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Industry Circles => Well Tempered Lab => Topic started by: Mike Pranka on 25 Feb 2010, 02:11 pm

Title: Welcome
Post by: Mike Pranka on 25 Feb 2010, 02:11 pm
Welcome to the WTL Circle! Both myself and Mike Thomson at WTL in New Zealand look forward to answering any questions that we can. I hope this forum will facilitate lighthearted exchange about one of the audio world's most unique and enduring designs- Bill Firebaugh's Well Tempered Lab turntable.

Mike
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: Scott F. on 25 Feb 2010, 09:06 pm
Hiya Mike,

Congrats on the new WTL Circle  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: TheChairGuy on 25 Feb 2010, 10:43 pm
Very cool  :thumb:  Howdy Mike.

John
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: JakeJ on 25 Feb 2010, 10:54 pm
Congrats to Mike and WTL!  Analog is still best to my old ears.

Best Regards,
Jake
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: SteveFord on 27 Feb 2010, 02:53 pm
Glad to find this!  I have an older Well Tempered which sat new and unused in a friend's basement for years.  It took years to get him to dig it out and part with it but it's found a good home. 
It's just a tremendous product with such clever engineering; it really shows up the CDs.
It's actually leveled a bit better than this crummy photo shows.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=27245)
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: threadkiller on 27 Feb 2010, 11:14 pm
Looks nice.  Should sound great if setup well...
Mine never did have a dustcover.
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: Triode Pete on 2 Mar 2010, 12:16 am
Excellent! Love my Well Tempered Turntable!!! Who's the local representative in the US?
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=27326)
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: Scott F. on 2 Mar 2010, 01:11 am
That would be Mike Pranka, the moderator of this forum  :green:
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: SteveFord on 2 Mar 2010, 02:47 am
Correct me if I'm mistaken but for the older tables, I believe it's still Stanalog
www.stanalog.com
and Dynavector for the newer models.
www.dynavector-usa.com
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: doak on 3 Mar 2010, 02:32 am
SO glad to see this forum available.   The original WTT was what I used when I returned to vinyl in the early 90's. I've great respect for Bill Firebaugh's designs and am very excited about/interested in the Amadeus.  Will be following this forum to get and keep "up to speed." 

I expect that there will be a Well Tempered Amadeus in my future.

Regards,
Doak
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: SteveFord on 18 Mar 2010, 12:25 am
The dustcover and hinge kit came from Stanalog and was a bit nerve wracking to install as I had to drill holes in both the table and the cover and get it to mount up properly.  Have to get it right the first time!
Some new albums came in this evening and the sound quality from this turntable/cartridge/phono stage is astonishingly good. 
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: shaker on 19 Mar 2010, 01:13 am
I am the happy owner of a new WTA. Have been re-discovering my vinyl for the past three months via WTA with Dynavector through Shindo. I have sent multiple e-mails inquiring about a dust cover with no reply. Is such a product available? Is there a hinged model?  How can it be purchased?
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: SteveFord on 23 Mar 2010, 10:28 pm
I bought my dustcover and hinge kit from Stanalog
http://stanalog.stores.yahoo.net/accessories.html
My Well Tempered is an older model and the cover measures 14 7/8 x 18 3/8" (give or take) with the hinge itself going down about an inch into the base.  Perhaps that would work on the new ones? 
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: threadkiller on 30 Mar 2010, 02:22 am
Hi Shaker, there was talk of a dustcover of sorts, but I haven't heard, hopefully Mr P will see this and answer.  I have read on PinkFish that some users were looking to source somebody to make dustcovers for them, but haven't seen a followup.

So what Shindo are you using? and with what speakers?  Do tell.....

Thinking about it, I doubt there'd be a hinged model coming, would have to be too tall to clear the arm pillar--perhaps? probably more like a take off and on acrylic type...
Thanks!
Title: Dustcover
Post by: Mike Pranka on 30 Mar 2010, 01:36 pm
Shaker,

Sorry, I haven't received any email regarding dustcovers.. feel free to contact me directly at:

info@dynavector-usa.com

Best,
Mike
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: TerryO on 2 Apr 2010, 01:55 am
Here's my Turntable. It has a Grado "Silver" cartridge and a Hagtech "Bugle" phono stage. While it's not as nicely finished as the production tables, it makes great sound. If you're wondering, I'll just mention that it isn't a clone.

(http://silversaltstudio.com/SilverSaltStudio/diyFest_09_files/Media/IMG_6008/IMG_6008.jpg?)

Best Regards,
TerryO
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: threadkiller on 14 Apr 2010, 04:56 pm
Hey, looks like Firebaugh Jr. at work....
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: SteveFord on 16 Mar 2011, 12:08 pm
My dustcover just answered the hinged vs non-hinged/removable debate for me by popping itself apart where the screws attach to the cover!
Piece uh crap. 
So, I'm now firmly in the removable dust cover camp.
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: doak on 25 Mar 2011, 05:22 pm
SO glad to see this forum available.   The original WTT was what I used when I returned to vinyl in the early 90's. I've great respect for Bill Firebaugh's designs and am very excited about/interested in the Amadeus.  Will be following this forum to get and keep "up to speed." 

I expect that there will be a Well Tempered Amadeus in my future.

Regards,
Doak

Got mine last week!!
The WTA and Decca London Super Gold are a marriage made in music heaven.

Doak
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: gagamut on 23 Apr 2011, 11:31 am
Hi Mike,i'm newbie in here.i have a question about overhang,i saw the WT blog ,and they say the overhang is 0.5,and just want to know 0.5 inches or 0.5 cm,thanks

            Sam
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: phonocentric on 28 Apr 2011, 03:14 pm
Hello Mike, You were probably amused at my desperate email over on the Audiogon forum just before I found out about this wonderful site!

As an old audiophile, definitely phonocentric, everyone here, I'm sure, can understand my desperation at getting my Well Tempered Labs Reference TT/Arm up and running again. 

At any rate, it seems I have found the right place.   I'll read over the posts here and hopefully find a solution to what fluids to use for the arm, perhaps even the platter pivot, what protractor to use, etc. 

If anyone is in the Cincinnati area, will be happy to pay for professional visit to help.  I'm old and shaky now.   Still hear well though!

Thanks,  and can't wait to get those old records playing!  I'm tired of merely sleeping with them.   After our move, they are piled to the ceiling in the bedroom.  Along with Quads, ARC tube gear.  My wife thinks I deserve this fate. 

Jim

Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: gagamut on 2 May 2011, 03:30 am
Hi Jim,Before i got WT Amadeus GTA,i also use WT reference,so i have a WT arm protractor,and i just check the WT reference OVERHANG is 16mm,and inner null point is 69mm,outer null point is 127.2mm,hope can help you.the WT reference is great.


Sam
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: phonocentric on 2 May 2011, 01:13 pm
Hi Jim,Before i got WT Amadeus GTA,i also use WT reference,so i have a WT arm protractor,and i just check the WT reference OVERHANG is 16mm,and inner null point is 69mm,outer null point is 127.2mm,hope can help you.the WT reference is great.

Thanks a lot Sam.  Will need those measurements soon.  Speaking of the WT arm protractor, for the life of me I can't, so far, find the one I was using formerly. 

I wondering if it is necessary to clean out the old damping fluid and put some fresh stuff in there?   Seems to me it was dusty even before I stored the table.  I sure don't want to dismantle very much as my vision isn't so good.   But if there is a way to start over fresh without too much trouble I would.

Would you recommend doing something about the lubricant for the pivot?  I don't remember checking this in the past.   

Do you know if there are any diagrams that show step by step directions for such things?   I've downloaded the manuals for the table and arm but they don't seem very informative.  At least to me.

Thanks again.   By the way, I'm awaiting the dust cover I'm having made.     




Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: gagamut on 3 May 2011, 01:37 pm
Hi Jim,i think you can handle how to set up the WT reference(it's not hard to set up),and trust your ears.

Sam
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: SteveFord on 18 Aug 2012, 12:56 am
It's 100,000 cst silicone for the arm cup and Mobil 1 5/30 (or similar) for the platter.
You can get the silicone goo on eBay for a couple of bucks a bottle - get two and you'll have extra.
You can get the goo out with a few paper towels.
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: drubin on 26 Oct 2012, 08:21 pm
Introducing myself now that I have finally purchased an Amadeus (used).  I hope to set it up in the next week or so and then probably sell my Linn LP-12.

Dan
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: watercourse on 19 Feb 2013, 04:48 am
Happy owner of a new Simplex! Well, since about December. Great table. Saving up for the DPS later this year.
Wilson
Title: WTT Silicone
Post by: remposs on 21 Sep 2016, 02:33 am
I just dug my WTT out and decided to get it going again. I bought this WTT in 1987, so I assume it was the first edition, simply known as The Well Tempered Table. I see the silicone has either leaked out of the spindle and the tonearm cup and the table is covered with oily residue. The belt is also broken. How do I go about getting two new syringes of the silicone lubricant? I seem to recall they one for the spindle was lighter in viscosity than the heavier gel used in the tonearm cup. Also, where to buy a new belt?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: beta14ok on 26 Nov 2016, 03:03 pm
^ for Remposs: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=145693.0

Welcome. You might wanna post your WTT refresh in a new thread....let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: mloutfie on 5 Aug 2017, 03:47 am
Hi All, wonder if this thread is still active. I'm a new WTT classic owner
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: mgsboedmisodpc2 on 19 Aug 2017, 10:06 pm
Welcome WTT classic owner. is your motor square or round
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: Backwell on 9 Oct 2017, 10:24 pm
Hi All, wonder if this thread is still active. I'm a new WTT classic owner
Hi , is anyone still here or has the party moved on somewhere else? Just thought I'd say hello, I'm another happy WTL turntable owner. Amadeus GTA with a Transfiguration Orpheus cartridge, I bought the deck second hand from a dealer nearly five years ago, picked up the cart a year later. I've just fitted a LTD arm wand , a very worthwhile upgrade, huge improvement in SQ.
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: /mp on 10 Oct 2017, 03:36 pm
Hi All, wonder if this thread is still active.

+1
Title: Re: Welcome
Post by: whosyurdaddy on 13 Apr 2021, 10:14 am
    Hey everyone I wanted to stop and introduce myself as I'm waiting on my Amadeus GTA to arrive and I'm looking forward to the set up and listening . Looks like there is a great deal of info here which I'm sure will be helpful .