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Title: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 20 Sep 2022, 02:10 pm
two weeks under our belts and the Bills and Eagles look mighty good !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 20 Sep 2022, 02:33 pm
Josh Allen looks really good, which everyone expected.  Jalen Hurts looks really good, which no one expected.  While here in West Central PA all we can hear above the roar is "Kenny, Kenny, Kenny!"
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 20 Sep 2022, 02:44 pm
Josh Allen looks really good, which everyone expected.

agreed, given the talent around him


 
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Jalen Hurts looks really good, which no one expected.

disagree, with the off season acquisition of Brown(to compliment Hurts like Diggs/Allen in Bflo) and Hurts hard nosed work ethics this off season it was expected here in SE Pa !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 20 Sep 2022, 03:16 pm
agree

josh allen and the bills look like the team to beat... think only kc can give them real competition if they (and josh) can stay healthy

jalen hurts is soooo good now... wow!!!... what a leap from last year... so nice to see a kid put it together like that and make such strides
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 21 Sep 2022, 01:16 am
Bills have outscored their opponents thru two games 72-17...with Josh Allen leaving yesterday's game late in the third quarter.  And maybe, just maybe throw in a punt.  Now add an improved, deeper defense.  Plus JA makes his teammates perform better too.  That's an esoteric, intangible quality which is amazing to watch.  Gotta say frontrunner for sure.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 21 Sep 2022, 07:52 pm
agree

josh allen and the bills look like the team to beat... think only kc can give them real competition if they (and josh) can stay healthy

ahhhh KC, most of you young guys have the recent memories of the past couple of years, I go back to them beating the Bills for the right to play in the first Super Bowl ('66). the 'sting' continues.........

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jalen hurts is soooo good now... wow!!!... what a leap from last year... so nice to see a kid put it together like that and make such strides

Agreed, I know there is 15 games to go and playoffs but the Eagles appear to be for real !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 21 Sep 2022, 08:37 pm
That could be with the Eagles as they are currently tied with the Giants in first place.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 21 Sep 2022, 09:31 pm
That could be with the Eagles as they are currently tied with the Giants in first place.

 I like the Eagles chances better than the G-men !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 22 Sep 2022, 12:29 am
I was surprised to see the Giants actually beat somebody.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 22 Sep 2022, 10:05 am
Just a cation that we only have two games under our belt, a lot of season left to go.  The odds makers and I are expecting a Steeler loss tonight, which will make this town go absolutely nuts.  The fans here are used to Patriot loses, even without the Goat we remember the laundry, but Cleveland?  On national TV?  Women will rant their clothes, men will shave their heads, cats and dogs will howl, no work will be done on Friday in the city of Pittsburgh, and across the entirety of western Pennsyltucky will arise the cry, "Kenny! Kenny! Kenny!"
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 22 Sep 2022, 01:30 pm
I was surprised to see the Giants actually beat somebody.

and two times no less ! Then your head coach is from my home town   :wink:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: thorman on 22 Sep 2022, 03:53 pm
 I have been a Giants Fan for 75 years ( started at 2 ) and have been let down many times. I would not get too excited about a 2 & 0 start. They may not win another game all season ( hope I am wrong ) ..Maybe lucky next week with Dak out, but things can go downhill quickly. I will go out on a Limb and guess 6 wins this year.
 I do hope I am wrong but I still have many scars from years past !!!!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: vrao81 on 22 Sep 2022, 07:23 pm
I have been a Giants Fan for 75 years ( started at 2 ) and have been let down many times. I would not get too excited about a 2 & 0 start. They may not win another game all season ( hope I am wrong ) ..Maybe lucky next week with Dak out, but things can go downhill quickly. I will go out on a Limb and guess 6 wins this year.
 I do hope I am wrong but I still have many scars from years past !!!!!!

But your team has 4 super bowl rings..meanwhile there are several teams with 0.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 22 Sep 2022, 08:37 pm
But your team has 4 super bowl rings..meanwhile there are several teams with 0.

Exactly, being born and raised in Bflo and my brother-in-law a Giants fan, I see him twice a year, he shakes my hand and says, 'wide right'  :cry:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 22 Sep 2022, 09:21 pm
Poor Norwide.
At least he managed to actually kick it unlike somebody I remember in Giants Stadium attempting a punt.
That was bad.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: VinceT on 22 Sep 2022, 09:24 pm
Lions fan here, big match up with the Vikes Sunday. Who knows maybe we will have a winning season  :lol: They been playing pretty good.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rockadanny on 22 Sep 2022, 10:09 pm
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Lions fan here, big match up with the Vikes Sunday. Who knows maybe we will have a winning season
+1
Although they've disappointed countless times.
Wish so, but not going to hold my breath.
I'll be convinced once they win a playoff game.
Until then, not going to get excited.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 23 Sep 2022, 11:40 am
The most embarrassing moment in pro football last night when Steelers left tackle Dan Moore got knocked straight back on his butt.  Not just beat, that happens every game, not tripped up or hit the ground on a reach block, but with the first contact tossed on his backside like you could do with a small child.  He should have walked to the bench and said I quit, this game's not for me.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 25 Sep 2022, 11:31 pm
Time to break another tablet.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 25 Sep 2022, 11:43 pm
Time to break another tablet.

Why?  The Eagles had a great game.  🙄
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 25 Sep 2022, 11:59 pm
I saw the Packers/Buccaneers.

Iggles really beat up on Washington.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 26 Sep 2022, 01:55 pm
Agreed Beagles looked good but then Wentz and the Redskins looked like garbage, good D. Snyder is a turd.......

Bills choked, we're used to it by now
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 3 Oct 2022, 03:52 am
Only one undefeated team remaining Fly Iggles Fly!
Feels good right now and there is a lot of ball to be played. Hopefully they stay healthy and continue on this run.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 3 Oct 2022, 10:13 am
Only one undefeated team remaining Fly Iggles Fly!
Feels good right now and there is a lot of ball to be played. Hopefully they stay healthy and continue on this run.

Yes, still a long season, but in the lead at the quarter mile pole isn't terrible at all.   And they were down 0-14 early then came back to win decisively against the surging Jaguars.  Hurts is really coming into his own and showing off that cannon as well as his legs.

My other team is on the opposite end of the scale.  The Steelers haven't won a game in their newly renamed Acrisure stadium even after breaking out their new QB Kenny Pickett.  Nothing seems to help this sad sack team, even the lowly Jets looked good against them.  Will we have the Curse of Heinz Field and not win a home game this year?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 3 Oct 2022, 05:05 pm
Only one undefeated team remaining Fly Iggles Fly!
Feels good right now and there is a lot of ball to be played. Hopefully they stay healthy and continue on this run.

I like Hurts and living outside Philly as I do now I see a lot of press on the Birds. If they stay healthy I see no reason why they shouldn't win the East and the NFC. Their schedule at this point looks easy but time will tell as the season progresses. Right now the majority of strength is in the AFC.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 9 Oct 2022, 10:58 am
I like Hurts and living outside Philly as I do now I see a lot of press on the Birds. If they stay healthy I see no reason why they shouldn't win the East and the NFC. Their schedule at this point looks easy but time will tell as the season progresses. Right now the majority of strength is in the AFC.

We'll see how it goes against the cowgirls next week.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 14 Oct 2022, 02:06 pm
We'll see how it goes against the cowgirls next week.

Yep, big matchups this weekend Cowgirls at the Eagles and Bills at the Chiefs , go Birds and Bills !!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 14 Oct 2022, 05:30 pm
amazing when dac prescott broke his thumb they said the cowboys season was over.... that's why they play the damn games  :duh: :lol: :roll:

chiefs bills should be epic, once again, two best multi dimensional gunslingers in the game facing off!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 16 Oct 2022, 09:58 pm
The Giants are surprising everyone so this season.
Hope they can keep it up, I think they're gaining confidence in themselves.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 16 Oct 2022, 10:20 pm
The Giants are surprising everyone so this season.
Hope they can keep it up, I think they're gaining confidence in themselves.

and the jets!  who woulda thunk???
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 16 Oct 2022, 11:00 pm
What's that smell?
Subway Bowl!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 17 Oct 2022, 01:08 am
Josh Allan and the Bills have now beaten KC two out of three.  All in the Chief's house.  Debate for now is over in the AFC.  MVP if voted today is def JA.  And he's just getting started.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 17 Oct 2022, 10:11 am
Holy mackerel!  The Eagles are amazing.  They didn't block Micah Parsons on purpose the entire game.  They just made him wrong by scheme on every play.  That's offensive brilliance.  The Cowgirls adjusted well at halftime getting the game close in the fourth quarter, then dropped back in coverage to stifle the Eagle's passing attack, so they just ran every single play right down the field until Dallas came up, then they threw the touchdown.  I wouldn't know how you stop this offense.  Moving to western Pa I don't get the Eagles games so this is the first chance I had to see them this year.  Very impressive.

On other fronts the Steelers won a game finally.  Tampa although suspect was still 8 point favorites.  Now do we have another QB controversy in steeltown?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 18 Oct 2022, 01:24 pm
Josh Allan and the Bills have now beaten KC two out of three.  All in the Chief's house.  Debate for now is over in the AFC.  MVP if voted today is def JA.  And he's just getting started.

No, the debate isn't over, not until the next victory over KC is a playoff one !!   :D


Agreed on the Eagles but they do need to make better half time adj with regards to their offense, too little second half production.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 19 Oct 2022, 03:31 pm
kc buffalo games will stay on knife edge each time they play, the teams are equally matched, a bounce of the ball, a key play or two will make the difference in every face-off

eagles look good now, they have a weak schedule, will no doubt finish regular season with impressive record, if they stay healthy... but as we all know, the true measure of the team's quality is playoff performance, so we shall see...  playoff games get more focus, eagles rpo attack fairly novel in the league presently and not easy to prep for during the regular season merry go round... playoffs once again likely to be a different story
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: zybar on 19 Oct 2022, 05:56 pm
The Giants are surprising everyone so this season.
Hope they can keep it up, I think they're gaining confidence in themselves.

Go Big Blue!!


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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 31 Oct 2022, 09:27 pm
Josh Allen had a sub-par second half but the Bills still got past the hapless Packers .........
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 1 Nov 2022, 10:42 am
Josh Allen had a sub-par second half but the Bills still got past the hapless Packers .........

Yes.  Grade A fist half, barely a C in the second.  More to me though like the Bills decreased the throttle and coasted to the finish line.  It's not the first time this team has done that. 
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 1 Nov 2022, 11:37 am
My sons are big Steeler fans, as am I, but I also lived in Philly for thirty years, season tickets and all.  I tried explaining what was going to happen on Sunday in Philadelphia, but they had hope.  On the talk shows and social media feeds the yinzers have finally given up the ghost, the season is over, nothing will fix it this year, nobody's firing or benching will turn into wins.

Last night Cincy was exposed.  They don't have an O line that can protect Burrows and don't have a passing attack without Chase.  Except for the aforementioned Steelers the AFC North is wide open.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 8 Nov 2022, 05:56 pm
Stick a fork in the Bills ??

https://news.yahoo.com/allens-injury-puts-bills-super-234008772.html
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 9 Nov 2022, 03:46 pm
Stick a fork in the Bills ??

https://news.yahoo.com/allens-injury-puts-bills-super-234008772.html

the way they use him, the way he plays, taking on tacklers, it would be an absolute miracle he gets through 17 regular season games and several playoff games without being hurt

there is really only one dominant team in the league, they wear red...  and that head coach knows how to design and run an offense, provide his quarterback with run support and keep him upright

over the next couple months, we will see if the team in green is truly at that level
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Mag on 11 Nov 2022, 07:16 pm
  Haven't seen every team play this season. But I was impressed watching Baltimore particularly Lamar Jackson the QB. He seems unstoppable to me and as long as he stays uninjured the team should do well. The QB for Buffalo is impressive as well, Josh Allan I believe his name is. The Eagles don't do anything out of the ordinary but win decisively.

That's my take so far. Not as knowledgeable on NFL as others of this forum but I enjoy watching a good game of Football though I'm not a fan of any particular team. :smoke:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 11 Nov 2022, 08:27 pm
  I'm not a fan of any particular team. :smoke:

No biggie post here all you want your profile pic makes up for it  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 11 Nov 2022, 10:23 pm
the way they use him, the way he plays, taking on tacklers, it would be an absolute miracle he gets through 17 regular season games and several playoff games without being hurt

there is really only one dominant team in the league, they wear red...  and that head coach knows how to design and run an offense, provide his quarterback with run support and keep him upright

over the next couple months, we will see if the team in green is truly at that level

I hear ya, thing is Josh's injury happened while in the pocket. Regardless without him I don't see them going anywhere this year
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 12 Nov 2022, 02:11 pm
It's Saturday and the Bills still haven't declared who's starting at QB.  Vegas dropped the spread to 3.5 points so they think Keenam is starting, who's been a reliable backup for many years.  He doesn't have a great win loss record, but that's more on the teams he been with than his on field play.

And no one has mentioned Jeff Saturday being named interim head coach for the Colts.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: charmerci on 12 Nov 2022, 03:31 pm

And no one has mentioned Jeff Saturday being named interim head coach for the Colts.  Any thoughts?


That team needs a real shake up. They'd probably be better off having Pat McAfee as interim coach! :lol: 
(If you don't know, you can find his show on YouTube.)
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 12 Nov 2022, 04:23 pm

And no one has mentioned Jeff Saturday being named interim head coach for the Colts.  Any thoughts?

That team needs a real shake up. They'd probably be better off having Pat McAfee as interim coach! :lol: 
(If you don't know, you can find his show on YouTube.)

mediocre qb and poor o-line - not sure if vince lombardi would make a difference if he rose from the grave
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 13 Nov 2022, 11:56 am
mediocre qb and poor o-line - not sure if vince lombardi would make a difference if he rose from the grave

Agreed, but making someone with absolutely zero experience coaching at the NFL level a head coach is insanity.  I think it's a real disservice to Saturday setting him up like that, as a well as well the other coaches on the team who've put in the years of work.  I could care less for Irsay or his team's success, but by all accounts Jeff is a good guy, I hate to see what's going to happen here.  Then again they could go undefeated and give us all the raspberry.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: charmerci on 13 Nov 2022, 02:54 pm
Agreed, but making someone with absolutely zero experience coaching at the NFL level a head coach is insanity.  I think it's a real disservice to Saturday setting him up like that, as a well as well the other coaches on the team who've put in the years of work.  I could care less for Irsay or his team's success, but by all accounts Jeff is a good guy, I hate to see what's going to happen here.  Then again they could go undefeated and give us all the raspberry.


The prognosis is not good. However, everybody has had experience as a professional and the team has been together for the season so there is a small possibility that it MIGHT not be the train wreck we're expecting. But, I don't think anyone is going to bet their house on it!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 13 Nov 2022, 09:13 pm
Bills suck (coaching/play calling), it's official !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: charmerci on 14 Nov 2022, 12:11 am

The prognosis is not good. However, everybody has had experience as a professional and the team has been together for the season so there is a small possibility that it MIGHT not be the train wreck we're expecting. But, I don't think anyone is going to bet their house on it!


And someone who did bet on the Colts to win, got a pretty good payday! :o
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 14 Nov 2022, 01:41 am
Bills suck (coaching/play calling), it's official !

Absolutely correct.  Fourth and 2 and a FG is the right call.  But, no!!  This will cost them home field for the playoffs.  Will also cost Sean McDermott at a legit shot at coach of the year.  I'm freaken sick.  Sick.  Breath. 

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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 14 Nov 2022, 03:16 am
The greatest game of the season, Bills v Vikings!  Wow.  No dog in this fight other than my pool pick Minnesota, but what a finish.  Vikings win, no Bills win, no it's the Vikings, Bills, Vikings.  And that was before OT.  Should Buffalo taken a safety at the end of regulation?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 14 Nov 2022, 03:04 pm
What a great day watching football! Bills Vikes game was one for the ages! Packers and Bucs might be getting back on track. Dak playing down to his abilities, wonder if Jerry is regretting that decision? Giants and Fins continue to surprise and KC is right where expected! Some great mid season drama for sure! Will the Commanders rise up and take down the Iggles tonight? Hope not but hey ya never know that’s why they play the games!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Big Red Machine on 14 Nov 2022, 05:46 pm

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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 14 Nov 2022, 06:28 pm
Absolutely correct.  Fourth and 2 and a FG is the right call.  But, no!! 

even before it became 4th and 2, it was second and third and two, both times they passed, incomplete with no time running off the clock !!!!!

My 12 year old grandson asked me how someone as dumb as McDermott still holds a job. Sean McDermott is no more than Opie, he needs to go back to Mayberry RFD !!

Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: JDoyle on 15 Nov 2022, 12:40 am
Pretty harsh twitch… and if you think about it, not a good observation really.
Bills had that game won and what happened? It took a couple of 4 down’s, a circus  catch, good luck, bad luck  or whatever… the Viking’s won, good for them.
I hope the Viking’s are proud of a total luck out win
I think the equivalent is winning the power ball… which is the real observation.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: bladesmith on 15 Nov 2022, 02:38 am
The dolphins are impressive and looking pretty good..
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 15 Nov 2022, 11:47 am
Ouch! Tough game for the Iggles last night. Commanders offense did a stellar job with time of possession and scoring on a very good defense. Iggles offense made it difficult with turnovers. Hats off to the Commanders for handing the Iggles their first loss of the season.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 15 Nov 2022, 01:32 pm
Pretty harsh twitch… and if you think about it, not a good observation really.
Bills had that game won and what happened? It took a couple of 4 down’s, a circus  catch, good luck, bad luck  or whatever… the Viking’s won, good for them.
I hope the Viking’s are proud of a total luck out win
I think the equivalent is winning the power ball… which is the real observation.

harsh ???? LOL, nonsense. if any team knows about 'having the game won' it's the Bills for crying out loud. Am I critical of them ? you bet, nobody on this board goes back further with the Bills then I do ............
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 15 Nov 2022, 01:34 pm
Ouch! Tough game for the Iggles last night. Commanders offense did a stellar job with time of possession and scoring on a very good defense. Iggles offense made it difficult with turnovers. Hats off to the Commanders for handing the Iggles their first loss of the season.

agreed, pretty tough to win when you turn it over 4 times !   :duh:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 15 Nov 2022, 01:34 pm
We're not watching football anymore, it should be two hand touch or flag football.  Graham falls to his knees and barely touches the QB and a flag is thrown, ridiculous!  And an obvious facemask is completely missed on Goddard, the place where you should throw the flag.  Now I'm not suggesting this, but the NFLs open embrace of gambling brings up the spectre of a fixed game, and some folks are posting to that effect this morning.  In the old days of the NFL people were fired from lucrative broadcasting jobs for even mentioning a point spread, now they pick the game on national TV based on the spread.  A bad move by the NFL, they should have never allowed gambling to enter the ropes.

The Eagles were set up for a loss.  Weak divisional opponent they didn't take seriously enough and the injury to Jordan Davis leaves them open to the running game and weakens the pass rush.  Just like the return of TJ Watt to the Steelers makes them an entirely different team when Davis gets back for the playoff push the Eagles will be ready.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 15 Nov 2022, 01:51 pm
We're not watching football anymore, it should be two hand touch or flag football.  Graham falls to his knees and barely touches the QB and a flag is thrown, ridiculous!  And an obvious facemask is completely missed on Goddard, the place where you should throw the flag.  Now I'm not suggesting this, but the NFLs open embrace of gambling brings up the spectre of a fixed game, and some folks are posting to that effect this morning.  In the old days of the NFL people were fired from lucrative broadcasting jobs for even mentioning a point spread, now they pick the game on national TV based on the spread.  A bad move by the NFL, they should have never allowed gambling to enter the ropes.

The Eagles were set up for a loss.  Weak divisional opponent they didn't take seriously enough and the injury to Jordan Davis leaves them open to the running game and weakens the pass rush.  Just like the return of TJ Watt to the Steelers makes them an entirely different team when Davis gets back for the playoff push the Eagles will be ready.

all good points ......   :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 15 Nov 2022, 04:02 pm
Penalties? Didn’t want to go there but since it’s been brought up…
Last nights crew needs a little “talkin to” by the League’s front office! 
Maybe take them down to the minors for a bit?
IMO all penalties of the 15yd kind should be reviewed! A turnover is reviewed to make sure it’s clean. It was very obvious the face mask on Goddard contributed to the fumble, but wasn’t called so therefore not reviewable. NFL needs to do something about this since far too much is at steak! A foul benefiting the team that committed it? Just not right!!
Gardner-Johnson hits a guy clearly still inbounds and has a late hit personal foul called on him? Should be reviewable!!
Rant over bring on the Colts!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 15 Nov 2022, 04:43 pm
eagles were bound to lose at some point, perfect record is unrealistic, hopefully it serves as a wake up call to be prepared and fully motivated every week - also shows how even the best teams are vulnerable to their performance being seriously affected by a single injury

on a separate note, credit to the colts and j saturday winning this past weekend - though the win may say more about the hapless raiders than the colts

and the bills, ....  ahhhh ...., the bills.... setting up for another january heartbreak already  :duh: :lol:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: charmerci on 15 Nov 2022, 06:30 pm
17 game regular season. That's all the '72 Dolphins had to do to win the Super Bowl! They really should stop celebrating these losses. It's now in poor taste.
It's a freakin' long season. Teams are going to lose for a multitude of reasons. Big deal. The real games to get upset over are in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Mag on 15 Nov 2022, 06:41 pm
   Washington came to play!
 Eagles almost pulled it out of the fire accept for the costly fumble on the player's second effort. Can't blame a player for going for more yards. :smoke:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Speedskater on 15 Nov 2022, 10:17 pm
They might play the Sunday Cleveland/Buffalo game in Detroit.
Depending on a lot of weather things, there might be feet of snow near the Buffalo stadium.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 17 Nov 2022, 08:12 pm
They might play the Sunday Cleveland/Buffalo game in Detroit.
Depending on a lot of weather things, there might be feet of snow near the Buffalo stadium.

awaiting NFL decision , if moved could be a couple of other locations also. I would expect an answer later today or early Fri morning
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 17 Nov 2022, 10:20 pm
it's official, Bills game moved to Detroit. Western NY is basically shutting down, I remember when Western NY'ers were tough !!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 17 Nov 2022, 11:47 pm
Back in my day we played in snow up OVER our helmets with no long underwear allowed.
These guys, Powderpuff League, they might be good for cheerleaders at a tennis match.
Maybe.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 18 Nov 2022, 01:08 am
Back in my day we played in snow up OVER our helmets with no long underwear allowed.
These guys, Powderpuff League, they might be good for cheerleaders at a tennis match.
Maybe.

LOL, being from Buffalo I know what you mean about 'back in our day', trouble is you and I were only 3 feet tall back then !!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Speedskater on 18 Nov 2022, 01:39 am
it's official, Bills game moved to Detroit. Western NY is basically shutting down, I remember when Western NY'ers were tough !!
Didn't I say that the game was moving, two days ago?   
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: whell on 18 Nov 2022, 05:30 pm
Bills suck (coaching/play calling), it's official !

You guys have no idea what "suck" truly means until you've lived as a Detroit Lions fan for your entire adult life.  :oops:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 18 Nov 2022, 07:50 pm
You guys have no idea what "suck" truly means until you've lived as a Detroit Lions fan for your entire adult life.  :oops:

well try losing 4 Super Bowls, in a row !!  Oh that's right, you haven't even been one .......  :(
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: whell on 18 Nov 2022, 09:49 pm
well try losing 4 Super Bowls, in a row !!  Oh that's right, you haven't even been one .......  :(

We last won anything before the NFL Championship was called a Superbowl.  It was 1957, and we all drove our Edsels to the game.   :wink:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 19 Nov 2022, 01:35 am
We last won anything before the NFL Championship was called a Superbowl.  It was 1957, and we all drove our Edsels to the game.   :wink:

Now , now, before you 'ole NFL' fans get too far ahead of yourselves let us old 'AFL' guys remind you that before it was called the Super Bowl it was the 'AFL - NFL Championship game'   :thumb:

As for 1957 and you driving your Edsel, dude you're older than dirt !! I was only 4 years old !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 19 Nov 2022, 11:36 am
Now , now, before you 'ole NFL' fans get too far ahead of yourselves let us old 'AFL' guys remind you that before it was called the Super Bowl it was the 'AFL - NFL Championship game'   :thumb:

As for 1957 and you driving your Edsel, dude you're older than dirt !! I was only 4 years old !

It's a little known scientific fact that the smartest and best looking people were all born in 1953.

I was born in San Diego county when the Chargers were an AFL team, and of course the Rams were NFL.  My dad railed against the AFL claiming "they're all a bunch of hand fighters, nobody blocks".  But us kids loved the Chargers and wanted Charger uniforms for Christmas.  Well, sure enough Christmas morning came and I received my brand new, complete with pads and helmet, Rams uniform.  I loved it anyway and wore it all day, my best friend David came over with his matching Rams uni.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 19 Nov 2022, 02:45 pm
It's a little known scientific fact that the smartest and best looking people were all born in 1953.

I was born in San Diego county when the Chargers were an AFL team, and of course the Rams were NFL.  My dad railed against the AFL claiming "they're all a bunch of hand fighters, nobody blocks".  But us kids loved the Chargers and wanted Charger uniforms for Christmas.  Well, sure enough Christmas morning came and I received my brand new, complete with pads and helmet, Rams uniform.  I loved it anyway and wore it all day, my best friend David came over with his matching Rams uni.

and I was born in Buffalo and we thank the Chargers for letting us claim Jack Kemp off the waiver wire for a hundred bucks back in '62 ! Now you do realize your Chargers originated in LA and after all these years they're back ! For me anyways fond memories of '64 and '65 beating SD for the AFL title, Kemp to Bass and Dubenion , you had Hadl to 'Bambi' !   of course the other highlight for Bills fans was 'the hit heard round the world' that Mike Stratton put on Keith Lincoln .........

https://www.facebook.com/tphslegacyclub/videos/mike-strattons-hit-heard-round-the-world/1166825579998594/
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Speedskater on 19 Nov 2022, 07:32 pm
Well over 6 feet of snow at the Buffalo football stadium Saturday morning.  Meanwhile the Cleveland football stadium has not seen much more than 1/4 inch total accumulation this Fall. (it's the far Eastern Cleveland suburbs that have gotten all the Lake Effect snow) 
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 20 Nov 2022, 12:37 pm
Well over 6 feet of snow at the Buffalo football stadium Saturday morning.  Meanwhile the Cleveland football stadium has not seen much more than 1/4 inch total accumulation this Fall. (it's the far Eastern Cleveland suburbs that have gotten all the Lake Effect snow)

The vagaries of lake effect snow.  Reports from Towanda, eastern Buffalo suburbs, of 1 1/2" to 2" of snow.  Been to Buffalo many times and I remember driving on the highway to Buffalo in a big 4wd truck with mud and snow for tires nervous that I wouldn't make it the snow was so heavy, then got to town and the roads were clear.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: JDoyle on 21 Nov 2022, 01:47 am
Wellll, Whaddaya know… looks like the cowboys plucked the colts helmet right outta the Vikes keister.
Bills got back to their winning ways, even though they were literally sick, tired and burried in snow,
But yeah, they’re powderpuff’ s ya know… the guy’s who walked uphill to school both ways said so…
Opie called a good game too, getting the running game going, guess he won’t be fired after all.  :lol:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 21 Nov 2022, 03:06 pm
Opie called a good game too, getting the running game going, guess he won’t be fired after all.  :lol:

I'd still can his ass, LOL !   :P  So now the Bills get to move across the hall to the visitors locker room for the game on Thursday ......  :green:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: VinceT on 21 Nov 2022, 03:33 pm
I'd still can his ass, LOL !   :P  So now the Bills get to move across the hall to the visitors locker room for the game on Thursday ......  :green:

Speaking of that...how bout those Lions?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Scroof Neachy on 21 Nov 2022, 04:07 pm
I'd still can his ass, LOL !   :P  So now the Bills get to move across the hall to the visitors locker room for the game on Thursday ......  :green:

They used the visitor’s locker room yesterday.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 21 Nov 2022, 06:42 pm
The Giants, I dunno about those guys.
And the Cowgirls came on strong, I was sure they'd lose.

Good thing I don't bet on games!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 21 Nov 2022, 10:21 pm
They used the visitor’s locker room yesterday.

where the Brownies go , out in the parking lot ?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 21 Nov 2022, 10:21 pm
The Giants, I dunno about those guys.
And the Cowgirls came on strong, I was sure they'd lose.

Good thing I don't bet on games!

V-E-G-A-S baby !!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 21 Nov 2022, 10:23 pm
Speaking of that...how bout those Lions?

Fingers crossed for Turkey Day that the Bills can spoil their dinner !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 25 Nov 2022, 12:34 pm
The Giants have a ways to go but they did look good in the first half.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 25 Nov 2022, 03:04 pm
The Giants have a ways to go but they did look good in the first half.

yep, they need to be reminded there are two halves to a game........

Bills win looked ugly and Von Millers injury ????
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 25 Nov 2022, 04:55 pm

Bills win looked ugly and Von Millers injury ????

They said sprained knee this morning.  Seems like that says returning this year some time.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: VinceT on 25 Nov 2022, 05:18 pm
Fingers crossed for Turkey Day that the Bills can spoil their dinner !

Thank the Lions coaching staff for making it a happy Turkey Day for Bills fans. Very questionable coaching decisions on that last 3 and inches they had, also not covering the best WR on the field with 26 seconds left in the game.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 25 Nov 2022, 08:31 pm
Thank the Lions coaching staff for making it a happy Turkey Day for Bills fans. Very questionable coaching decisions on that last 3 and inches they had, also not covering the best WR on the field with 26 seconds left in the game.

Allen's throw to Diggs (last possession 23 secs to go) was all about pin point execution.  Coverage was right there.     Similar to Mariano Rivera's cut fast ball, you know is coming but can't touch it.  Not a new gig for Allen/Diggs.  Remarkable and stunning every time.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 28 Nov 2022, 05:27 pm
Some great games with overtime and a delayed start giving extra time for a lot of markets with exciting endings.  Normally I'd be blathering about the remarkable Eagles and their nearly 400 yards on the ground.  Not since the Truman administration in 1948 did they have that many rushing yards, but that's not what I came to tell you about.  What did you think of Jordan Love's fabulous performance that nearly brought the Packers back?  Man that kid was great, what an arm with instant recognition.  He looked like he'd been running the team for the last 5 or 6 years, not coming off the bench.  Is this the last we've seen of Rodgers in Green Bay?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 28 Nov 2022, 06:06 pm
Some great games with overtime and a delayed start giving extra time for a lot of markets with exciting endings.  Normally I'd be blathering about the remarkable Eagles and their nearly 400 yards on the ground.  Not since the Truman administration in 1948 did they have that many rushing yards, but that's not what I came to tell you about.  What did you think of Jordan Love's fabulous performance that nearly brought the Packers back?  Man that kid was great, what an arm with instant recognition.  He looked like he'd been running the team for the last 5 or 6 years, not coming off the bench.  Is this the last we've seen of Rodgers in Green Bay?

I fell asleep ! but saw it on the highlights this AM. With regards to the Rodgers question does the same apply to Brady ?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Scroof Neachy on 28 Nov 2022, 09:02 pm
The Brady who broke up a marriage to play football for a mediocre team. Great role model for his kids. Not!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 28 Nov 2022, 11:04 pm
I fell asleep ! but saw it on the highlights this AM. With regards to the Rodgers question does the same apply to Brady ?

Do the Bucs have a stud back up QB like the Pack?
Love is a stud hope he gets the chance to prove it!
GO IGGLES!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 29 Nov 2022, 04:25 pm
we are definitely winding up for an excellent rest of the regular season...  seems like headed for clash of titans (excuse the pun) -- bills chiefs eagles niners... and the rest of the nfc east - who woulda thunk???   :lol: :lol: :lol:

watching tampa bay and denver is just sad...
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 30 Nov 2022, 11:44 am
we are definitely winding up for an excellent rest of the regular season...  seems like headed for clash of titans (excuse the pun) -- bills chiefs eagles niners... and the rest of the nfc east - who woulda thunk???   :lol: :lol: :lol:

watching tampa bay and denver is just sad...

What a difference a couple years make.  The NFC East, the doormat of the league a couple years ago, who sparked talk of doing away with divisions and taking the best six (at that time) teams to the playoffs, may now possibly put all four teams into the post season.  Of course not likely, but very possible, and I'm just noting the contrast.  And as noted by jjss49, the fall of the once proud Tampa and Denver teams.  The dream of parody realized.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 1 Dec 2022, 04:38 pm
tb12 has always needed a superb offensive line and a run game to enable him to do his slice and dice -- despite his advanced age, he has neither this year, so the poor performance is entirely predictable

the russell wilson thing is harder to understand...  has his decline been this precipitous in the last couple years?  he wasn't this bad in fairly recent memory, now it seems that he just can't move, and it is amazing he can't process mentally either

will be fun to see how far the eagles and cowboys can go... giants and redskins (er commanders) should be one and done if they become wild cards
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 2 Dec 2022, 03:33 pm
Watched last nites Bills / Pats game on Prime for the first time. OMG, horrible broadcast, Al Michaels performed as if he was announcing a bridge game from a nursing home.............
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: garyalex on 2 Dec 2022, 06:25 pm
That was one of the most boring games I've ever seen.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 4 Dec 2022, 08:19 pm
Wow, Eagles are kickin' butt !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 4 Dec 2022, 09:56 pm
Jets gave the Vikes everything they had.  Best take:  Appears Zach Wilson will be serving Gatorade for a while Mike White continues to learn, make plays and be their starter.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: JDoyle on 5 Dec 2022, 01:44 am
Good news, Bills are the top seed…
Bad news, the entire AFC is a beast  :o
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Scroof Neachy on 5 Dec 2022, 02:20 am
where the Brownies go , out in the parking lot ?

No, you silly goose, they used the Lions dressing room.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 5 Dec 2022, 04:12 pm
No, you silly goose, they used the Lions dressing room.

LOL, that was over 2 weeks ago ! As for the Brownies, screw them and that bum Watson !! Typical NFL, all about the $$$
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 5 Dec 2022, 05:07 pm
Hear the Giants and the No Names engaged in an epic snooze-fest for the ages.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 6 Dec 2022, 01:27 pm
Interesting MNF game, Brady and TB winning with two touchdowns in the last couple minutes.  I went to sleep thinking the game was over and woke up to turn on PFT on Peacock to have Florio and Sims highlighting the over the top holding from TB's right tackle that wasn't called, for the most part.  Florio said game aren't fixed for any particular team, but there's pressure on the officials to keep games close.  Competitive games are good for the league and keeps people watching on TV.  Goddell was asked a couple years ago if he rooted for any team, he said he rooted for the team that was behind.  Now we have more one score games than any time in NFL history.  So do you think the NFL is pushing officials to let the team behind play?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 6 Dec 2022, 02:01 pm
I’m not sure of any conspiracy with the refs, but across the board there have been A LOT of very questionable calls at big moments in games. Let’s face it holding can be called on just about every play. Personal foul penalties are pure judgment and should be reviewed! Far too much judgement is put in a refs hands. I understand they are human and reviewing every call will hold up the game, but 15 yards is a lot of field to gain from a bad call!
My2c
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 6 Dec 2022, 03:14 pm
Vegas baby !!!   :scratch:


Seriously though as I've grown older I care less and less about all pro sports, maybe even less when it comes to football.  The fundamentals of the game are so eroded , too many players looking for the ESPN highlight moment ......       
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Scroof Neachy on 6 Dec 2022, 05:12 pm
Whatever happened to the “fullback”?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 6 Dec 2022, 11:54 pm
Whatever happened to the “fullback”?

Pittsburgh has one, Derek Watt, JJ's and TJ's little brother, he got a first down last week.  Cam Heyward's little brother is a tight end on the team and scored a TD on Sunday.   They're both more special teams players than anything else, but it's a family affair here in the Burgh.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 9 Dec 2022, 11:49 pm
Again last night, the Rams were literally strangling Crosby.  No call.  I simply cannot believe there's not an edict from 345 Park Ave to not call holding on possible game winning drives at the end of games.  It's just way too obvious.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 9 Dec 2022, 11:54 pm
The Raiders helped with a couple of ill timed penalties as well. It was exciting watching Baker do his thing with only a day of prep.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 11 Dec 2022, 06:51 pm
The Giants aren't exactly terrorizing Philadelphia.

I haven't seen this in a long time: the network switched away from the Giants/Eagles to Cowboys/Texans while the game was in the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: kmmd on 11 Dec 2022, 11:03 pm
Purdy good…so far.  Thoughts are with Deebo.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 12 Dec 2022, 02:14 pm
Eagles made the Giants look like Div 2 College team and the officiating continues to SUCK.......

https://www.aol.com/sports/dolphins-unbelievable-roughing-passer-penalty-033618066.html

a total BS call !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 12 Dec 2022, 04:38 pm
long season, cream rising to the top, both ny teams showing they cannot sustain the hot start, minnesota looks like a one and done squad come playoff time

interesting to see how far niners get with a young'un at qb.... (just not the young'un we thought  :lol:)

iggles lookin more and more like the real deal

brady and crew just washed...  depressing to witness, bucs were competitive for what ... 15 minutes?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 12 Dec 2022, 06:34 pm
long season, cream rising to the top, both ny teams showing they cannot sustain the hot start,

For the record there is but only one team that is 'home' to the state of NY, the Buffalo Bills. I assume you were speaking of the Joisey Giants & Jets !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 12 Dec 2022, 06:45 pm
I know the Giants have been on a down trend lately, but a division game at home, I thought they would at least give the Eagles a game of it, not so much.  The Eagles are a complete team across the board, in every facet.  When they play well they make you look silly, foolish, incompetent.  When they have a bad game they figure a way to pull it out.

The Steelers can't get a win when  handed to them on a silver platter.  Both starting QBs go out early with concussions.  Ravens have an unheard of free agent, Steelers have a first overall pick that was the starter earlier in the year.  So Trubisky throws three interceptions and loses the game, while Brown hands the ball off for the win.

The refs have been the worst I've seen in all  60 some years I've been watching football games.  They call personal fouls on QBs tacklers if you breath on them, and you can literally tackle a rusher on a pass play.  Anything to not have premier quarterbacks injured.  I suspect this all comes from 345 Park Ave.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 12 Dec 2022, 07:02 pm

The refs have been the worst I've seen in all  60 some years I've been watching football games.  They call personal fouls on QBs tacklers if you breathe on them, and you can literally tackle a rusher on a pass play.  Anything to not have premier quarterbacks injured.  I suspect this all comes from 345 Park Ave.


Couldn’t agree more!!! Except you’re A LOT older than me!  :green:

Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 12 Dec 2022, 07:04 pm
long season, cream rising to the top, both ny teams showing they cannot sustain the hot start, minnesota looks like a one and done squad come playoff time


Jets way more legitimate and on schedule for improvement.  I think we all knew how faux the Giants start was. 

Bills/Fish next Saturday will show Tua a bit overrated.  And, BTW I heard Miami called in and set up heaters at SoFi for the their sideline.  It was what... 58 degrees?   I'll hesitate, but maybe, just maybe the team needs to temporarily hand in their "man" cards.  Wow.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 12 Dec 2022, 08:14 pm
I know the Giants have been on a down trend lately, but a division game at home, I thought they would at least give the Eagles a game of it, not so much.  The Eagles are a complete team across the board, in every facet.  When they play well they make you look silly, foolish, incompetent.  When they have a bad game they figure a way to pull it out.

The Steelers can't get a win when  handed to them on a silver platter.  Both starting QBs go out early with concussions.  Ravens have an unheard of free agent, Steelers have a first overall pick that was the starter earlier in the year.  So Trubisky throws three interceptions and loses the game, while Brown hands the ball off for the win.

The refs have been the worst I've seen in all  60 some years I've been watching football games.  They call personal fouls on QBs tacklers if you breath on them, and you can literally tackle a rusher on a pass play.  Anything to not have premier quarterbacks injured.  I suspect this all comes from 345 Park Ave.

well said and I agree, being an old fart like you as well !   :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 18 Dec 2022, 12:13 pm
harsh ???? LOL, nonsense. if any team knows about 'having the game won' it's the Bills for crying out loud. Am I critical of them ? you bet, nobody on this board goes back further with the Bills then I do ............

Josh Allen's TD pass to end the first half was magic.  Any question on MVP?  This guy is unreal.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 18 Dec 2022, 04:34 pm
Josh Allen's TD pass to end the first half was magic.  Any question on MVP?  This guy is unreal.

I think Jalen Hurts will have something to say about that on the field.  But you can't deny that Josh over Tua was the difference in the game.

To me the big news was the NFL record comeback by the Vikings.  36 points in the second half after being down 33 to zip was unreal.  Then the end of overtime they were sure to settle for the tie until the moron Indy player who held down the runner drawing a foul, the only possible thing that could save the Vikings.  Saturday looks a lot more like the interim coach than next year's head coach.  The two times a head coach makes an oversized impact, going for it on fourth down and end of game time management have been a disaster for the Colts.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 18 Dec 2022, 07:58 pm
Josh Allen's TD pass to end the first half was magic.  Any question on MVP?  This guy is unreal.

I agree, Hurts is without question in the running. As for the Bills, I just don't have the warm fuzzy feeling, but then I go back to 1960 so I've lived through all the ups and downs !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: zybar on 19 Dec 2022, 01:15 pm
How about those Giants!!

While I have no illusions about post season success...it will be nice to be there.

(https://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2022%2F1219%2Fr1108382_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg&w=920&h=518&scale=crop&cquality=80&location=origin&format=jpg)

George
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 1 Jan 2023, 10:21 pm
Are the Eagles imploding ??   :scratch:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 1 Jan 2023, 11:05 pm
Are the Eagles imploding ??   :scratch:

Nah just a QB issue. Minshew looked lost out there today dunno why he just played flat! The defense is still playing extremely well! Held the Saints to 13 points and shut them down in the second half. Hoping for a win next week and a positive report on Josh Sweat.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 2 Jan 2023, 12:18 am
Good for the Giants.
What is wrong the Vikings?  They played like I used to.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 2 Jan 2023, 05:03 am
dabol definitely coach of the year... winning with very very little talent

vikes will surely be one and done come playoff time...

eagles will go as far as jalen hurts will take em...
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 2 Jan 2023, 06:40 pm
Nah just a QB issue. Minshew looked lost out there today dunno why he just played flat! The defense is still playing extremely well! Held the Saints to 13 points and shut them down in the second half. Hoping for a win next week and a positive report on Josh Sweat.

well Eagles fans have been 'hoping' for a win the past two weeks ! Next week they will need more than hope !!

Niners, needed OT to be the Raiders, regardless they're a strong NFC contender
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 2 Jan 2023, 09:22 pm
the eagles offense is heavily based on creating problems for the opposing defenses with the major threat of jalen hurt running for yardage

minshew is a decent back up but he in no way represents the same threat as hurts, so defenses will zone up and rush with impunity... totally different deal

that said, giants have nothing to play for in this final game in terms of playoff standing, so will be interesting to see what transpires - eagles definitely suffering numerous key injuries at a very bad time in the season
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 3 Jan 2023, 03:00 am
Prayers going out for Damar Hamlin and his family!

Can somebody shut Suzy Kolber up!!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 3 Jan 2023, 01:52 pm
Prayers going out for Damar Hamlin and his family!

Absolutely, as well as the Bills organization. If there's a more jinxed team in football I don't know which one it is .....

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Can somebody shut Suzy Kolber up!!

i like her and given the situation of last nite I think there is no real written narrative or script that is perfect. I think all the 'talking heads' were in a state of shock.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 6 Jan 2023, 08:51 pm
it's great to hear of Damar's progress   :thumb:

but does everyone understand the AFC playoff scenario ?   :scratch:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 7 Jan 2023, 02:15 am
it's great to hear of Damar's progress   :thumb:

but does everyone understand the AFC playoff scenario ?   :scratch:

The league has made a mess of it.  Do they still have that coin flip neutral site bull crap?  They were right just cancelling the game, they should have left it at that.  They're changing the rules of football in the middle of the season.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 7 Jan 2023, 02:19 am
"The league has made a mess of it.  Do they still have that coin flip neutral site bull crap?  They were right just cancelling the game, they should have left it at that.  They're changing the rules of football in the middle of the season."

I wholly agree.   If the NFL is going on with the games (as they should) let's get the Bills/Bengals resumed pronto.  Then all else will fall into place as usual.  There's your solution...fair and easy.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 9 Jan 2023, 04:18 pm
its playoff time!  bottom of the stack have some pretty awful teams, but hey they still play the games!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 9 Jan 2023, 08:53 pm
nice emotional win for the Bills yesterday   :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 10 Jan 2023, 03:52 am
nice emotional win for the Bills yesterday   :thumb:

indeed

but i had to laugh, a belichick team giving up two kickoff returns leading to the loss ... hell has officially frozen over... :lol:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 10 Jan 2023, 04:19 am

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248598)


How about those Dawgs! Repeat Champions!!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 10 Jan 2023, 11:11 am
its playoff time!  bottom of the stack have some pretty awful teams, but hey they still play the games!!!

The field has not improved by adding another team to the playoffs or another game to the season.  And it's not the best teams, it's the best quarterbacks in the playoffs.  The base defense is now five DBs, two fast linebackers, two edge rushers, and two enormous tackles.  Every pass route is one high low combination with a deep over.  It's all looking very much the same.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 10 Jan 2023, 06:48 pm
just waiting for mahomes vs allen next chapter, or maybe burrows can spoil the reunion

hopefully niners can come out of the nfc unscathed

all else are prelims
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 13 Jan 2023, 02:02 pm
So the stupidest decision the NFL has ever made plays itself out this postseason with the neutral site coin flip baloney picking Atlanta as the neutral site.  This all comes from a medical condition suffered by Damar Hamlin on the field after which the Bills said they were too emotionally wrecked to play.  That's a forfeit.  Why anything else is considered is beyond me.  It still hasn't been established what the Bengals actually said about it at the time, but if they also refused to take the field they also forfiet and two loses are recorded for the teams then we move on normally.  Instead we have this insanity playing out, once again confirming the NFL is a fixed deal with predetermined results.  And I don't mean winners are picked by 345 Park Ave, results are predetermined to be close games driving viewers to stay tuned in to the end of the game.  It's a TV show like any other and it's steered just like Survivor and all reality shows are.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 13 Jan 2023, 05:10 pm
it is a business -- for all involved

tweaking a host of variables to make more money first and foremost...

why are we surprised? 

that said, we watch the games, at its best, it is a compelling product/experience
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 15 Jan 2023, 02:33 pm

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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 15 Jan 2023, 03:49 pm
After putting me to sleep the 49ers really woke up.
Let's see if the Giants came to play or stand around and get their butts beat.

The Giants showed up to play - good game.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 16 Jan 2023, 02:58 am
brandon staley is toast (or should be) - sad, pathetic display of coaching and game control -- up 24-0 and you don't run the ball?  then you can't get pass coverage assignments right in the entire second half?  fire the damn defensive coordinator!!! d oh, its the head coach!!!!!!!!!!!  :duh: :duh:

miami - buffalo was exceptionally entertaining...  mcdaniels is very impressive, showed so many flaws in the bills with a zero at quarterback, almost pulled off an upset for the ages

vikes have been a fraud all season... were they playing with 9 guys on d?????  sheesh -- good for giants and dabol... over achievers of the year!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 16 Jan 2023, 07:31 pm
yep, Bills play like that against Bengals and they are toast.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 16 Jan 2023, 09:47 pm
Dallas and Tamp Bay.
Are they allowed to end in a tie? 
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SoCalWJS on 16 Jan 2023, 11:53 pm
Dallas and Tamp Bay.
Are they allowed to end in a tie?
No.

But I am trying to figure out a way for both Teams to lose……
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 17 Jan 2023, 01:45 am
No.

But I am trying to figure out a way for both Teams to lose……

haha well just wait a week... they will soon enough
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 17 Jan 2023, 12:20 pm
haha well just wait a week... they will soon enough

And the new slate of games is up with the lower seeds on Saturday with the jaguars and giants facing the bye week league leaders.  Will Daboll continue his coach of the year run against the team he's lost to twice  so far this year?  How healthy Hurts is seems to be the question, I think it's the loss of Lane Johnson at right tackle that makes the most difference.   Jacksonville ends it's run at KC, they did well this year, but the magic stops with Andy Reid.

Bills Bengals is the marquis matchup of the weekend for obvious reasons.  Dallas can't miss four extra points against SF, and I don't expect they'll have the chance against the 49er defense.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 17 Jan 2023, 02:39 pm
Letitroll, I agree with everything you stated. FWIW it sounds like Lane Johnson will be playing, he's been practicing this week and in an interview stated he plans to 'suck it up'. We shall see.......
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 17 Jan 2023, 03:19 pm
What a mess last nights game was! TCU could have knocked off the Bucks! A 12-5 team against an 8-9 team with a one dimensional offense? Brady wasn’t BRADY either! Troy and Joe were very generous with their analysis of him “Brady and (insert receiver of choice) aren’t on the same page” bullshit! Brady was all over the place and played horribly! Bad O-line, no run game, and an aging non-athletic QB=disaster! Time for TB12 to hang up the cleats, lick his wounds, bask in his glory days,  and get on with life after Gisele.

Can we start a petition to keep Aikman from ever calling another Cowboy’s game? Put him on the sidelines in mini-shorts, white boots and pom-poms with the rest of the cheerleaders.  :roll:

Sorry for the rant haven’t had my bran muffin yet!

Predictions: Chiefs, Niners, Iggles, and Bills advance to the Conference Championship games.

What say you?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 17 Jan 2023, 07:08 pm
"Predictions: Chiefs, Niners, Iggles, and Bills advance to the Conference Championship games."

Yes, this is a safe and accurate prediction.  Further down the road, Bills - Eagles in the final in the desert.

Re TB, he looked forced all night.  Lacked grace, rhythm and that intangible confidence from years past.  Sadly, he's gone too far.  Reminds me of Favre with the Jets. 

Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 20 Jan 2023, 04:25 pm

Predictions: Chiefs, Niners, Iggles, and Bills advance to the Conference Championship games.

What say you?

i agree, these are the 4 best teams, whether they can win one game, we shall see - bengals/bills and niners/cowboys should be quite competitive, the other two maybe not so much - fun weekend coming up!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 20 Jan 2023, 07:50 pm
"Predictions: Chiefs, Niners, Iggles, and Bills advance to the Conference Championship games."

Yes, this is a safe and accurate prediction.  Further down the road, Bills - Eagles in the final in the desert.

Re TB, he looked forced all night.  Lacked grace, rhythm and that intangible confidence from years past.  Sadly, he's gone too far.  Reminds me of Favre with the Jets.

While I will always pull for the Bills(I go back to the AFL days and saw my first game at the 'Rock Pile' in '61), if they play like they did last week against the 'Fish' they will be toast !
Title: Bills
Post by: FireGuy on 21 Jan 2023, 02:02 am
Quote from: twitch54 link=topic=183294.msg1937While I will always pull for the Bills(I go ba660#msg1937660 date=1674244255
ck to the AFL days and saw my first game at the 'Rock Pile' in '61), if they play like they did last week against the 'Fish' they will be toast !

AFL at the Rock Pile with the Bills...there's some awesome history.  I hear ya on the Miami game...But the Bills could always go back to the EJ Manuel, JP Losman or Trent Edwards days?   Pure pain even thinking about those guys.  One good thing on Josh, he never gives up, never.  On one drive give up a pick then the next two passing TD's are the sweetest you'll see all year.  I have not forgotten his "perfect" playoff game last year Vs. the Pats.  That was historic.  We'll see.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 22 Jan 2023, 01:14 am
The Chiefs really are a good team.
Maybe the Giants can pluck those Iggles.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 22 Jan 2023, 07:00 am

Maybe the Giants can pluck those Iggles.

Ummm, not so much.  That was a beat down from start to finish.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 22 Jan 2023, 01:06 pm
Yeah, they must have washed their lucky socks.
I turned it off late in the 2nd quarter.
The Eagles looked REALLY good, congratulations to them.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 22 Jan 2023, 01:51 pm
The Giants had a good year, much better than anyone expected.  With a healthy Hurts the Eagles are a juggernaut that will be very hard to stop, it just wasn't a fair fight.  Unfortunately for the Eagles with their free agency picture this is a one and done year wherever they finish, they won't be close to the same team next year.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rollo on 22 Jan 2023, 07:22 pm
  Turned it off when no National Anthem was shown.

charles
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 22 Jan 2023, 07:27 pm
  Turned it off when no National Anthem was shown.

charles

well, if you were at the game ........... :green:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 22 Jan 2023, 07:40 pm
  Turned it off when no National Anthem was shown.

charles

I don’t blame you when Fox went live and the players were in the field is was like “ hey no national anthem wtf”
As an Iggles fan I’m happy they won but FOX’s coverage was dismal! Far too many commercials with commentators carrying on about their supposed advanced football knowledge. Just call the game!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: dpatters on 22 Jan 2023, 08:46 pm
The Giants had a good year, much better than anyone expected.  With a healthy Hurts the Eagles are a juggernaut that will be very hard to stop, it just wasn't a fair fight.  Unfortunately for the Eagles with their free agency picture this is a one and done year wherever they finish, they won't be close to the same team next year.
Eagles have two first round draft picks, cap space and a quarterback friendly contract. Howie Roseman does an excellent job. Let Miles Sanders walk. Paying big money on running backs is foolish. Gainwell rushed for 112 yards. It’s the offensive line and Hurts that makes the running backs go. I expect the Eagles to compete for NFC East for a number of years to come. Certainly not a one and done.

Don P
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 23 Jan 2023, 04:57 am
eagles look very very good pummeling the giants -- should be a serious heavyweight fight against the niners...  cowboys played the niners so tough today, nail biter all the way!

burrows is somethin'.... with three starting offensive linemen out, cincy trucked the sad bills with reserves (i didn't think von miller was so key to that hapless defense, wait... isn't mcdermott a defensive guy?  :duh:  -- bengals offensive scheming was really excellent - showdown with mahomes next week! 

two superb championship games coming among 4 highly deserving winners
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 23 Jan 2023, 01:02 pm
Eagles have two first round draft picks, cap space and a quarterback friendly contract. Howie Roseman does an excellent job. Let Miles Sanders walk. Paying big money on running backs is foolish. Gainwell rushed for 112 yards. It’s the offensive line and Hurts that makes the running backs go. I expect the Eagles to compete for NFC East for a number of years to come. Certainly not a one and done.

Don P

You're right about Roseman, Howie is just the best.  He did lose Andy Leidl, the director of player personnel, to the Steelers, who was a big part of the talent evaluation process, but that doesn't make him instantly dumb.  However you couldn't be more wrong about the free agent situation with the Eagles having over twenty free agents including Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, Myles Sanders, Javon Hargraves, Robert Quinn, Jason Kelsey, James Bradbury, TJ Edwards, Chauncey Garner Johnson, Isaac Semaluo,  Andre Dillard, Marcus Epps, and Linval Joseph.  That's a huge part of the team at risk.

Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 23 Jan 2023, 05:02 pm
Sean McDermott get fired yet ? man I sure hope so .........
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rollo on 23 Jan 2023, 05:49 pm
I don’t blame you when Fox went live and the players were in the field is was like “ hey no national anthem wtf”
As an Iggles fan I’m happy they won but FOX’s coverage was dismal! Far too many commercials with commentators carrying on about their supposed advanced football knowledge. Just call the game!


 CBS, NBC as well. Oh well Hockey is it now.

charles
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 24 Jan 2023, 03:50 am
Sean McDermott get fired yet ? man I sure hope so .........

dabol gone, josh just hasn't looked the same, too loosey goosey, way too much hero ball... all cuz there is zero run game threat

bills management better think this through... josh allen certainly has what it takes to be an all time great, should be able to deliver multiple championships ... they are on the verge of wasting him with a poor coaching staff, being bridesmaids every year, tease with potential but never delivering
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 26 Jan 2023, 01:36 pm
Fabulous matchups this weekend.  Niners at Eagles is pretty well set at -2.5 for the home team which is about as even as you can get.  Contrary to popular knowledge the home field advantage is really 2.5 to 2.8 points, not the 3 points commonly quoted, so this one is dead even.  Both teams are powerhouse juggernauts with more big, fast guys than I've seen on teams for years.  The Eagles will test Purdy and the 49ers will try to stop the run, should be fun.

Bengals at KC is another great game.  Can the KC Royals finally throw off the Burrows monkey?  Will Mahomes be mobile enough to be effective?  The difference may be the Chief's running game and can they protect the QB with it.  The line is bouncing back and forth over one point on either side depending on how Mahomes practices.

The best two games in decades.  WooHoo!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 26 Jan 2023, 08:45 pm
gotta agree with Letitroll !!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 29 Jan 2023, 11:01 pm
Best part of the Eagles game was the fight at the end.
Let's see who they play in the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 30 Jan 2023, 12:19 am
niners needed alot to go right to have a chance to win in philly....  that prospect ended awfully early after kickoff...  niners defense played valiantly for a bit but then with all the turmoil and trying too hard, the wheels came off...  congrats to iggles, and their very well deserved place in s b
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: stlrman on 30 Jan 2023, 02:34 am
This Chiefs / Bengals game is something else !!! Wow 🤩
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 30 Jan 2023, 12:15 pm
I was at my son's house for the Eagles Niners game and we went out at half time to grab food.  Got back and the game was in the third quarter with Purdy at QB.  To my knowledge the announcers never explained why he was playing the rest of the game.  Now I had my grandson hollering about every new thing appearing on his Nintendo throughout the game, and of course I have to acknowledge every magical character, so I certainly could have missed it.  Regardless, the Eagles crushed the 49ers remnants in a snooze fest.

Joseph Ossai is still kicking himself this morning over a razor thin contest in the AFC Championship.  I feel bad for the kid.  KC may have got a few yards with 8 seconds left, but not likely 15 yards.  A great game anyway.  And now we have the Kelsey Bowl with Andy Reid facing his old team, what a story.

And once again the refs become the story.  The incomplete completion, the ball hitting the camera wire that only the refs didn't see, the third down do over, and the aforementioned roughing call.  Ridiculous.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Scroof Neachy on 30 Jan 2023, 04:04 pm

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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 30 Jan 2023, 04:22 pm
bengals got short end of stick on calls for sure, but it was their fault they didn't get the game to ot

big andy reid back to super bowl against his old team is a storyline written by the football gods

will be a heck of a game
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: glynnw on 30 Jan 2023, 04:39 pm
About a year ago I bought an 85" TV and football on it is SO MUCH BETTER.  I can actually see the effort involved.  During one of the 2 games on Sunday one of the players got hit so hard that his mouthpiece flew out several feet.  I'd never see that on a smaller set.  A great toy.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Scroof Neachy on 30 Jan 2023, 06:35 pm
Funny you should mention this; I thought the game seemed more “real” for some reason. The hits were really jarring. Maybe closer camera angles?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 31 Jan 2023, 01:41 am
pitchers & catchers report when ? can't come soon enough !   :D
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 31 Jan 2023, 11:35 am
pitchers & catchers report when ? can't come soon enough !   :D

Participation in this thread falls off dramatically every year when the losers drop off.  I don't know of any Chief fans here and I think Chris and I are the only Eagle fans, so I predict a short read from now on.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 31 Jan 2023, 11:58 am
I think Chris and I are the only Eagle fans, so I predict a short read from now on.

Yup!

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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 31 Jan 2023, 02:45 pm
The Eagles are a really good team this year, they pretty much mashed everybody flat.
I think this is going to be a really good Super Bowl.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 1 Feb 2023, 02:16 pm
What a momentus day in football.  Tom Brady, the GOAT, retires for real, we think.  Sean Payton is hired by the Broncos.  Wadda ya think?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 1 Feb 2023, 03:16 pm
It’s time for TB12 to ride off into the sunset. He made his mark and an impressive mark it is on the game. Now he can devote his time to his kids and help raise the next TB12.
Payton is a great coach with a proven track record. Kinda think if he can’t turn the Bronks around then who? Should be an interesting year for them.

GO IGGLES!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 1 Feb 2023, 04:21 pm
What a momentus day in football.  Tom Brady, the GOAT, retires for real, we think.  Sean Payton is hired by the Broncos.  Wadda ya think?

I was hoping the Bills would fire McDermott (useless) and hire Payton, oh well, it's Bflo, can't expect much......

Hopefully the upcoming 'Kelce Bowl' will be an entertaining one. I was down to the Auto Show Monday in Philly (worst show ever) and the faithful were out in their Green !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 2 Feb 2023, 11:13 am
I was hoping the Bills would fire McDermott (useless) and hire Payton, oh well, it's Bflo, can't expect much......

Ya know, I've come to realize that I really don't know much about what makes a great head coach beyond their W/L record and how they call time outs.  And judging by their performance I don't think GMs and owners know much more than I do.  Half of the online pundits think Payton is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the other half thinks he's a fugese fraud who got lucky in one Superbowl.  So I'm pretty sure they don't know either.  Looking at great coaches of the past doesn't help much either, Bill Parcels and Chuck Noll were both great coaches and couldn't be more different.  The only common thread between all the greats is that they could find and hire great staffs.  We'll see what Payton can do in Colorado.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 2 Feb 2023, 02:39 pm
Ya know, I've come to realize that I really don't know much about what makes a great head coach beyond their W/L record and how they call time outs.  And judging by their performance I don't think GMs and owners know much more than I do.  Half of the online pundits think Payton is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the other half thinks he's a fugese fraud who got lucky in one Superbowl.  So I'm pretty sure they don't know either.  Looking at great coaches of the past doesn't help much either, Bill Parcels and Chuck Noll were both great coaches and couldn't be more different.  The only common thread between all the greats is that they could find and hire great staffs.  We'll see what Payton can do in Colorado.

Point taken and I agree.  Modern athletes are a fragile bunch IMO so chemistry is a big part of the equation. Just look at the superb job Rob Thomson did with the Phillies after he took over mid-saeson last year !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 4 Feb 2023, 11:23 am
Baseball, isn't that a quaint sport handed down from the 1800s?  Going to the game offers a pleasant social interaction with all the beer, food, and conversation filling up the long interludes between any action.  Baseball is like 19th century warfare, months of boredom interspersed with moments of terror.  Football is like modern warfare, constant combat interspersed by short breaks to regroup.  The problem with both football and war is that you can't maintain the casualty rates for very long.  We have two very wounded teams going into the game.  Hurts will certainly require clean up surgery after the season and Mahomes won't be fully healed for another month or two.  The owners want to go to 18 games in order to shove even more money in their pockets, while I think they should go back to 14 games, give each team two of three byes, and eliminate the preseason.  Or transition to flag or two hand touch.  The human body is not meant to go through such trauma.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 4 Feb 2023, 12:30 pm
Couldn’t agree more! The game is now played by super humans at all positions. Today there are coaches/trainers for all aspects of a players needs. Mental, strength, and nutrition conditioning from Pop Warner/Jr High/High School/College/Pro are available. Thing is the human body can only handle so much and eventually it does catch up. Most of these guys are in one form or another seriously debilitated for life! The game has become so technical too with super slow-mo replays that hold everything up. “Did the ball wobble before he was down?” Just play the f^(k*ng game!!
The NFL has been printing money for years. Teams are multi billion dollar corporations where the bottom line is more important than any players health! 18 games is way too much! I like 16 games with 2 bye weeks and 2 preseason games.

Rant over…where’s my bran muffin?

Go Iggles!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 7 Feb 2023, 09:36 pm
According to my grandson, Eagles by 17 .........  :P
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 7 Feb 2023, 09:57 pm
According to my grandson, Eagles by 17 .........  :P


Smart kid!  :D
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Emil on 8 Feb 2023, 12:20 pm
Yeah. its a Philly thing. :lol:
Go Birds

https://billypenn.com/2023/02/07/jury-duty-philadelphia-go-birds-roll-call/

Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 8 Feb 2023, 12:36 pm
Yes it is!

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/video/its-a-philly-thing-eagles-playoff-hype-video-giants
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 8 Feb 2023, 12:39 pm
According to my grandson, Eagles by 17 .........  :P

Two very good teams, either can get on top of the other and dominate.  I'm with your grandson, I think the Eagles will get ahead early and often and will control the game eliminating the issue with Hurts shoulder which isn't getting better with rest and recovery like Mahomes ankle is.  But if Hurts misses receivers badly like in the AFC Championship the KC Royals may grab some interceptions and flip that script.  Should be fun.  One of my son's is hosting this year with his 85" 4k TV and the reclining sectional with my other son coming over.  They're all Steeler fans and don't really care that much, I've no clue if they'll rub it in it the Eagles lose or they'll stand by Grandpa regardless.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Scroof Neachy on 8 Feb 2023, 03:43 pm

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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 9 Feb 2023, 03:59 pm
So many of us here are in the older demographic.  How many have seen every single Superbowl?  All the way back to January 1967, the NFL-AFL Championship game.  I have.  My dad was a big sports fan, but hated the AFL.  So he viewed it as a farce, the AFL will never complete, and he was never so satisfied when Green Bay won.  And never so upset when Broadway Joe and the Jets won in Superbowl III.  So who else has watched them all?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: dpatters on 9 Feb 2023, 04:20 pm
I’ve seen them all.

Don P
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Emil on 9 Feb 2023, 06:49 pm
So many of us here are in the older demographic.  How many have seen every single Superbowl?  All the way back to January 1967, the NFL-AFL Championship game.  I have.  My dad was a big sports fan, but hated the AFL.  So he viewed it as a farce, the AFL will never complete, and he was never so satisfied when Green Bay won.  And never so upset when Broadway Joe and the Jets won in Superbowl III.  So who else has watched them all?[/img]

I've been to one when I was 14!
Super Bowl X in 1976. Steelers vs Cowboys.
Tickets were $20 face value. Dad paid $40 and bought them from a scalper the day of the game!. Probably $200 in todays money.
Tickets going high 7 figures today

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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 9 Feb 2023, 10:15 pm
Two very good teams, either can get on top of the other and dominate.  I'm with your grandson, I think the Eagles will get ahead early and often and will control the game eliminating the issue with Hurts shoulder which isn't getting better with rest and recovery like Mahomes ankle is.  But if Hurts misses receivers badly like in the AFC Championship the KC Royals may grab some interceptions and flip that script.  Should be fun.  One of my son's is hosting this year with his 85" 4k TV and the reclining sectional with my other son coming over.  They're all Steeler fans and don't really care that much, I've no clue if they'll rub it in it the Eagles lose or they'll stand by Grandpa regardless.

sounds like fun and I agree with your assessment, just kick back and hope for an entertaining game !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 9 Feb 2023, 10:22 pm
So many of us here are in the older demographic.  How many have seen every single Superbowl?  All the way back to January 1967, the NFL-AFL Championship game.  I have.  My dad was a big sports fan, but hated the AFL.  So he viewed it as a farce, the AFL will never complete, and he was never so satisfied when Green Bay won.  And never so upset when Broadway Joe and the Jets won in Superbowl III.  So who else has watched them all?

yep, as another old fart I too remember them all. Growing up in Bflo it was tough to see the Bills loose to the Chiefs for the rite to the first one only to have them loose four straight in the 90's !

As for your Steeler fans having trouble routing for the Eagles, remind them they were but 'one' during WWII...... the 'Steagles'
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: dburna on 10 Feb 2023, 05:36 am
Yup!

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Nope - one more Eagles fan here. PA born and raised. GO EAGLES!!

I'll be wearing my #62 Kelce jersey and watching every minute of the game with rapt attention.

-dGB
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 11 Feb 2023, 09:24 pm
I’m wearing my Reggie White 92 with Jerome Brown patch. Miss those guys…

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=249882)

Go Boids! Nyuk nyuk nyuk
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 12 Feb 2023, 10:54 pm
Got my couch guitars tuned up, coffee made, ate dinner, I'm ready.
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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 13 Feb 2023, 03:28 am
wonderful game, suspenseful, close and toughly fought

legend of patrick mahomes and andy reid continues - smarts and guts - very deserving winners

sorry iggles fans...  the tough thing is, this team won't hold together next year i don't think...
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: MHL on 13 Feb 2023, 03:51 am
Go Chiefs!!!  2 wins in 3 SB's over the last 4 years!  Life is great for Chiefs fans!!!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 13 Feb 2023, 12:55 pm
Mahomes had a courageous performance, but he only dropped back in the pocket twice, and one was a near sack where he tweaked his ankle.  Reid's gameplan to never have Mahomes hold the ball more than 2 seconds won the game.  The Eagles continually beat the Chief's O line only to find an empty hand.  On the other side the Eagles lost the game on three plays.  The Hurts fumble for a touchdown, kicking a fieldgoal instead of going for it on fourth down at the Chiefs 15, and giving up a 65 yard punt return after not running on 3rd and 3 going three and out.  The first one was a possible 14 point flip, the second was a four point flip, the last was a seven point flip.  For me it was the Hurts fumble that changed the game, if the Eagles go up 21-7 they start steamrolling towards the 14 point win I predicted.  Congrats to the Chiefs for a great game.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 13 Feb 2023, 03:30 pm
Go Chiefs!!!  2 wins in 3 SB's over the last 4 years!  Life is great for Chiefs fans!!!


LOL, you show up after the game is over !!!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 13 Feb 2023, 03:31 pm
Mahomes had a courageous performance, but he only dropped back in the pocket twice, and one was a near sack where he tweaked his ankle.  Reid's gameplan to never have Mahomes hold the ball more than 2 seconds won the game.  The Eagles continually beat the Chief's O line only to find an empty hand.  On the other side the Eagles lost the game on three plays.  The Hurts fumble for a touchdown, kicking a fieldgoal instead of going for it on fourth down at the Chiefs 15, and giving up a 65 yard punt return after not running on 3rd and 3 going three and out.  The first one was a possible 14 point flip, the second was a four point flip, the last was a seven point flip.  For me it was the Hurts fumble that changed the game, if the Eagles go up 21-7 they start steamrolling towards the 14 point win I predicted.  Congrats to the Chiefs for a great game.

Again, perfectly said, agreed ! Although I will say the hold penalty near games end was BS !!  I haven't spoken to my grandson yet, I suspect he's still recovering !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Scroof Neachy on 13 Feb 2023, 04:28 pm
Courage and guts? Come on, this guy makes millions of dollars playing a game. He’d run just as fast if his house was on fire.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: MHL on 13 Feb 2023, 04:39 pm

LOL, you show up after the game is over !!!!  :thumb:

3 SB in 4 years with 2 of those resulting in wins because of PM.  Scoreboard!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rockadanny on 13 Feb 2023, 06:17 pm
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the hold penalty near games end was BS
No, not BS. There was one camera angle from above, they showed just once I believe, that clearly showed the hold of receiver's jersey. Stretched out the jersey, so not even minor. Also, the guy called for the hold has admitted it was a hold.
This type of hold does seem to happen a lot and not called, but always should be, if seen.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: newzooreview on 13 Feb 2023, 07:31 pm
The player who committed the foul, James Bradberry, did not dispute the penalty.

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“It was a holding. I tugged his jersey. I was hoping they would let it slide,” Bradberry said after the game.

The Eagles coach was not convinced the one penalty was a big factor in their loss:

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Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni dismissed the idea that the call was solely responsible for the loss of the game, saying, “It always appears to be one call. … That is not what it is. So many teams contribute to the result of the game. Today they were better.”

It was a good game, and in any game both sides would like certain plays back.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rbbert on 13 Feb 2023, 09:01 pm
For a play that is a timed throw to a place on the field, what seems to be a minor infraction is more than enough to totally disrupt the play.  A full speed sprint is more than 10 yards per second; delaying the receiver by even half a second makes it appear that the ball was way overthrown.  If he were not the intended receiver, or if it were a play where Mahomes was watching the receiver and planning his throw to the receiver rather than to a place, this might not have been called (or mattered).
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rbbert on 13 Feb 2023, 09:03 pm
Courage and guts? Come on, this guy makes millions of dollars playing a game. He’d run just as fast if his house was on fire.

Obviously coming from someone who has never had a syndesmotic (i.e., high ankle) sprain.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 13 Feb 2023, 10:17 pm
The reason the defensive holding call was bullcrap was that the refs were letting it go the entire game until that point.  Bradbury had been playing a little handsy on numerous previous plays without a flag, then suddenly at the most important stop of the game it gets called.  The lack of consistency is the issue.  Players to go the sidelines and talk about what is being called and what's not, all they want is consistency.  The other side of it is that we were robbed of a great finish.  The Chiefs would have made the medium length field goal, but the Eagles would have 120 seconds to make a miracle happen, or not.  Possible overtime, an AJ Brown touchdown, Hurts not making it on fourth down, all more exciting than Mahomes kneeling three times.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rbbert on 13 Feb 2023, 10:21 pm
The reason the defensive holding call was bullcrap was that the refs were letting it go the entire game until that point...

IME this is not unusual (along with blown calls), either during the regular season or in the playoffs, this year and past years...
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: jjss49 on 13 Feb 2023, 10:22 pm
granted that defensive holding call was not ideal given the moment -- but the eagles were 0 for 4 in the second half preventing kc from scoring in any of their possessions - touchdown-touchdown-touchdown consecutively (those completely open, unchallenged short passes on the 2 td's were an embarrassment for the defense)...and then the field goal -- as i see it they deserved to lose based on that reality alone, not to mention the fumble and punt return mistakes

focusing on the ref's call entirely misses the forest from the trees i think - eagles were outplayed and outcoached in all 3 phases, despite jalen hurts and eagles o-line playing one heck of a game, giving them a shot till the end...
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: newzooreview on 13 Feb 2023, 11:14 pm
The ESPN game analysis is a good, detailed, and balanced discussion of the game.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35649198/how-patrick-mahomes-chiefs-played-perfect-second-half-super-bowl-2023-nfl-win-jalen-hurts-eagles

It really was a hell of a game. Right up there with the collapse of the Falcons vs. Patriots and the Saints Superbowl win (for me).
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: twitch54 on 14 Feb 2023, 02:25 pm
granted that defensive holding call was not ideal given the moment -- but the eagles were 0 for 4 in the second half preventing kc from scoring in any of their possessions - touchdown-touchdown-touchdown consecutively (those completely open, unchallenged short passes on the 2 td's were an embarrassment for the defense)...and then the field goal -- as i see it they deserved to lose based on that reality alone, not to mention the fumble and punt return mistakes

focusing on the ref's call entirely misses the forest from the trees i think - eagles were outplayed and outcoached in all 3 phases, despite jalen hurts and eagles o-line playing one heck of a game, giving them a shot till the end...

Yep, I give Andy Reid credit for he has done something far better in KC than the years here in Philly, half-time adj and clock management !
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rbbert on 14 Feb 2023, 02:30 pm
The ESPN game analysis is a good, detailed, and balanced discussion of the game.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35649198/how-patrick-mahomes-chiefs-played-perfect-second-half-super-bowl-2023-nfl-win-jalen-hurts-eagles...

Oh c'mon, this guy must be a Chief's fan  :lol:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: MHL on 14 Feb 2023, 07:38 pm
Oh c'mon, this guy must be a Chief's fan  :lol:

So you must be a Philly fan I guess using that logic  :D
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 14 Feb 2023, 08:02 pm
Good game congrats to the Chiefs hope to se ya again in SB 58!

Go Iggles!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: VinceT on 14 Feb 2023, 09:03 pm
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Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: dpatters on 14 Feb 2023, 10:02 pm
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What more can I say?

Don P
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 14 Feb 2023, 11:06 pm
Good game congrats to the Chiefs hope to se ya again in SB 58!

Go Iggles!

Seeing some of the local reaction to AZ hiring the Eagles DC Jonathon Gannon as the Cardinals next HC, everyone is in disbelief. I’ve read mix reactions where the Eagles team wanted to keep him but fans have been calling for his head the past two seasons. Any thoughts on Gannon leaving Philly?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 14 Feb 2023, 11:11 pm
Not so much he’s leaving but it who’s taking his place same with Shane Stieken.
We’ll see how it rolls out along with a whole lotta guys will be free agents too.
It’s always something!
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 15 Feb 2023, 01:54 pm
Not so much he’s leaving but it who’s taking his place same with Shane Stieken.
We’ll see how it rolls out along with a whole lotta guys will be free agents too.
It’s always something!
I predict the Eagles are going to fall off a cliff next year.  Losing both OC and DC, along with an incredible number of free agent starters and likely retirements, it's going to be a tough road for Sirianni to repeat an appearance in the Superbowl.  Then there's the loser hangover factor.

Regarding my last post I wasn't interfering the defensive holding call determined the game, it didn't, I was answering that it was total bs, which it was.  The best analysis I heard was on PFT, the Eagles were ten points ahead at the half even after giving up a cheap 7 and their plan was to do like they had always done, hold the ball and run it down their throats.  While the Chiefs thought holy crap, we're 10 points down, we better change things up.  AJ Brown said that when we went up 27-21 I thought we might lose.  Essentially saying Sirianni blew it thinking he could play Patrick Mahomes the same way he played Purdy or Prescott.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: SteveFord on 24 Apr 2023, 09:27 pm
Getting ahead of things a little bit but this might cheer up the Jets fans:
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/finally-packers-reportedly-complete-trade-to-send-qb-aaron-rodgers-to-jets-202126101.html
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: FireGuy on 24 Apr 2023, 09:33 pm
Sweet.  Josh Allen Vs. Rogers twice a year.  No doubt will somewhat test the Bills' mettle.  I'm all in. 
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 25 Apr 2023, 09:51 am
What's the success rate of HOF level QBs moving to new teams late in their career?  Kurt Warner did well, Manning won a Superbowl, but mostly they played okay for a year or two and retired.  That's what I see here.
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 28 Apr 2023, 10:09 am
The first round of the draft is in.  My teams did great, the Eagles got the best player in the draft moving up one spot to pick D tackleJalen Carter at 9.  Then the Steelers move up to 14 to snag left tackle Broderick Jones to mostly complete their O line rebuild.  I couldn't be happier with their picks, how did your team do?
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: dpatters on 28 Apr 2023, 10:39 am
Howie Roseman strikes again. Two great picks for the Eagles.

Don P
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: dpatters on 29 Apr 2023, 08:47 pm
A++ for the Eagles. Great draft picks plus the trade for D’Andre Swift. Knocked it out of the park. Kudos to the Steelers for getting Joey Porter Jr to continue the legacy.

Don P
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: rodge827 on 29 Apr 2023, 10:00 pm
Not all is good for Philly Howard Eskin said he would retire if the Iggles drafted Bijan Robinson. Looks like we have to put up with him a while longer!  :x :duh:
Title: Re: NFL 2022/23
Post by: Letitroll98 on 30 Apr 2023, 08:47 am
Not all is good for Philly Howard Eskin said he would retire if the Iggles drafted Bijan Robinson. Looks like we have to put up with him a while longer!  :x :duh:

It's Howard still alive?  He had a little national spritz with some spots on ESPN then fell off the map.  I thought he must have retired after he was mia during the Superbowl national broadcasts.

The Eagles seemed a little disjointed after round one, like they're so loaded that they didn't know who to pick.  Both Streen and Smith are a bit of a reach.  I've seen this happen with top ranked teams who have loaded rosters, they take chances and swing for the fences because they're not desperate to fill a position.

The Steelers on the other hand crushed it.  Great picks all the way to the end of the seventh round.  They had to replace the left tackle and got the only pure left tackle in the first round.  They needed a press corner and got Joey Porter Jr at 32.  Every pic filled a need with a quality player, I think they had the best draft of any team in the league.  The worst, the Lions were terrible.  The NFL analyst lady is a lions fan and had her head in her hands with every pick.  At one point the Patriots picked right after the Lions and she said it the Patriots pick an edge rusher I'm going to scream.  Of course they picked an edge rusher and she was apoplectic.