BDP-2 Digital Player

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #420 on:** 17 Jul 2013, 03:50 am »

I'm thinking a wireless bridge connected to the Bryston ethernet and liking to my home network might be better

Rpl77 · « **Reply #421 on:** 19 Jul 2013, 12:20 am »

Which bridge(s) are you considering?

unincognito · « **Reply #422 on:** 23 Jul 2013, 01:06 am »

Quote from: keithjacksontucson on 17 Jul 2013, 03:49 am

yes , it looks more like a rectangle to me. But when the player is loaded, I select a song on the Bryston Max menu and the song shows on the Bryston sreen , but it will not play
Songs will play with the player menu after the player is fully loaded, but to get the songs to play through using the Bryston Max menu, I have to un plug the hard drives and plug them back in

Hi Kieth,

Which version of the firmware are you running?

Cheers,
Chris

Grit · « **Reply #423 on:** 26 Jul 2013, 05:25 am »

Quote from: Grit on 5 Jun 2013, 04:40 am

I have two drives connected to by BDP-2. One is an OCZ Vector 256GB SSD (NTFS), one of the fastest in production today. I also have a 16GB USB 3.0 thumb drive (VFAT) connected (trying to determine if/what the scratch drive will do).

Under the settings, I can benchmark both drives. The OCZ drive comes back at 8.9MB/sec. The thumb drive comes back at 57MB/sec.

The SSD should run circles around the USB thumb drive. I have the 512BG version of that same SSD in my desktop computer, and it runs at a good 500+ MB/sec.

I copied a few new CD rips over to the SSD via Windows, and sure enough, the data rate is about 7-8MB/sec. I copied the same files over to my Windows Home Server 2011 machine, where the hard drives are all Western Digital Cavier Red drives, and the throughput was over 50MB/sec. I'm a little frustrated that I invested in a faster SSD only to find out that the throughput is about 1/10th of what it should be over my network, and that its outpaced by a $20 USB thumb drive.

Whats causing the dramatic difference?

I never did hear any feedback about this... is it something that is being addressed in a firmware update?

- Garrett

adprom · « **Reply #424 on:** 26 Jul 2013, 12:41 pm »

Quote from: Grit on 5 Jun 2013, 04:40 am

Whats causing the dramatic difference?

To be honest, an SSD in a the BDP-2 is probably a waste of time. You will get no extra benefit except no moving parts. Even a green magnetic drive will easily exceed the throughput of the BDP which has somewhat limited processing power.

Therefore the network performance to and from the ssd is limited by the processing power of the BDP-2 rather than the interface or core speed of any drive connected.

It isn't really an issue as even a 192KHz lossless file is unlikely to require more than 1MB/s where it is loaded into memory, and then from there it is decoded and output as a PCM signal (i.e. your source whether a drive, network source, USB is irrelevant).

Have an 8 bay QNAP NAS that can easily sustain 100+MB/s transfers and it only benchmarks on the BDP-2 at 9MB/s.

unincognito · « **Reply #425 on:** 26 Jul 2013, 04:41 pm »

Quote from: Grit on 26 Jul 2013, 05:25 am

I never did hear any feedback about this... is it something that is being addressed in a firmware update?

- Garrett

Hi Garrett,

Have you tried formatting the drive to use Fat32 instead of NTFS? That is a rather slow result.

Cheers,
Chris

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #426 on:** 28 Jul 2013, 10:27 pm »

Chris , this is Keith, back from vacation.
I have a Toshiba Canvio external hard drive plugged into the back usb port
and the Bryston Thumb Drive in the front
The player does not recognize the back drives when turned on
and after it has completed uploading
when I switch and put the thumb drive in the back port
the player recognizes the front still but not the back usb
drives.
I have to unplug the Thumb drive just like the external hard drive and plug
it back in in order for the player to play from the front panel controls
or from the Bryston Max

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #427 on:** 28 Jul 2013, 10:44 pm »

Sorry Chris. The firmware I'm running is S1.60 2012-12-12

Keith

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #428 on:** 28 Jul 2013, 11:37 pm »

Ok , upon further experimentation.
It appears that upon start up of the player ,
the Toshiba drive is not fully recognized from the back USB ports
But it does recognize the hard drive if it's plugged into
the front USB ports.

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #429 on:** 29 Jul 2013, 12:17 am »

after all that , it appears that the Toshiba Canvio hard drive needed a software update
The back USB ports are recognizing the hard drives now.

Once again, the BDP-2 and BDA-2 combination has revolutionized my serious listening

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #430 on:** 29 Jul 2013, 02:24 am »

wrong again
still not recognizing the Toshiba
frustrating, I thought I had it figured out

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #431 on:** 30 Jul 2013, 01:37 am »

Chris , since I'm having trouble with my Toshiba Canvio drives
what external hard drive(s) would you recommend

Keith

unincognito · « **Reply #432 on:** 30 Jul 2013, 01:55 am »

Hi Kieth,

Sorry for the long delay, my first re emendation would be to update to theatres firmware. We have made some changes to the customization and startup options. There is video detailing how to update the firmware on our instructional Fidel's section near the bottom. Once your running s1.73, go into settings, MPD, check update MPD at startup. If you get stuck anywhere might be best to email me at crice@bryston.com (feel free to post anything in our email correspondence).

Cheers,
Chris

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #433 on:** 1 Aug 2013, 04:03 am »

I do not see a S173 firmware update on the bryston site only s160

Grit · « **Reply #434 on:** 1 Aug 2013, 07:36 am »

I noticed that too. But, if you use the "update" button from the main page of the BDP's web interface, it should automatically update (if you are connected to the internet).

RLL1 · « **Reply #435 on:** 1 Aug 2013, 03:06 pm »

Quote from: keithjacksontucson on 1 Aug 2013, 04:03 am

I do not see a S173 firmware update on the bryston site only s160

S160 is the last version of the firmware that requires the manual update. Once you have that, you can use the automatic update feature. There is a video on the "Instructional Video" thread that explains the procedure.

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #436 on:** 2 Aug 2013, 01:20 am »

got it finally
thanks

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #437 on:** 3 Aug 2013, 05:14 am »

one more question
why does the IP address of the player change when
I plug the Ethernet connection into my PC for updates and again when I plug
in a wireless bridge

adprom · « **Reply #438 on:** 4 Aug 2013, 04:52 pm »

Quote from: keithjacksontucson on 3 Aug 2013, 05:14 am

one more question
why does the IP address of the player change when
I plug the Ethernet connection into my PC for updates and again when I plug
in a wireless bridge

Depends how you have your wireless bridge setup... The router could be seeing the mac address of the bridge and thus assigning a different address. The DHCP server in the router should remember in short term, in its table mac/ip allocations.

Alternatively, most routers will allow you to fix certain mac addresses to a fixed IP address so a device always gets assigned the same IP. Lastly, you can use a static IP on the device itself - but DHCP is more effective and easier to manage. No real benefits for most people by doing that. The only time static IPs are used is for the DHCP server itself, or servers which need to maintain an IP address even if no DHCP server is available for some reason.

keithjacksontucson · « **Reply #439 on:** 4 Aug 2013, 06:58 pm »

is there any reason a firmware update to S1.73 would change the sound?
Or is that my imagination?