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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => The HiRez Music Circle => Topic started by: Russtafarian on 27 Mar 2013, 10:45 pm
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It's here!
http://www.stereophile.com/content/news-flash-oppo-now-plays-dsd-files (http://www.stereophile.com/content/news-flash-oppo-now-plays-dsd-files)
I'll be trying this with my 103 asap.
Russ
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Just read the Stereophile report. Let us know how it works out. Don't have either player yet as I plan to move early next year but that's certainly a feature that may spur me to buy more than one player for the new place.
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As reported earlier, the DSD file support (I recommend DSF, as usual) is only via local USB drives, not asynch USB (which is a capability of the 105, but not for this unfortunately). But here is the big question:
In what way will these files sound that much better than the discs that can be played in these Oppos all along. I mean, it's great to have DSD playback but like any PCM computer playback...the beauty is being able to send the hirez content to higher end DACS. But in this case, the DAC is the same one you are using for the discs you just ripped!! Of course hdd playback brings browsing and playlisty-like convenience, but not that much, being that the GUI is simply your video monitor.
So, net/net...Russ...tell us how much better the files sound than the disc. This will be a most telling a/b cuz for the first time the only difference is file vs disc (i.e same DAC in the player).
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For me, eventually, if this is viable, it may make sense to get the 105 for a secondary system I may use a bit given it has a decent DAC and I can have the convenience of the files and the interface. Not thinking it's something that is going to be a main system solution. If I need a universal player for a system somewhere and have the files, it makes it easier to buy it and a hard drive for convenience.
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I just read the Stereophile report and downloaded the firmware onto a USB. I'll be installing it on my BDP-103 later tonight and trying it out. I don't expect it to sound better than DSD through my TEAC UD-501, especially as that plays DSD 128/5.6 files. Does anyone know if the Oppo will be able to play those also, or just DSD 64/2.8?
In any case, the fact that the new firmware supports multi-channel dsd playback is also significant I think. There has not been a way to do this with my external Teac dsd dac and I lack the capacity to do what Ted did with the multiple Myteks. So I look at this as an affordable way to playback dsd downloads (not just discs) in multi-channel format.
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In any case, the fact that the new firmware supports multi-channel dsd playback is also significant I think. There has not been a way to do this with my external Teac dsd dac and I lack the capacity to do what Ted did with the multiple Myteks. So I look at this as an affordable way to playback dsd downloads (not just discs) in multi-channel format.
Yeah, I think that this is the coolest aspect of this news as well... along with the fact that the 103 is $500!!
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O.K., I updated the firmware on my BDP-103 and spent some time goofing around with DSD playback from USB storage. It works, but before I get into sound quality observations, there are a couple configuration/navigation issues to mention.
Updating to the new beta test firmware requires downloading the file from Oppo’s website to a USB drive and connecting the USB drive to the Oppo player. The network firmware update feature will not install the beta test firmware.
Unlike dropping a disc in the tray and hitting play, file playback from USB storage requires the remote and a monitor to navigate the menus. My 103 is in a music only system so I have no incentive to buy and connect an HDMI monitor/TV of any size. I use an old 8” TFT screen connected to the “diagnostic” composite video output. This output doesn’t show video but it allows me to navigate the menus.
When playing DSD files or SACD discs, the Oppo’s volume control DOES NOT work. It operates like a mute control; 0 is off and 1 through 100 is full level. The volume control does work if SACD/DSD output is changed to PCM. But if you are thinking of connecting the Oppo directly to an amp to play DSD, forget it. You have to use a preamp or some other volume control solution.
Metadata for DSD files is limited to folder and file names. The metadata embedded in my DSF files was not displayed by the Oppo’s playback menus. Metadata for SACD discs is more complete since the Oppo hits the Gracenotes metadatabase when a disc is inserted. No cover art is displayed for either files or discs. The HDMI video output might be a different story, but I have no way to check that.
To test out DSD file playback from USB storage I loaded stereo DSF files to a USB flash drive and plugged it into the front panel USB port. I chose two SACDs that have served as reference discs for many years: Forget About It by Alison Krauss and French Piano Trios by The Floristan Trio. I compared disc playback to file playback on the 103. I also compared Oppo DSD playback to Jriver/Benchmark DAC2 DSD playback.
Yes, DSD file playback does sound better than SACD disc playback on the Oppo, but both sound really good. The difference isn’t night and day huge, but it is significant. Compared to DSD file playback, the SACD sounds a bit truncated in terms of soundstage size and dimensionality. Highs are not as extended and airy and instrument/vocal textures aren’t as fleshed out.
The overall character of the 103 remained consistent between discs and files. The 103 (after some modest modifications) has a round, pleasant, presentation that gives up some resolution and transparency for organic flow. Bass is a bit light and loose, and the upper midrange/lower treble is slightly muted. But overall, it’s a fun, easy player to listen to. A few months ago when the Benchmark DAC2 was still breaking in, the Oppo was so much more enjoyable to listen to, that I was seriously second guessing my decision to buy the DAC2. Now that the DAC2 has settled in, it is clearly the superior digital source.
Playing back the same DSF files through Jriver and the DAC2 opens up the size and spatial dimensionality of the soundstage. Instrument and vocal character and textures are more finely delineated. The overall presentation does a better job of inviting me into the musical experience that the artist is creating. The Oppo is really good, but the DAC2 is much better.
So my initial conclusion is that DSD file playback on the Oppo BDP-103 does sound better than playback of the source SACD. The SACD still sound great, but playing the DSD file provides a nice step forward in sound quality. If someone is willing to live with navigation and metadata limitations, this is a simpler, lower cost alternative to doing the whole computer audio/USB DAC thing. That said, my Jriver/Benchmark DAC2 setup with Jremote Ipod control is superior in every significant way: navigation ease, metadata access, and most importantly, sound quality.
I haven’t played with multi-channel yet; that will require a little more setup and configuration. I’ll compare DSF files to SACD discs as I did before. I’ll also compare DSD multi-channel file playback to my music server multi-channel setup: Foobar controlling and transcoding DSD to 24/88 PCM and sending it to the Oppo via HDMI. That should be interesting.
Russ
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Well it works! It appears to be limited to DSD 64/2.8 MHz files at this time, as I couldn't play DSD 128/5.6 MHz files. Below is a screen shot I took of the BDP-103 playing back a DSD.dff file. Unfortunately, the metadata doesn't appear to be recognized by the Oppo as with SACD's, although I don't have much album art in my DSD files yet as I have such limited DSD content. I also don't have my SACDs ripped to DSD yet, so I can't compare disc playback to USB playback of the same material. I know that's not very helpful. :duh:
However, I can say the Oppo 103 plays DSD files downloaded to a USB very well. Compared to SACD playback I would give the edge to the DSD files, although once again, it's hard to tell with differnet material. Most of my SACDs are rock and most of DSD downloads are of the "audiophile" variety, emphasizing acoustic, vocals, classical and jazz.
What I could compare directly are the same DSD downloads played through the Oppo and via my laptop using foobar2000 into my TEAC UD-501 dac. To me the Oppo does not sound better than playback through my laptop (i5 w/8GB RAM Win 7x64) via USB to the TEAC. There is a slight "digitalness" or slightly artificial aspect to the sound from the Oppo that is totally absent when the same DSD files are played through the TEAC and which only becomes apparent to me when directly comparing the two back to back. I could also hear the same difference between SACD playback on the Oppo and DSD direct through the TEAC, albeit with different material. I assume that is just the difference between the Cirrus Logic chipset in the Oppo compared to the BurrBrown PCM1795 in the TEAC, but it could be the filters in the TEAC as well. It would be interesting to hear what someone who has the BDP-105 thinks of DSD through the highly touted ESS SABRE32 Reference DAC chips (ES9018) in the 105.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=77852)
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Great post Russ. I must have been typing my observations when you posted because I didn't see it before I posted. I agree with you about the Oppo 103 being a very enjoyable player and this is a good way to be able to check out DSD on the cheap, especially if you already own the Oppo. Eventually, I am sure Oppo and others will fix the metadata and other issues and we will see players that enable direct asynch usb playback. For now, however, computer playback through a separate DAC is just far and away more convenient for the reasons you mention and sounds better too, at least in my set up. What I am really interested in and where the Oppo may change the calculus is multi-channel DSD playback, which until now has been virtually impossible. I don't have any multi-channel dsd downloads (are there any?) and my SACDs aren't ripped to dsd yet, so I can't try multi-channel myself yet, but I look forward to your comments on it.
I haven’t played with multi-channel yet; that will require a little more setup and configuration. I’ll compare DSF files to SACD discs as I did before. I’ll also compare DSD multi-channel file playback to my music server multi-channel setup: Foobar controlling and transcoding DSD to 24/88 PCM and sending it to the Oppo via HDMI. That should be interesting.
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Thanks gentleman! great first impressions. it doesn;t surprise me at all that the GUI is an issue (as I stated earlier) as well as the metadata (a pet peeve of mine; I hate ISOs and DFF for that reason). It didn't even dawn on my the DSD volume issue! That means you'll need an analog multichannel preamp like I;m using with my stacked Myteks to do pure native DSD 5.1 channel trims. And forget about distance/delay settings.
All in all a nice step forward for DSD downloads vendors. And for those who own an Oppo 103 or 105 connected to video. But even budget DACs like the TEAC (and of course more advanced like the B-mark DAC2) seem to be outperforming this solution, so we'll have to see what the 105 owners come back with.
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Ted,
Do you know where I can find downloadable multi-channel DSD? I thought maybe Channel Classics but didn't see any there. :scratch: edit: Nevermind, I found some on Channel Classics.
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Yes, I am looking forward to the 105 reports. And maybe a Modwright owner will also chime in...
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Great news and 'review', Russ and Airborn. Have you tried taking the signal from the digital out to a DAC? I wonder what you'll get. I know you can't get digital signal from SACDs, but what if the input is a DSD file.
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But here is the big question:
In what way will these files sound that much better than the discs that can be played in these Oppos all along. I mean, it's great to have DSD playback but like any PCM computer playback...the beauty is being able to send the hirez content to higher end DACS. But in this case, the DAC is the same one you are using for the discs you just ripped!!
So, net/net...Russ...tell us how much better the files sound than the disc. This will be a most telling a/b cuz for the first time the only difference is file vs disc (i.e same DAC in the player).
This has puzzled me for a long time. Are there not SACD players with good, and well-implemented, DAC chipsets and good output stages? I've been assuming that a large part of the interest in DSD via computer is to take the spinning disc out of the picture. Otherwise I would have guessed the way forward was to just get a better SACD player, as they continue to evolve, for what is for most of us still a small fraction of our music libraries.
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Removing the spinning disc is only one aspect of computer audio. Using a dedicated stand alone much higher quality (as high as you can afford) higher-end DAC that has been optimized for USB (or pick your input) playback is the biggest reason, and certainly convenient chair-based full library browsing and uninterrupted library playback, in any order, is a big draw.
So while this Oppo commitment to file-based DSD in both 2 channel and multichannel form is a big deal, it is not groundbreaking...as these players have been able to do this for a long time....they just happened to have needed the disc. So my three tenets of computer audio are addressed only fractionally (get rid of spinning disc, provide a semblance of browsing).
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Have you tried taking the signal from the digital out to a DAC? I wonder what you'll get. I know you can't get digital signal from SACDs, but what if the input is a DSD file.
I verified that the Oppo 103/105 does not output any digital signal from SPDIF when playing a SACD or a DSD file.
Russ
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I read somewhere that Oppo's SACD spinning is not pure DSD playback (convert to PCM?) in the first place, as compared to those expensive transport + DAC units from EMM Labs, Esoteric, MSB, dCs, etc.
If that's true, does this have any bearing on DSD file playback by Oppo versus other DSD DACs' ?
Thanks.
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I read somewhere that Oppo's SACD spinning is not pure DSD playback (convert to PCM?) in the first place, as compared to those expensive transport + DAC units from EMM Labs, Esoteric, MSB, dCs, etc.
If that's true, does this have any bearing on DSD file playback by Oppo versus other DSD DACs' ?
Thanks.
The review at HiFI+ (UK, I think that was the name) incorrectly had the Oppo set for PCM and was using the wrong HDMi output. It was a case of ignorance; not reading the manual. The Oppo is SABRE chip-bases like many DSD-capable DAC; it plays back DSD in native format if set to do so (what happens inside any of these DACs is for the more technical...DSD actually becomes 5 bit, etc.....but that's not the issue). The difference in sonic goodness from playback has much more to do with quality of aprts (i.,e price) and design of the analog stage and power supplies. Of course a $7k-15k playback setup will likely outdo a $500 Oppo!
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Of course a $7k-15k playback setup will likely outdo a $500 Oppo!
That's crazy talk Ted. The Oppo is a "Giant Killer"!!!! Oh the unfettered enthusiasm for some gear...
Not that Oppos don't sound great, but to expect an Oppo to beat big dollar stuff (or likely even a stand-alone DAC at the same price point) is wishful thinking, IME.
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I will post this on my "free DSD samples" sticky too, but for those with the Oppo (or stacked Myteks :) ) the Nordic label 2L has taken their wonderful DXD-based surround files and converted them to DSD (for their SACD releases, mainly). There are now 10 free tracks of multichannel DFF on their test bench website. Morten claims they did it in response to the Oppo announcement...so it's working. :)
http://www.2l.no/hires/
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The review at HiFI+ (UK, I think that was the name) incorrectly had the Oppo set for PCM and was using the wrong HDMi output. It was a case of ignorance; not reading the manual. The Oppo is SABRE chip-bases like many DSD-capable DAC; it plays back DSD in native format if set to do so (what happens inside any of these DACs is for the more technical...DSD actually becomes 5 bit, etc.....but that's not the issue). The difference in sonic goodness from playback has much more to do with quality of aprts (i.,e price) and design of the analog stage and power supplies. Of course a $7k-15k playback setup will likely outdo a $500 Oppo!
Thanks, Ted.
Well, I'm still enjoying SACD playbacks from my MWI Oppo 95 Tube Mod via analogue XLR outputs. Glad to be confirmed that Oppo's 95 & 105 internal DACs (and perhaps all universal players that can play SACDs) can play DSD in native format.
Just noticed from the discussions in the link below, however, that given my current settings, SACD output: DSD, and HDMI Audio: Auto, I should not turn on my TV. If it's turned on, I should not select TV to display the particular HDMI input that is connected to the Oppo. Otherwise, the SACD playback would show "PCM" (even when Oppo's HDMI1 is set as the primary video output and "yes" in only video signal sending option).
If instead, it is set to - HDMI Audio: Off (while SACD output: DSD) then no such troubles.
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/oppo-bdp-95-audiophile-universal-blu-ray-sacd-dvd-a-player-part-2.268591/page-4
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Here’s an update on playing multi-channel DSD files on my Oppo BDP-103.
My current setup for playing multi-channel DSD (and FLAC) files uses Foobar to play and convert the files to 24/88 PCM, then send them to the BDP-103 via HDMI. With Apple Remote/Ipod Touch control over Foobar, I can easily browse, search, scroll, through the files and see metadata and cover art. The setup works smoothly, sounds pretty good and serves as my point of reference for evaluating direct DSD playback on the Oppo. I did try setting Foobar to play DSD through HDMI to the Oppo. It didn’t work.
I connected a 3TB USB drive with nearly 400 multi-channel DSD albums (ripped and extracted from my SACD collection) to the front input of the 103. I was able to access the folders and files through the menu system and play any file I selected. The sound quality differences between playing multi-channel SACDs and DSD files are the same as what I heard when comparing stereo discs and files, so I won’t go into any more detail on that.
Sound quality compared to the Foobar/PCM/HDMI setup (see above) is WOW much better! The level of resolution really steps up. Direct DSD sounds significantly more open, extended, and fast. Comparatively, PCM/HDMI sounds a bit blurred, muted and smoothed over. Elements in the mix that PCM/HDMI only hints at snap into focus with direct DSD. For example, with direct DSD I could discern for the first time the slightly smoky, gritty character of Susannah McCorkle’s voice as she sang “Waters of March”. And the transient percussive snap of the various drums on “Daraijin” from Kodo - Mondo Head was so intense that it kept my “startle” impulse on edge through the whole track.
This is a good news/bad news situation for me. DSD file playback on the 103 via USB drive clearly sounds better than my current Foobar/PCM/HDMI setup. That’s good! But the Oppo menu interface is so LAME compared to the Apple Remote interface for Foobar. That’s bad. To navigate to an album I have to click down, one by one, past each album folder to get to the one I want. With nearly 400 album folders, do you know how long it takes to get to Pink Floyd or Shostakovich? TOO long! There has got to be a way to improve Oppo’s interface for playing back music files.
I did run into a few other limitations and technical glitches. I don’t use a center channel speaker, and with the PCM/HDMI setup I set the Oppo to map the center channel signal to the left and right speakers. This is not an option when playing back direct DSD multi-channel files. With most mixes, not having the center channel doesn’t seem to make a big difference. But there are a handful of mixes, like James Taylor – Hourglass, where the main vocal just disappears from the mix. Oh well.
Occasionally, files will stop, start and/or stutter in the middle of playback. It didn’t happen often, and restarting the track usually fixed it, but it’s a definite mood killer to have that happen in the middle of a tune. Also, when I set the Oppo to output DSD as PCM, channel assignments for multi-channel DSD files get mixed up. The left rear & right rear channels get swapped with the center and LFE channels. The result is that center channel vocals play from the left rear, LFE gets lost in the right rear, and surround elements appear in the middle of the front sound stage. This is not a big deal since I’m not sure why someone would go to the trouble of playing back direct DSD only to convert it to PCM. I’m sure Oppo will fix this in future firmware updates.
Russ
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Russ,
Thanks for that. Yes, the GUI is the biggest hurdle right now, as is the DSP/mixing you need for your setup (or channel trims for those with various gains/efficiencies in their speaker setup). I am able to do all through jremote, but then I need a stack of three DACs and a USB hub, with cables, etc. :)
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I have not done this on the 103/105s but on the 95 here is some info that might be useful:
1. The front usb port does not sound anywhere near as good as the rear port. The rear port is located very close to the decoder chip whereas the front usb port has to go through extra cables and a long distance on the circuit board.
2. If you are using a usb thumb drive then all thumb drives sound different from each other. I had a thumb drive that had a plastic rattly housing on it. I had an identical one and removed its plastic housing, removed the led on it, and burned it on the computer using damping material to hold it tight into the socket. When I plugged it into the back of the Oppo I used the same EAR SD40AL damping material to hold the modded usb into the socket. It sounded way, way, way better than the stock unmodified usb. I told this info to someone who was using the front usb jack and he did not want to believe any thing I said......but he finally decided to listen and agreed 100%. He not only said the rear port sounded better but that his rubber encased usb stick sounded rubbery and that his all steel one sounded steely. All my listening was using a 24/192 download of Tea for the Tillerman. I would describe the sound thus: the front usb port using the stock usb stick sounded like a 1960 transisitor radio (horrible). The rear usb post using the stock usb stick sounded like a 1960 tube radio (listenable). The modified and damped usb stick in the rear sounded like really good 16/44. I figured with more tweaking that it would have sounded like 24/192 but never did more.
3. What I did not try was treating the contact pins on the usb stick and I never tried other usb sticks. There are only four pins and you could use the silver-gold contact enhancement on them without shorting and I also wanted to try damping the usb receiver inside the player.
4. If I was using a usb cable then I would treat the contact pins and use the EAR material to damp the usb connection. I bet this would give better sound.
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He not only said the rear port sounded better but that his rubber encased usb stick sounded rubbery and that his all steel one sounded steely.
Well, there you have it. All USB sticks for audio should obviously be made of silk. :wink:
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Uh-oh, another chance for one of the snake oil audiophool vendors to offer a hyper-expensive mod :duh:
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Let's keep this thread on topic please.
Rick offers some tweaking suggestions that are relevant to playing DSD files on the Oppo. That's cool. I reconnected my USB drive to the rear connector on the 103 based on his suggestion. I haven't taken the time to listen and compare front vs. back USB connections, but I will soon. If I hear a difference, I'll report back.
Russ
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Russ, I assume you heard no difference between front and back USB ports.
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Something new to report on Oppo DSD playback. Oppo just released their media remote app for ipod/iphone and android phones/tablets. The ipad version has been out for a while, but not having one, I wasn't able to try the media app... until now.
While file navigation still doesn't compete with tightly integrated programs & apps like Jriver/Jremote, the app makes it much easier to search, select and play storage-attached files on the Oppo. This is a nice step forward for those of us who want to use the Oppo to play native DSD (especially multi-channel) music files.
It also makes it easier to set up and control a simple music server without messing with a computer or USB DAC. Attach a USB drive with music files to a current Oppo player. Set up the player and media app on a home network and start listening to your music files with tablet/phone playback control.
If you have a Oppo BDP-103 or BDP-105, it's worth checking out. It does require the latest firmware update to work.
Russ
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Thanks for the update on the Oppo players. At some point I will be getting one for a spare room and was looking forward to something better for navigation for DSD and other files.
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Something new to report on Oppo DSD playback. Oppo just released their media remote app for ipod/iphone and android phones/tablets. The ipad version has been out for a while, but not having one, I wasn't able to try the media app... until now.
While file navigation still doesn't compete with tightly integrated programs & apps like Jriver/Jremote, the app makes it much easier to search, select and play storage-attached files on the Oppo. This is a nice step forward for those of us who want to use the Oppo to play native DSD (especially multi-channel) music files.
It also makes it easier to set up and control a simple music server without messing with a computer or USB DAC. Attach a USB drive with music files to a current Oppo player. Set up the player and media app on a home network and start listening to your music files with tablet/phone playback control.
If you have a Oppo BDP-103 or BDP-105, it's worth checking out. It does require the latest firmware update to work.
Russ
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BTW, I have not done the update to the latest firmware on my 103 but it still works, what file is playing doesn't read correctly but all of the browsing, playing and other controls work. Laid out well. Nice that I was able to do this on an Android phone.
Best,
Ed
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Oppo's 105D http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-105/blu-ray-BDP-105D-Overview.aspx (http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-105/blu-ray-BDP-105D-Overview.aspx) brings an updated USB DAC with support of DSD64 and DSD128.
By bypassing the low fidelity, poor quality DAC of traditional computer soundcards, the BDP-105D turns any computer into a high performing multi-media source by converting digital audio to analog through the ESS Sabre32 Reference DAC. The BDP-105D supports DSD audio in standard rate (DSD64) or double rate (DSD128 or DSD 2x) via its new USB DAC input. If your computer can play it, the BDP-105D can convert it to analog.
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Great news - may have to re-think what I want to do. I was just going to attach a hard drive to a 103 in a spare room but the extra capability of the new 105 is worthy of at least consideration
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'bout time. I have a friend that just bought a 105 and will be seriously pissed that he just missed out on DSD DAC capability. Oh well.
I'll bet orders for the Modwright version will go through the roof!
Russ
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'bout time. I have a friend that just bought a 105 and will be seriously pissed that he just missed out on DSD DAC capability. Oh well.
I'll bet orders for the Modwright version will go through the roof!
Russ
Dan has posted about his DAC and modding a new 105 will be just over 60% of the selling price of his new DAC and you have a player as well. Should be interesting.
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'bout time. I have a friend that just bought a 105 and will be seriously pissed that he just missed out on DSD DAC capability. Oh well.
I'll bet orders for the Modwright version will go through the roof!
Russ
Supposedly there will be a hardware update available for the 105. That's from a post by Sam S (an Oppo beta tester) at the SH Forums.
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I thought the 105 was already DSD capable?
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I thought the 105 was already DSD capable?
Not through the USB "B" input, only through the "A" - i.e. flash drive or external hard drive, not the music server input.
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Gocha
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Not through the USB "B" input, only through the "A" - i.e. flash drive or external hard drive, not the music server input.
so the 105D supports native multi channel DSD through the USB "B" input...so I could use say Jriver MC to send the Oppo DSD natively to be decoded by the Oppo's DAC's?
If so, :banana piano: :beer: :violin: :drums: :guitar: :bounce: this is Suhweet!
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This is might be great news, of course, but WHERE, specifically in the news release or website are you guys finding this exact upgrade spec...that the Oppo will now do multichannel DSD (and DSD128) from a pc or MAC? I read the news as a new video upsampler, asynch DAC input (but multichannel words were missing) and DSD128 support.
Edit: in fact, in the lowest part of the product page it does specify the USB asynch input, and it is specifically 2 channel. This is not a multichannel computer audio solution, but indeed a new legitimate addition to the now-crowded computer audio 2 channel DSD list.
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^^shucks
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Well I got this off of the AVS Forum, not exactly the perfect solution, BUT it will play multichannel DSD files via:
"However you can play multi-channel DSD 64 files from a hard drive attached to the regular USB ports, or via the network from an SMB server."
The Async USB (B) port is stereo only.
From Bob Pariseau - Anthem dude.
Mark
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Mark,
Wasn't that always the case?
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Yep for mutichannel, just wanted to clarify that it can be done, just not via Async USB.
I was trying to confirm no mutichannel via Async USB from the Beta guys over at AVS
Mark
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The USB DAC from the "normal" Oppo 105 (still) doesn' t accept DSD/DoP. The USB DAC from the new Oppo 105D does (stereo only).
DSD Playback (stereo and multichannel) via network or attached USB drive is possible since last April/May.
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Hello;
I figured this would be the best thread to pose this question even though there has been no activity for more than thirty days.
I recently purchased an Oppo-BDP 105 and was excited about being able to playback DSD files from a USB flash drive.
I purchased downloaded and transferred an album of DFF files from Prostudiomasters, Holly Cole-Girl Talk to a 64GB Lexar USB flash drive and inserted it into the front USB port of my 105. It recognized the drive right away and allowed me to playback the files on the drive but the Oppo indicated that it was converting the DFF file to PCM. I read the post earlier in this thread abut turning the HDMI Audio to off in the set-up menu, which I did, but it still shows that the files are being converted to PCM.
Anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong. I would like the DFF files on the flash drive to be converted directly to analogue by the 105.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Nevermind. As soon as I posted this, it struck me to see which HDMI output I was using for video and wouldn't you know it I was using HDMI 2. Duh!! I switched over to HDMI 1 and all is solved. Base of palm slams forehead, ouch!