 on: 6 Aug 2012, 07:51 pm »
Hybrid? Like your new monoblocks.

Ohhh, yes!  Class A tube input, AB discrete FET output stage for each channel.  Don't quote me yet, but the power should be a clean 50-60 watts RMS into 8-ohm, and like the Lilianas, it will double into 4-ohms (100-120 watts RMS into 4-ohm).  2-ohm stable.

Options and pricing are still in the works... but I'll post updates when that all becomes available.  8)

Thanks for your interest,

Vinnie

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« Reply #4 on: 6 Aug 2012, 08:02 pm »
price point? best guess is fine.

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« Reply #5 on: 7 Aug 2012, 10:40 am »
Would owners of 30.2 be able to upgrade into this newer units?

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« Reply #6 on: 7 Aug 2012, 02:16 pm »
All,

Product options, pricing, and possible trade-in credit are all still in the works... but I'll post updates when that all becomes available. 

Thanks for your patience,

Vinnie

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Re: are we expecting a 30-80w class AB amp soon?
« Reply #7 on: 27 Nov 2012, 12:28 pm »
eagerly waiting

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« Reply #8 on: 27 Nov 2012, 04:58 pm »
eagerly waiting

Signature 60 still in the works, guys - but it will have the option for our dac, phonostage, and/or headphone stage -
making it reference-level, one-box solution!

We'll definitely be using a larger enclosure for this one!

The base integrated price will be just under $4k.  Pricing for options TBD.  This one will be released 1st quarter
next year.  Before that (as in a few weeks) - we have big announcements to make, so it won't be long now!  8)

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Re: are we expecting a 30-80w class AB amp soon?
« Reply #9 on: 27 Nov 2012, 08:39 pm »
Sounds great, Vinnie!  Good luck with the new product.

If you provide preamp outputs on the unit, may I suggest that you include the unity gain/12db gain switch?  That was something I really wished was available on the Sig 15.  I use it on my Isabella all the time.

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« Reply #10 on: 28 Nov 2012, 10:38 am »
Hi Vinnie, will this be a 30.2 replacement or are you planning on updating the 30.2 all on its own? Thanks.

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« Reply #11 on: 28 Nov 2012, 03:20 pm »
Hi autoformer,

The 12dB line-output would require a tube preamp stage like the Isabella.  The tube buffer that we use on our other
products (including the upcoming Sig 60) only provides current gain (not voltage gain), so it is 0dB.  Adding in a preamp
stage like the Isabella would make the price much higher...

Hi mrarroyo,

The Signature 30.2 will be discontinued.  The Signature 60 replaces the Sig 30.2, but it is an entirely different design (it uses
the Liliana Monoblock boards).  The Sig 60 will also be offered as a stereo power amp for those who already have a preamp.
The Signature 60 is positioned to be between the Signature 16 and the Liliana Monoblocks in our amplifier line.

Best regards,

Vinnie

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Re: are we expecting a 30-80w class AB amp soon?
« Reply #12 on: 28 Nov 2012, 04:00 pm »
Hi Vinnie

Got your email about Liliana Monoblocks. Very exited for next week :thumb:

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« Reply #13 on: 26 Jan 2013, 09:06 am »
Will the Signature 60 come available in a mono block configuration? Perhaps something in the Renaissance Edition range between a set of mono configured Signature 16s and the Lilianas?  Thanks.


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« Reply #14 on: 28 Jan 2013, 03:03 am »
Hi Pasture68,

Welcome to Audiocircle and the RWA forum!

We initially plan to offer the Signature 60 as an Integrated Amp and Stereo Power amp.  Monoblock versions will be taken into consideration.

All the best,

Vinnie

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« Reply #15 on: 30 Jan 2013, 12:14 am »
Hi Pasture68,

Welcome to Audiocircle and the RWA forum!

We initially plan to offer the Signature 60 as an Integrated Amp and Stereo Power amp.  Monoblock versions will be taken into consideration.

All the best,

Vinnie

Hi Vinnie

Thanks for the warm welcome. 

My question came from a desire to have 50-80 watts driving my speakers.  So....    something between mono'd Sig 16s and Lilianas.

I'm excited about the new products. Being off the grid is an inspired approach to amplifier design IMHO.  I own Harbeth C7es-3 speakers. I understand there was great synergy between the Signature 16 and Harbeth Monitor 30.1s at a recent audio show.  Not just for the musicality of the combination, I'd love to have cherry-finished RWA mono power amps.  A speaker-amp combo with matching wood finish would look as great as it might sound.

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« Reply #16 on: 31 Jan 2013, 01:39 am »
Hi Pasture68,

Yes, we had a great show in Vegas with Fidelis AV (the USA importer of Harbeth)!  The owner, Walter Swanbon, has heard a prototype version of the Signature 60.  It really gels with the Harbeth line-up, as well as many other speakers. 

We've been so busy that we probably won't have the Signature 60 available until late March / early April - but it will be well worth the wait!

Yes - the Cherry finish would be the way to go with the cherry C7's!  :thumb:

Vinnie

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« Reply #17 on: 31 Jan 2013, 02:20 am »
BTW: In case you have not seen this for the show with Harbeth, RWA got a "Best of Show" from The Absolute Sound...

Best Sound (for the lowest price): … Harbeth monitor 30.1 loudspeakers ($5,990/pr) driven by Red Wine Audio’s battery-powered electronics.

Click and scroll to bottom of page >>  http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/ces-2013-show-report-tube-gear/

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« Reply #18 on: 31 Jan 2013, 10:21 pm »
BTW: In case you have not seen this for the show with Harbeth, RWA got a "Best of Show" from The Absolute Sound...

Best Sound (for the lowest price): … Harbeth monitor 30.1 loudspeakers ($5,990/pr) driven by Red Wine Audio’s battery-powered electronics.

Click and scroll to bottom of page >>  http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/ces-2013-show-report-tube-gear/

Hi Alwayswantmore.  Thanks for pointing it out.  Congrats to Vinnie and the RWA team for this gong.  Alan Shaw (Harbeth designer) appears to have a special gift for voicing transparent, neutral and musical loudspeakers. I have worked in high-end audio sales for some years (in past times) and find the C7s non-fatiguing and lyrical; they're really great speakers.  I have no connection to any audio business today. But I'm now left with champagne tastes and a beer budget.

It's exciting to see a "modest" integrated Signature 16 team well with Harbeth 30.1s - an amp one third the value of the speakers.

Perhaps a genuine value for money proposition on the RWA side of the amp/speaker combination ......  I think this speaks well for the new RE line.   

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« Reply #19 on: 12 Mar 2013, 12:15 am »
Thanks, guys!

We'll be at the NY Audio Show (April 11 - 13) in room 1010 - and decided to pair up with the Harbeth 30.1s again.  They really sound like
magic with the Red Wine Audio gear and the USA importer of Harbeth, Fidelis AV, couldn't agree more about this and word has gotten out
to Alan Shaw.  8)

I hope many of you can come visit to listen!

Best regards,

Vinnie