burned voice coils

blueaudiodon · « **on:** 10 Mar 2009, 06:02 pm »

I just bought an used pair of jr's and it appears to have 2 bass drivers in one cabinet with burned voice calls. Anybody know where to get new drivers or voice coils repaired?

Thanks,
Donnie

jeffreybehr · « **Reply #1 on:** 10 Mar 2009, 07:39 pm »

Have you contacted the manufacturer?

McTwins · « **Reply #2 on:** 10 Mar 2009, 08:37 pm »

How did that happend?

blueaudiodon · « **Reply #3 on:** 10 Mar 2009, 10:04 pm »

Yes, I emailed VSA today. No idea what happened. Brought them home, hooked them up and played an album and then put on Holly Cole and discovered a lot of rattle in one of the cabinets.

McTwins · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 01:30 pm »

Do you know what amp the previous owner had?

He must pushed them very hard. I mean, didn't he told it to you that there was somthing wrong.

Thanks

es347 · « **Reply #5 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 05:08 pm »

Quote from: blueaudiodon on 10 Mar 2009, 10:04 pm

Yes, I emailed VSA today. No idea what happened. Brought them home, hooked them up and played an album and then put on Holly Cole and discovered a lot of rattle in one of the cabinets.

Holly Cole? Well that explains it

blueaudiodon · « **Reply #6 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 05:19 pm »

I don't know what he was using. The thing is, I listened to a couple cuts from a Patricia Barber cd and sounded great. He did have a Velodyne sub hooked up and I questioned him why. He said it was low passed at 50hz and barely turned up. I can play 90% material and not hear the noise. I can run a tone on it and it goes crazy around 60hz. And Holly Coles Double bass drives it nuts.

McTwins · « **Reply #7 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 05:29 pm »

Ok I see

What amp do you use and how is it connected?
Maybe its a room mode issue?

blueaudiodon · « **Reply #8 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 05:42 pm »

I am bi-amping with 4 100w mono amps. However, i have tried an 845 triode with single wire (sounded horrible). I am sure it is voice coils because of the terrible scraping noise when I manually push the cone in and out on these 2 specific drivers. The other 2 are smooth and quiet. Am I thinking wrong?

McTwins · « **Reply #9 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 05:56 pm »

You are not thinking wrong

If you say that it is a scraping noisy sound then there is something broken.
Your former owner must done something terrible with it, or connected it in a wrong manner.

What brands of amps?

blueaudiodon · « **Reply #10 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 06:04 pm »

The 845 is Dared VP-845 intergrated and the four monos are connected to a Kenwood KM-X1 THX 6 channel amp with Audible Illusions pre.

McTwins · « **Reply #11 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 06:17 pm »

Sorry, dont understand.

So you mean that the four monos amp are connected via your Kenwood amp.

I understand about the Dared.

blueaudiodon · « **Reply #12 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 06:31 pm »

My bad... the 4 monos are 4 mono channels of the six in the Kenwood. They sound very good for an old and non expensive amp. These speakers sound so great on 90% of the material(maybe 99%) that I hate to give them back. If I could just find the replacement drivers. I talked to VSA yesterday and they do not have mk1's in stock. However they have MK2. Could I replace all 4 drivers with mk2 and be ok or is there a different xover?

McTwins · « **Reply #13 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 06:38 pm »

OK, now its better.
But what are you doing with the other two posts?

Couldn't the VSA answer the question for you.

blueaudiodon · « **Reply #14 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 06:43 pm »

The other 2 posts are left unused. I have tried to contact VSA again today, but no answer. I will try again and question about the difference.

McTwins · « **Reply #15 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 06:48 pm »

They can answer the question for you

Can you run the amp in that way, just curious.

blueaudiodon · « **Reply #16 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 06:59 pm »

Yes, it is nothing more than six individual amps in one case. I have run these amps like this for a number of years, off and on, and they keep on singing. I have just talked to VSA again and Joe says that the mk2 is different xover and silver in color. He is still trying to locate me some mk1's at a warehouse.

McTwins · « **Reply #17 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 07:04 pm »

Understand

Hope they find new drivers for you.

blueaudiodon · « **Reply #18 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 07:18 pm »

Thank you!!!

kgturner · « **Reply #19 on:** 11 Mar 2009, 08:16 pm »

call me paranoid, but i think the guy who sold you the speakers probably knew there was any issue and that's why he had them low-passed to the velodyne. this is part of the reason why i always demo speakers full range and insist that all subs in the room are disconnected. hopefully joe can help you out, otherwise it might be kinda costly for a new set of mkII crossovers and 4 new bass drivers.

kevin t