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Title: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 4 Sep 2020, 02:59 pm
Our new DAC DAC 3 Kickstarter:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalampco/cherry-dac-dac-3

We are at 87% already, less than one day into the program!

Please help us spread the word (:
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: radarnyc on 4 Sep 2020, 03:42 pm
Help me out, am i missing something here? I see amp options on the Kickstarter but no DAC dac 3 option . Thanks
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 4 Sep 2020, 04:01 pm
Help me out, am i missing something here? I see amp options on the Kickstarter but no DAC dac 3 option . Thanks
Adding that reward for the public today.  Newsletter subscribers that requested our first day specials had first crack at our new DAC.

We will be adding new rewards and information as we, go based on requests.

On Kickstarter, you can opt into alerts about selected projects.

Thanks.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 4 Sep 2020, 05:03 pm
Rewards added on the first day of the project:
  - DAC DAC 3
  - x-CHerry (multi-channel) Amplifiers
  - Stereo MEGAschino MK2 Amplifier
  - MONO MEGAschino MK2 Amplifiers

Some rewards are more than 70% off regular prices !!

We are close to 100% funded and less than 24 hours in.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 4 Sep 2020, 06:10 pm
122% so far!

Fully funded on DAY ONE !!

Thinking about a stretch goal....  Possibly a MEGA jr  :scratch:

Thanks so much to our incredible backers (:
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: DRHamp on 4 Sep 2020, 09:04 pm
How about adding the 60V supply to the list :)
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: dwmaggie on 4 Sep 2020, 11:34 pm
 :thumb: Yahoo   Congratulations.  Hope you can bring your project to fruition sooner and under budget.  Happy day for you and your crew.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: Jonathon Janusz on 5 Sep 2020, 02:52 am
Congratulations on quickly meeting your goal!  It seems like kickstarter has really become something DAC does very well!

Interesting to read that this new DAC will have multiple inputs.  I'm curious as to why - in spite of consistently pursuing and promoting the advantages of the shortest signal path possible - integral USB input is (again) excluded, I'm presuming in favor of leaving it outboard using the existing external converter/adapter?  Have most audiophiles using external non-volume controlled DACs given up on computer-based front ends with USB output?  It seems like the longest segment in the signal path on DAC DAC anymore is a few cm worth of wire with a pair of (relatively) big external connectors that connect the DAC to the USB converter.  Wouldn't shrinking that connection down to maybe a cm worth of copper board traces (considering it looks like there's plenty of room on the DAC DAC board to integrate the USB converter) be the biggest bang for the buck in terms of shortening the signal path?
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 5 Sep 2020, 09:52 pm
Congratulations on quickly meeting your goal!  It seems like kickstarter has really become something DAC does very well!

Interesting to read that this new DAC will have multiple inputs.  I'm curious as to why - in spite of consistently pursuing and promoting the advantages of the shortest signal path possible - integral USB input is (again) excluded, I'm presuming in favor of leaving it outboard using the existing external converter/adapter?  Have most audiophiles using external non-volume controlled DACs given up on computer-based front ends with USB output?  It seems like the longest segment in the signal path on DAC DAC anymore is a few cm worth of wire with a pair of (relatively) big external connectors that connect the DAC to the USB converter.  Wouldn't shrinking that connection down to maybe a cm worth of copper board traces (considering it looks like there's plenty of room on the DAC DAC board to integrate the USB converter) be the biggest bang for the buck in terms of shortening the signal path?
Thanks for your kind words.

Regarding the signal path, the digital domain provides immunity to signal degradation over distance -- considering practical distances within a household.  The jitter immunity of the DAC DAC allows worry-free digital signalling for a "lossless digital path", and adding a selector doesn't affect performance.  This is one reason we made the volume control digital on the DAC DAC 2 HSV.  This preserves the very sensitive ANALOG signal path.

Regarding USB, we have a solution for USB audio sources (Cherry USB), and it's not used as frequently as in the past.  We are finding that internet audio streamers (like the Node 2i that we use, or our old Squeezebox Touch) are becoming the most common source of audio data.  Least popular these days is a disc (CD/DVD/Blu-Ray) transport, which was number one years ago, and that's pretty much the only situation a volume control on the DAC is necessary.  Otherwise, the source is a computer or streamer, which very likely includes a volume control.  Well, there's the "TV source", which is usually optical, and may or may not require volume control, but this is another outlier.

We also have another solution for the volume control issue when a non-volume controlled data source drives a non-volume controlled DAC DAC  -- the STM amplifier with it's purely analog volume control.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 5 Sep 2020, 09:59 pm
Thanks again to our wonderful BACKERS !!

We are up to 142% already, only two days into the program (:
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 9 Sep 2020, 03:20 pm
How about adding the 60V supply to the list :)
Added today!!
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3 - 60V Upgrade
Post by: DRHamp on 10 Sep 2020, 06:03 pm
Added today!!

Thanks Tommy, I'm on it :D
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: pompon on 10 Sep 2020, 07:09 pm
I am in 3 way active setup.

I am considering the stereo maraschino to power my tweeters (raal 140-15d, 95db efficiency, 8 ohms).

Considering will power only tweeters (2.8k+) do the x-cherry 2 still have an advantage ?
Do you think I am better with 36 volts =, 48 volts or go with the king 60 volts.

Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 10 Sep 2020, 07:12 pm
I am in 3 way active setup.

I am considering the stereo maraschino to power my tweeters (raal 140-15d, 95db efficiency, 8 ohms).

Considering will power only tweeters (2.8k+) do the x-cherry 2 still have an advantage ?
Do you think I am better with 36 volts =, 48 volts or go with the king 60 volts.
Headroom has the advantage, so 60V may be overkill power wise, but for that “open, airy sound”....
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3 - 60V Upgrade
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 10 Sep 2020, 07:14 pm
Thanks Tommy, I'm on it :D
Thanks to your pledge, we are now at 152%!!
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 15 Sep 2020, 04:20 am
We added these rewards tonight:
  - DAC DAC 1 (HS or TL) Upgrade to DAC DAC 3 or 3S
  - DAC DAC 2 (HS or HSV) Upgrade to DAC DAC 3 or 3S
 
The project link:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalampco/cherry-dac-dac-3
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: rodge827 on 15 Sep 2020, 11:57 am
Tommy maybe I missed it somewhere...can you post the difference between the DACDAC3 and 3S?

Thanks,

Chris
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 15 Sep 2020, 12:04 pm
Tommy maybe I missed it somewhere...can you post the difference between the DACDAC3 and 3S?

Thanks,

Chris
3S has an input selector (coax or optical).   Thanks (:
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: rodge827 on 15 Sep 2020, 12:11 pm
3S has an input selector (coax or optical).   Thanks (:

Thanks Tommy!  :thumb:
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: RonN5 on 17 Sep 2020, 05:10 pm
Will the DACDAC3 have a volume control or will the unit have to be returned to have it added at a later date?
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 17 Sep 2020, 05:39 pm
Will the DACDAC3 have a volume control or will the unit have to be returned to have it added at a later date?
We plan to add a volume control later, so you are correct.  There’s less demand for the volume controlled version of the DAC DAC 2 these days, probably because most systems use a streamer with it’s own digital attenuation.  We might not do the “knob kind” this version, and we might add a remote.  As always, we’ll have an upgrade program that’s quick and easy.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 17 Sep 2020, 05:40 pm
We’re currently at 168% with less than a week to go!

Note that most rewards have limited quantity available.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: pompon on 18 Sep 2020, 03:53 pm
Hello,

x-cherry 3 channel have double or triple rail ?
Web page tell double rail and the kickstarter tell triple.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 18 Sep 2020, 05:55 pm
Hello,

x-cherry 3 channel have double or triple rail ?
Web page tell double rail and the kickstarter tell triple.
Thanks for the spot!  Didn’t realize about the site having outdated info.  We originally couldn’t fit triple caps in the 3-CHerry, but we redesigned the enclosure so now they fit!

So, 2-CHerry and 3-CHerry have triple rail caps, 4-CHerry and 5-CHerry have double rail caps.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 19 Sep 2020, 03:24 am
Limited time reward....  Cherry MEGA MK2 LC Stereo Amplifier.  $2900 for a 2-Channel Cherry MEGA MK2.  Here's more info:
Here's a product that hasn't been officially announced yet.  Our NEW Lower Cost MEGAschino MK2 Stereo LC (2-channel) Cherry Amp!  This version of the Cherry MEGA has no faceplate (logo is silk-screened on the front), single rail capacitance, Dayton posts, and our new 400W ultra low noise toroidal transformer.  Less power output (500Wpc into 4 ohms dynamic power) than the standard MEGA, but every bit a Cherry!
MEGAschino MK2 LC Stereo NEW -- $2900
120VAC Mains. Neutrik RCA-to-XLR adapters included. Shipping charged separately. Backer is responsible for all taxes and duties when shipping outside USA.


Only 4 of these available.  Offer starts noon EDT Sept 21 (Monday) and ends noon EDT Sept 22 (Tuesday).

This is a special offer only available through our Kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalampco/cherry-dac-dac-3
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 21 Sep 2020, 05:15 pm
Quick Update:  Currently at 266% with 69 HOURS left!!

Only 22 hours left on the MEGAschino MK2 Stereo LC offer.
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 24 Sep 2020, 12:26 am
14 hours left  :o
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 25 Sep 2020, 06:39 am
We did it!!  Thanks to our 26 backers 🙂

288% funded
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: DRHamp on 13 Feb 2021, 01:09 pm
Can we have an update on this project please?
Title: Re: New Kickstarter — Cherry DAC DAC 3
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 13 Feb 2021, 03:15 pm
Can we have an update on this project please?
We have the enclosures and we’re in layout currently.  ETA on new boards is now mid-March.